Tonight is a perfect example

Todd4State

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of why the SEC should go back to the Sat. double headers.

Here's what my SEC schedule would be for baseball in a typical weekend:

Friday night at 6:30-7:00 start time. Give people a chance to get to the game after work.

Saturday Game 1 starts between 1-2, play a nine-inning game.

Saturday Game 2 starts between 6:00-7:00, again a nine-inning game.

That gives you Sunday to play a make-up game in case of rain or whatever.

My schedule gives everyone a chance to go to every game- I would be willing to bet that the Sunday game lags at every school including the schools that draw well in the SEC. By doing this, people could very easily go watch the Friday game, stay the night and then go to likely both games on Sat. Instead of basically choosing either Fri or Sat for the most part. This plan would get more people to go to that third game, which would make more money for the schools. The reason that they went to the schedule that we have now was because they used to play seven inning double headers, and a lot of people complained that you couldn't condition your staff for the regionals where you have to play nine regardless, and your shorting everyone four innings every weekend in a game that is designed for nine innings. My plan allows for nine innings and also allows plenty of time to play a game with a rest break for everyone in between. I'm giving people at least 4-5 hours to play a game. That should be plenty of time normally.

Honestly, it's just dumb to play Sunday games in a place called the Bible Belt. Most people here are going to go to church over a baseball game, especially if they've been to two already. Not to mention that there is the curfew rule that seems to vary from weekend to weekend and from team to team and even the umpires are lenient about it. Not to mention it's a dumb rule. If you play baseball, you want to settle it on the field, even if it takes until midnight. Especially if there's a title on the line. If you play two games on Saturday, that gives the teams Sat night and all day Sunday to travel. That's plenty of time in the SEC, and my schedule gives the players even more time to study- and go to church if they wish.

If the SEC thought about it for a minute, they could very easily have a schedule where they make more money, pass off that they care about academics, and settle games on the field, and is more fan friendly.
 

State82

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was ditch the Saturday double header. I do agree that the double header should be two 9 inning affairs, but they should have left the Saturday twinbill in place.
 

futaba.79

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and it would save money too. Sunday TV could play a role, but the SEC could always grant exceptions.

I'd vote for your plan if I were an AD.
 

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Or was he really the driving force behind going away from DH's on Sat? I ask because I could seriously see him doing that. He may have thought that our fans would show up on Sunday regardless, and I know at the time he and Bertman had most of the clout as far as SEC baseball is concerned.
 

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Todd4State said:
Or was he really the driving force behind going away from DH's on Sat? I ask because I could seriously see him doing that. He may have thought that our fans would show up on Sunday regardless, and I know at the time he and Bertman had most of the clout as far as SEC baseball is concerned.
I was thinking the same thing. For all of Polk's many faults, I wasn't aware that he was against the two games on Saturday.
 

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Their reasoning was that baseball is a "one 9-inning game a day" sport. In fact, the SEC formatwas largely adopted nationally due to their efforts.
 

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Polk was against the 3 day series. He knew it would hurt Msu baseball attendence and help the bigger schools such as Lsu. The SEC did this to help the other schools with ticket sells, which it did for them but has really hurt us as for as crowds. Overall it helped the SEC but it hurt Msu.
 

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basedog said:
Polk was against the 3 day series. He knew it would hurt Msu baseball attendence and help the bigger schools such as Lsu. The SEC did this to help the other schools with ticket sells, which it did for them but has really hurt us as for as crowds. Overall it helped the SEC but it hurt Msu.

This is the right answer. Polk was absolutely against the 3 day series for the reasons stated above. Some people on here are lunatics when it comes to Polk. I agree the guy lost his **** and went off the reservation at the end but he did a hell of a lot for State and college baseball.

Not every negative that has taken place with our baseball team can be blamed on him.
 

basedog

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to Ron Polk. In 93 or 94 when he said he was burned out and didn't want to fight the Ncaa's he just seemed to give up and lost his drive. I suppose he got old real quick and mainly let his ego take over what was best for Msu and himself. I use to say RP was the best coach ever at Msu with Babe being second and McKeen third, but he killed my theory and now I rate him a little lower. I like many are very grateful for what he did for college baseball and Msu, but I have had a very hard time forgiving him for being lazy and thinking he was bigger than Mississippi State University! Btw, as coaching baseball goes, Paul Gregory was a much better x and o coach! What a gentleman and a great man, everyone loved Paul Gregory and believe me he was well respected all over the country.
 

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I thought it was well known he was against the Sat DH.



Let's just say if he had been for the Sat DH at that time we well may still be having those great DH's.
 

basedog

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But they use to play 9 and 7 DH's. Polk wanted two 9's and not three days of SEC play.
 

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He was good enough to win on his own for awhile, but his lack of ability to adjust to current recruiting tactics and his insistance on furthering things that were important to him- be it trying to abolish lottery scholarships, Mississippi JUCO baseball, or his camp. Also, his insistance to stay with Russ McNickle as a pitching coach killed him as well. We were basically putting together "nice teams" with one or two good position guys like Conner Powers and one or two good pitchers like Aaron Weatherford, and I think Matt Lea would have been really good had he stayed healthy. With McNickle ruining the pitching staff, we couldn't outslug teams, especially with the station to station style we were playing.

I don't totally blame him. "We" were the ones begging him to come back when he didn't want him to be here. I put "We" in parenthesis because there were a few MSU people with a brain that understood that we could get another good coach and move on- like me. But most people either wanted him back, or didn't really want him back but played it off by trying to be positive about it at the time. I'm not talking about anyone on here, for the record. When you have people begging you to come back, what are you supposed to do? Say, "No, I think I'll go hang out at UAB." With us begging him to come back twice, it's no wonder the guy felt like he could do whatever he wanted.
 

basedog

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recruiting tactics and his passion for bitching about the lotteries and Ncaa. But what is hard to understand is he had nothing elese to do but be involved with baseball. With no wife or kids you would think he would have adjusted to the game of recruiting and all of the other stuff! I do think after we took our stadium to another level in 86, the other SEC teams decided to go forward and put money into their programs with better stadiums and better coaches. It makes you wonder or me wonder that Polk was really just an average coach that competed against poor competition for a long time. Also, the SEC got much better when Ark and Sc came into the league as they had more tradition than all of the other SEC teams.