Too thin skinned to handle being President

WhiteTailEER

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If Hillary wins, what kind of retribution can we expect? I don't buy into the killings conspiracy theories, but I can't see Hillary letting that slide without a response.

I don't know. And I can't say I find the source all that credible, but it sorta supported what I had seen before and I posted it because I couldn't find what I saw before.

I'm not big no conspiracy theories either, but studies have shown that those that ascend to positions of power have many common traits with psychopaths and sociopaths, so I guess anything is possible.
 

op2

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Almost everything you post is through race, and now gender, colored glasses. Can't you look past the physical and see what people actually are, or are you that shallow?

Don't shoot me, I'm only the messenger. You know full well that it's very unlikely a woman or a black man could win the GOP POTUS nomination at this point in time.
 

op2

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Really? Is there a reliable source for that? Found on computer that Donald Trump has refused to provide those official records of his that Obama would not provide. Some sleezy paper made the request.

Obama provided his official birth certificate when he ran for POTUS. That thing they brought out after being hectored by Trump isn't an official record. Why did Trump spend so much time demanding something that wasn't even official anyway? Because he knew it would rile up people like yourself.
 

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Don't shoot me, I'm only the messenger. You know full well that it's very unlikely a woman or a black man could win the GOP POTUS nomination at this point in time.

That is complete BS. Years ago, conservatives were begging Colin Powell to run. He chose not to. Carson and Fiorina are 2nd and 3rd in the race far ahead of many white men.
 

WhiteTailEER

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Obama provided his official birth certificate when he ran for POTUS.

Don't you know, it's easier to qualify to be POTUS than it is to get a driver's license.

That always killed me. You have to provide proof of residency and birth certificate and whatnot to get a driver's license. You have to fill out an I-9 asking for those things to get a job, but nobody checks anything on a presidential candidate? Just logically, that doesn't make any sense, so I never understood what the birthers were getting riled up about in the first place. The vast majority seem to believe anything if they WANT it to be true, even if it doesn't make any sense.
 

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The Obama administration blocked a 13 year old African American on Twitter because he is conservative. That is pretty thin skinned if you ask me.
 

mneilmont

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Obama provided his official birth certificate when he ran for POTUS. That thing they brought out after being hectored by Trump isn't an official record. Why did Trump spend so much time demanding something that wasn't even official anyway? Because he knew it would rile up people like yourself.
Source where Obama provided official Birth Certificate, please. I think he eventually did, but there were too many people doubting and too much hell raised had there been proof that he offered at time of application.

Such documentation has been demanded in congress since that time and it was shot down. I would be totally at ease if you can provide evidence that your offering is absolutely true.

I made this argument several years back to prevent deadpanning in the future. Of course I was accused of racism and that I would not ask that from a white man. I still contend that there are so few requirements, why not demand that all applicants provide a copy and attach to filing form? Seems like damned little to require of anyone applying to be leader of US.
 

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Source where Obama provided official Birth Certificate, please. I think he eventually did, but there were too many people doubting and too much hell raised had there been proof that he offered at time of application.

Such documentation has been demanded in congress since that time and it was shot down. I would be totally at ease if you can provide evidence that your offering is absolutely true.

I made this argument several years back to prevent deadpanning in the future. Of course I was accused of racism and that I would not ask that from a white man. I still contend that there are so few requirements, why not demand that all applicants provide a copy and attach to filing form? Seems like damned little to require of anyone applying to be leader of US.
People doubt that there was a Holocaust despite evidence to the contrary. People doubt that we ever landed men on the moon, and cook up "proof" to support the claims. Let's not even discuss the assassination of JFK. People will believe what they want based on little to no proof for or against. How does someone go about getting on 50 state ballots without having to provide any proof of identity or qualifications?
 

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Source where Obama provided official Birth Certificate, please. I think he eventually did, but there were too many people doubting and too much hell raised had there been proof that he offered at time of application.

Such documentation has been demanded in congress since that time and it was shot down. I would be totally at ease if you can provide evidence that your offering is absolutely true.

I made this argument several years back to prevent deadpanning in the future. Of course I was accused of racism and that I would not ask that from a white man. I still contend that there are so few requirements, why not demand that all applicants provide a copy and attach to filing form? Seems like damned little to require of anyone applying to be leader of US.

Here you go. This article is only seven years old now.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
 

WhiteTailEER

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People doubt that there was a Holocaust despite evidence to the contrary. People doubt that we ever landed men on the moon, and cook up "proof" to support the claims. Let's not even discuss the assassination of JFK. People will believe what they want based on little to no proof for or against. How does someone go about getting on 50 state ballots without having to provide any proof of identity or qualifications?

Obama provided a reproduced (but official) copy of his birth certificate in June of 2008. I have the same thing as my original was lost at some point or another. My wife recently got an official reproduced copy of her birth certificate as well.
 

mule_eer

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Obama provided a reproduced (but official) copy of his birth certificate in June of 2008. I have the same thing as my original was lost at some point or another. My wife recently got an official reproduced copy of her birth certificate as well.
I agree. That was my point, although, after looking back through my post, my point isn't clearly made.
 

mneilmont

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People doubt that there was a Holocaust despite evidence to the contrary. People doubt that we ever landed men on the moon, and cook up "proof" to support the claims. Let's not even discuss the assassination of JFK. People will believe what they want based on little to no proof for or against. How does someone go about getting on 50 state ballots without having to provide any proof of identity or qualifications?
I believe you are answering a question with a question. I am not sure all the other things you offer are pertinent to this question. Is/was it required to show verification that an applicant show proof of meeting requirements when filing application? In the same piece in my research, it said Trump offered Obama $5 million to show proof of requirements + college transcripts. Had not previously heard of monetary offer.
 

