Too soon to list candidate for new OC?

[18IsTheMan]

Jerry Neuheisel set the CFB world afire with the way his offense sliced and diced the PSU defense.

He’s a career UCLA guy and doesn’t make much sense here, but with the way college football latches onto anyone who has shown promise for more than 10 seconds, I’m sure his name will come up in the coaching cycle this off-season.

 

[18IsTheMan]

He has that future head coach aura about him

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[Cobie]

Jerry Neuheisel set the CFB world afire with the way his offense sliced and diced the PSU defense.

He’s a career UCLA guy and doesn’t make much sense here, but with the way college football latches onto anyone who has shown promise for more than 10 seconds, I’m sure his name will come up in the coaching cycle this off-season.

You mean what "College football latches onto" or what you latch onto?

UCLA currently sits outside the Top 100 in Total Offense in D1.

You're something special.

Doubtfire - You really should consider rewiring this sensational/delusional thread-starter BOT.

He and the morally-bankrupt/half-witted frog have really done some damage to your network over recent months.

 

[muscleknight]

Freddie kitchens at UNC will be available soon

 

[18IsTheMan]

Freddie kitchens at UNC will be available soon

Maybe Belichick as well

 

[LonesomeRooster]

Fred Schwartz from Newcastle State.

 

[gamecock stock]

I believe it would be someone from a low/mid-tier FBS school.

I'm more interested in who would be OL coach. I don't care who the OC is, without a good OL coach, he'd be useless.

 

[Piscis]

It would be the most Carolina thing ever to hire an OC based on how his team did in one game.

 

[Sleepyhead]

Too soon. Not even halfway through his first season. Former HC at Bama and coached as an OC in a Super Bowl. Given the experience, the offense seems uninspired and lacks creativity though.

 

[Lurker123]

Too soon. Not even halfway through his first season. Former HC at Bama and coached as an OC in a Super Bowl. Given the experience, the offense seems uninspired and lacks creativity though.

As Stock mentioned earlier, this OL coach is limiting us. I would love to see what our OC could do behind even a decent OL before making a judgement.

 

[Sleepyhead]

As Stock mentioned earlier, this OL coach is limiting us. I would love to see what our OC could do behind even a decent OL before making a judgement.

That’s completely fair. We all wouldn’t shut up in the offeason about having Babalade on the field and here we are going into game six finally starting to settle on a unit. It’s more than that obviously though. We have Sellers for 7 more games in a Carolina uniform. Cut him loose.

 

[18IsTheMan]

As Stock mentioned earlier, this OL coach is limiting us. I would love to see what our OC could do behind even a decent OL before making a judgement.

The risk, though, is that you get a new OL coach and bring back Shula and the offense is stagnant again. If the OL isn't vastly improved, some would say you still can't judge Shula b/c the new OL coach hasn't had sufficient time to fix the OL. So then you're still looking at Shula in 2027, at which point if the offense still isn't good, you've washed 2 more years down the drain. If he had some kind of track record as an uber successful OC, it'd be a different story.

If it were me, and it is not, I'd replace OC and OL. I know there's a 0% chance he'll part with a coach after 1 season though.

 

[Sleepyhead]

On the bright side, doesn’t the whole line pretty much return next season. I mean Thompson, Sarratt, D Gray, Babalade, and maybe Henry I forget. Those are some players.

 

[gamecock stock]

The risk, though, is that you get a new OL coach and bring back Shula and the offense is stagnant again. If the OL isn't vastly improved, some would say you still can't judge Shula b/c the new OL coach hasn't had sufficient time to fix the OL. So then you're still looking at Shula in 2027, at which point if the offense still isn't good, you've washed 2 more years down the drain. If he had some kind of track record as an uber successful OC, it'd be a different story.

If it were me, and it is not, I'd replace OC and OL. I know there's a 0% chance he'll part with a coach after 1 season though.

That said, I don't think it's unfair to say that we handicapped Shula from the get-go giving him an OL Coach whose lines ranked 120th+ in Sacks Allowed and Losses Behind The Line Of Scrimmage in each of the previous two seasons. If I was Shula, I'd be ticked off about that. The blame falls squarely on Beamer.