WhiteTailEER

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Does this pertain to your prior post that he complied when he filed? This piece was was a 2009 date. And it says nothing about a requirement to ...... at the time of filing>

The requirement isn't at time of filing, but before taking office. Just read this on a constitution site.
 

mneilmont

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Does this pertain to your prior post that he complied when he filed? This piece was was a 2009 date. And it says nothing about a requirement to ...... at the time of filing>
The requirement isn't at time of filing, but before taking office. Just read this on a constitution site.
And, that would be a correct statement.
 

mneilmont

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Does this pertain to your prior post that he complied when he filed? This piece was was a 2009 date. And it says nothing about a requirement to ...... at the time of filing>
The requirement isn't at time of filing, but before taking office. Just read this on a constitution site.
And, that would be a correct statement.
 

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I don't carry a video camera and follow these guys 24/7/ Can you prove to me to that level of proof that ANY POTUS ever has proven he's a US citizen? No.
 

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I don't carry a video camera and follow these guys 24/7/ Can you prove to me to that level of proof that ANY POTUS ever has proven he's a US citizen? No.
I don't think most have actually had to to be honest. I think the issue came up mostly because of Hillary and then when you started looking into it, the living in Kenya or Indonesia thing was sketchy. When it was first brought up, the immediate reaction was to scream racism.
 

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Obama didn't live in Kenya. And how is the Indonesia thing sketchy? When he was a child his mother married an Indonesian man and moved in Indonesia. What the hell is an 6 year old kid supposed to do under those circumstances, rough it on his own in Hawaii so he can avoid living in Indonesia?

What's amazing is how much of the BS slung about Obama has actually stuck. We're over six and a half years into his Presidency and people still think he's a Muslim born in Kenya that lived in Indonesia on some kind of secret mission. When BS made to sound sinister is stuck to Obama, that's when people cry racism. Granted that is par for the course to a certain degree in politics but I think it's safe to say it has been taken to another level with Obama.

The bare facts about Obama's life are easy to find. Take a few minutes and read his Wiki page.
 

mneilmont

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Obama didn't live in Kenya. And how is the Indonesia thing sketchy? When he was a child his mother married an Indonesian man and moved in Indonesia. What the hell is an 6 year old kid supposed to do under those circumstances, rough it on his own in Hawaii so he can avoid living in Indonesia?

What's amazing is how much of the BS slung about Obama has actually stuck. We're over six and a half years into his Presidency and people still think he's a Muslim born in Kenya that lived in Indonesia on some kind of secret mission. When BS made to sound sinister is stuck to Obama, that's when people cry racism. Granted that is par for the course to a certain degree in politics but I think it's safe to say it has been taken to another level with Obama.

The bare facts about Obama's life are easy to find. Take a few minutes and read his Wiki page.
Who are we to accept as factual? Politico? Wiki? Is everyone racist who does not believe in Obama? Can we accept passages from his own books verbatim? Should we accept his spoken word without question? What does the word racism mean when it is offered as criticism as the only reason to question his actions? Is it possible to criticize his acts/policies/politics without being charged with racism ?

May I state that nearly everything during his terms have been very poor or absolute failure
 

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Obama didn't live in Kenya. And how is the Indonesia thing sketchy? When he was a child his mother married an Indonesian man and moved in Indonesia. What the hell is an 6 year old kid supposed to do under those circumstances, rough it on his own in Hawaii so he can avoid living in Indonesia?

What's amazing is how much of the BS slung about Obama has actually stuck. We're over six and a half years into his Presidency and people still think he's a Muslim born in Kenya that lived in Indonesia on some kind of secret mission. When BS made to sound sinister is stuck to Obama, that's when people cry racism. Granted that is par for the course to a certain degree in politics but I think it's safe to say it has been taken to another level with Obama.

The bare facts about Obama's life are easy to find. Take a few minutes and read his Wiki page.
Did you just quote wiki as being factual? And relax Francis, I'm not and never have been a birther. I was merely recalling to the best of my ability some of the stuff that lead people to question his place of birth. And no, I don't have all of the specific details committed to memory. I just remember it had something to do with Kenya, Indonesia, and Hawaii and the timing of it all.

I also never thought he was a Muslim.

I did think he was unqualified to be President and I have been proven right.
 
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Did you just quote wiki as being factual?

It's got a hell of a lot better track record than Faux News. Faux comes in at 22% factual. Wiki is in the 90 something percent range and when inaccuracies are found, they are corrected. But go on and tell us how you're not a right winger too while you're at it.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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It's got a hell of a lot better track record than Faux News. Faux comes in at 22% factual. Wiki is in the 90 something percent range and when inaccuracies are found, they are corrected. But go on and tell us how you're not a right winger too while you're at it.
I am a Republican. I'm not ashamed of that. I'm not one of the fringe lunatics on the far right. Kind of hard to be that considering, A. I'm not religious, B. I support gay marriage and gay equality, C. Have voted for Democrats D. Believe we need some kind of safety net for the less fortunate.

You on the other hand are self professed leftist moron.