I'm not saying that Shula was a top tier hire. But the guy has had some success in his coaching career:
As OC, his Tampa Bay team nearly made it to the Super Bowl after barely losing in the NFL championship game against the eventual Super Bowl champion;
As Head Coach at Alabama, he led them to their first bowl in 3 years in his 2nd season there;
In his 3rd season at Alabama, he led them to 10 wins, finishing 8th in the nation;
He coached Cam Newton to become Offensive Rookie of the Year;
In 2015, Shula was named the Offensive Coordinator of the Year in the NFL.

I'm not saying Shula is great. But Beamer has made way worse and illogical hires. I won't name names. I'll just repeat what Urban Meyer has said: the most important hires a Head Coach makes are;
Strength and Conditioning Coordinator, and
Offensive Line Coach.

 

[18IsTheMan]

That said, I don't think it's unfair to say that we handicapped Shula from the get-go giving him an OL Coach whose lines ranked 120th+ in Sacks Allowed and Losses Behind The Line Of Scrimmage in each of the previous two seasons. If I was Shula, I'd be ticked off about that. The blame falls squarely on Beamer.

I'm not saying that Shula was a top tier hire. But the guy has had some success in his coaching career:
As OC, his Tampa Bay team nearly made it to the Super Bowl after barely losing in the NFL championship game against the eventual Super Bowl champion;
As Head Coach at Alabama, he led them to their first bowl in 3 years in his 2nd season there;
In his 3rd season at Alabama, he led them to 10 wins, finishing 8th in the nation;
He coached Cam Newton to become Offensive Rookie of the Year;
In 2015, Shula was named the Offensive Coordinator of the Year in the NFL.

I'm not saying Shula is great. But Beamer has made way worse and illogical hires. I won't name names. I'll just repeat what Urban Meyer has said: the most important hires a Head Coach makes are;
Strength and Conditioning Coordinator, and
Offensive Line Coach.

No doubt, Shula was dealt a crappy hand.

I have to assume a new OL coach is a foregone conclusion. But I thought that 2 years ago and last year.

 

[SouthernBelly]

Yes, too soon, especially going into an HC’s 6th season where the offenses have generally been meh. Who do you bring in at that point and realistically expect improvement? But the general sentiment about needing a better OL coach before doing anything with OC is correct.

 

[muscleknight]

It would be the most Carolina thing ever to hire an OC based on how his team did in one game.

We already did with Darrin Horn.

 

[18IsTheMan]

We already did with Darrin Horn.

And Lamont Paris, if we're being honest. Save a for 3 at the buzzer, Chattanooga loses the SoCon championship game and does not make the NCAAT and we never hear Lamont's name.

 

[Sleepyhead]

And Lamont Paris, if we're being honest. Save a for 3 at the buzzer, Chattanooga loses the SoCon championship game and does not make the NCAAT and we never hear Lamont's name.

Paris is a different story. If the finish near the bottom or last in the league again (they probably will) he should get fired.

 

[gamecock stock]

Paris is a different story. If the finish near the bottom or last in the league again (they probably will) he should get fired.

To me, Paris first 2 seasons were better than I expected. Not so last season. Cannot afford a repeat of last season.

 

[LonesomeRooster]

The risk, though, is that you get a new OL coach and bring back Shula and the offense is stagnant again. If the OL isn't vastly improved, some would say you still can't judge Shula b/c the new OL coach hasn't had sufficient time to fix the OL. So then you're still looking at Shula in 2027, at which point if the offense still isn't good, you've washed 2 more years down the drain. If he had some kind of track record as an uber successful OC, it'd be a different story.

If it were me, and it is not, I'd replace OC and OL. I know there's a 0% chance he'll part with a coach after 1 season though.

The mistake Beamer keeps making is hiring an OC and forcing them to work with the existing staff. Hire an OC and let them pick their staff - at least their OL coach.

 

[18IsTheMan]

The mistake Beamer keeps making is hiring an OC and forcing them to work with the existing staff. Hire an OC and let them pick their staff - at least their OL coach.

Yes, I agree.

 

[Cobie]

The mistake Beamer keeps making is hiring an OC and forcing them to work with the existing staff. Hire an OC and let them pick their staff - at least their OL coach.

"The mistake Beamer keeps making....'

OC Loggains recorded one of our best seasons ever last year.

The offense was one of the best in the country the 2nd half.

OC Shula was on staff as analyst the year before he got hired.

How does anything you mentioned above make sense other that the fact you picked up two likes from yourself?

We see you.

 

[18IsTheMan]

When I see "ignored content" posted;

 

[Cobie]

When I see "ignored content" posted;

When we see your content posted;

 

[kidrobinski]

I think the bot bits have you on ignore Cobie; they lost too many mouthpieces. Keep it up though; concise truth with excellent entertainment as a bonus.

They focus on sniggling at me now while they’re in their backyard fort playing with their Pokémon and gi joes.

 

[Lurker123]

Good puppy. Follow your owner around and tell him how smart and cool you think he is.

Lol

 

[Lurker123]

When I see "ignored content" posted;

I do get a pretty good chuckle out of knowing how much it ticks him off not to get a response.

Good thing he's got his little puppy to conveniently show up and give him that fix.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I do get a pretty good chuckle out of knowing how much it ticks him off not to get a response.

Good thing he's got his little puppy to conveniently show up and give him that fix.

I don't even remember his name, but he's the only ignore I have. I just call him Kidro Jr.

But what do I know since my dad wasn't a flag football coach?

 

[Lurker123]

I don't even remember his name, but he's the only ignore I have. I just call him Kidro Jr.

But what do I know since my dad wasn't a flag football coach?

Coopie or something?

I just think of him as JT ward. That was his handle when he stalked me on the old board. Before he followed me to this board.

I do feel that gaping hole in my life for not having a dad that was a flag football coach. It haunts me to this day every time i see a game on TV.

 

[Cobie]

Coopie or something?

I just think of him as JT ward. That was his handle when he stalked me on the old board. Before he followed me to this board.

I do feel that gaping hole in my life for not having a dad that was a flag football coach. It haunts me to this day every time i see a game on TV.

Speaking of the old board, it's interesting that you have exchanges between you and yourself (Gamecock Stock) posted on your profile over concerns that real members and actual USC fans (me, Paleo, "Mrs Satterfield", etc) might out you on this one.

This was a good 6 months before we arrived on ON3, and it was right at the time everyone was calling you out on Rivals.

Your cover was blown and you decided to hold a chat with yourself in hopes of playing defense if the roof started to cave in.

It was so important you decided to pin it on your profile.

I'm sure it went down for you a similar way on CockyTalk.

In case you're thinking about deleting -- I've already saved a screenshot.

Cheers Botman. And there will be more to come.

https://www.on3.com/boards/members/lurker123.453041/

 

[Lurker123]

Ignored poster notice.

Puppy needs to come along shortly and praise his owner.

 

[kidrobinski]

lol. Exit the lurkerpuppy mouthpiece. Again.

 

[Lurker123]

Lol

Like clockwork. Good puppy!

 

[LonesomeRooster]

I think the bot bits have you on ignore Cobie; they lost too many mouthpieces. Keep it up though; concise truth with excellent entertainment as a bonus.

They focus on sniggling at me now while they’re in their backyard fort playing with their Pokémon and gi joes.

The two of you are destroying what is otherwise an enjoyable place to post ideas, opinions and guesses about the Gamecocks.

 

[Lurker123]

The two of you are destroying what is otherwise an enjoyable place to post ideas, opinions and guesses about the Gamecocks.

The ignore feature is your friend. The board is relatively clean with only the main troll on ignore.

Now, there's just the occasional "great post, you're so cool" post from kidrob.

 

[Cobie]

The two of you are destroying what is otherwise an enjoyable place to post ideas, opinions and guesses about the Gamecocks.

We appreciate the fact you are the LonesomeRooster.

All we are asking if you pick one account and you can flame away at the team if you feel the need.

No one believes all of these clown accounts appear at once and echoing the same crap.

You don't need a thousand accounts to make/reinforce your thoughts.

 

[LonesomeRooster]

We appreciate the fact you are the LonesomeRooster.

All we are asking if you pick one account and you can flame away at the team if you feel the need.

No one believes all of these clown accounts appear at once and echoing the same crap.

You don't need a thousand accounts to make/reinforce your thoughts.

There are 2 of you out of all the posters here. The rest of us are civil.

Argumentum Ad Hominen

An ad hominem fallacy occurs when someone rejects or undermines an argument by attacking the character, credentials, or other personal traits of the person presenting it.

 

[Cobie]

There are 2 of you out of all the posters here. The rest of us are civil.

Argumentum Ad Hominen

An ad hominem fallacy occurs when someone rejects or undermines an argument by attacking the character, credentials, or other personal traits of the person presenting it.

 

[Skuddy]

When I see "ignored content" posted;

I have to say, I have really enjoyed the board a lot more.