Top 25 poll out. How does Notre Dame make top 25?

[99jc]

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2009 preseason poll</font><font size="4">

</font> </div> </td> </tr> <tr valign="center"> <td class="inside-copy" width="77"> <div align="center"> <font color="#000000">Rank</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"><font color="#000000">Team (first-place votes)</font></td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#000000">2008 record</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#000000">Points</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#000000">Final 2008 rank</font> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">1.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> Florida (53) </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 13-1 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 1,466 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 1 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">2.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> Texas (4) </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 12-1 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 1,386 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 3 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">3.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> Oklahoma (1) </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 12-2 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 1,358 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 5 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">4.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> Southern California (1) </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 12-1 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 1,321 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 2 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">5.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> </a> [url="http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/sec/alabama.htm"]Alabama </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 12-2 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 1,134 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 6 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">6.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> Ohio State </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 10-3 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 1,126 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 11 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">7.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigeast/sflorida.htm<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/acc/vatech.htm">Virginia Tech[/url] </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 10-4 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 1,020 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 14 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">8.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> Penn State </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 11-2 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 988 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 8 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">9.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> LSU </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 8-5 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 917 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> NR </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right" height="14"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">10.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> Mississippi </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 9-4 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 889 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 15 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">11.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> Oklahoma State </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 9-4 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 861 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 18 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">12.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> California </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 9-4 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 711 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 25 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">13.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> Georgia </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 10-3 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 707 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 10 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">14.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431">Oregon</td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 10-3 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 694 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 9 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">15.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> Georgia Tech </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 9-4 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 559 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 22 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right" height="13"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">16.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431">Boise State</td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 12-1 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 542 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 13 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right" height="15"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">17.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> TCU </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 11-2 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 461 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 7 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">18.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> Utah </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 13-0 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 404 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 4 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">19.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> Florida State </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 9-4 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 371 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 23 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">20.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431">North Carolina</td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 8-5 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 293 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> NR </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">21.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> Iowa </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 9-4 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 257 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 20 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">22.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> Nebraska </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 9-4 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 236 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> NR </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">23.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431">Notre Dame</td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 7-6 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 194 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> NR </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">24.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431"> <div align="left"> Brigham Young </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 10-3 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 178 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 21 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" width="77" align="right"> <div align="center"> <font color="#800000">25.</font> </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="431">Oregon State</td> <td class="inside-copy" width="136" align="right"> <div align="center"> 9-4 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="127" align="right"> <div align="center"> 165 </div> </td> <td class="inside-copy" width="126" align="right"> <div align="center"> 19 </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" colspan="5" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" colspan="6" valign="center" height="15"><font color="#FFFFFF"><font color="#000000">Others receiving votes (with 2008 records)</font></font></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" colspan="6">Kansas (8-5) 138; Michigan State (9-4) 136; Texas Tech (11-2) 114; Cincinnati (11-3) 90; Pittsburgh (9-4) 64; West Virginia (9-4) 55; Rutgers (8-5) 51; Miami (Fla.) (7-6) 46; Missouri (10-4) 44; Illinois (5-7) 38; Clemson (7-6) 30; South Carolina (7-6) 18; UCLA (4-8) 14; Auburn (5-7) 12; Nevada (7-6) 11; South Florida (8-5) 11; Kentucky (7-6) 9; North Carolina State (6-7) 7; Arkansas (5-7) 6; Wisconsin (7-6) 6; Northwestern (9-4) 5; Southern Mississippi (7-6) 4; Wake Forest (8-5) 4; Arizona (8-5) 3; Boston College (9-5) 3; Central Michigan (8-5) 3; East Carolina (9-5) 3; Colorado (5-7) 2; Maryland (8-5) 2; Navy (8-5) 2; Tennessee (5-7) 2; Houston (8-5) 1; Michigan (3-9) 1; Minnesota (7-6) 1; Troy (8-5) 1.</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="inside-copy" colspan="6" height="23">
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[topdawg.sixpack]

That is unreal.

 

[rebelrouseri]

2009 Notre Dame Football Schedule
Sept. 5 NEVADA
Sept. 12 at Michigan
Sept. 19 MICHIGAN STATE
Sept. 26 at Purdue
Oct. 3 WASHINGTON
Oct. 10 Open Date
Oct. 17 USC
Oct. 24 BOSTON COLLEGE
Oct. 31 vs. Washington State (at San Antonio, Texas)
Nov. 7 NAVY
Nov. 14 at Pittsburgh
Nov. 21 CONNECTICUT
Nov. 28 at Stanford

 

[VegasDawg13]

nm

 

[jack.sixpack]

4 things that stand out to me on the "others receiving votes".... auburn, arkansas, kentucky, and troy all got votes... they may not have had as bad of a year as we did, but we beat arkansas, should have beat (with a decent coach) auburn and kentucky.... and troy, well no need in explaining my thoughts on that.... and what are we? #80 or something close. 17 crooms

 

[615dawg]

Coaches will vote their buddy coaches, conference teams etc. at the bottom of the poll (receiving 1-5 points.) in the preseason poll. When the AFCA (who actually conducts the poll for USA Today) send out the ballots on Monday morning, the results of all teams who received votes the prior week are included.

Oh, Troy is 1-0, I'll vote them #25.
Next week, Troy won again, several more coaches vote them #25
Next week, Troy is 3-0, some coaches start to move them up to #22
etc.

 

[Bdog9090]

and they usually always make preseason polls no matter how ****** they are. Plus I think a lot of voters are buying into the whole number of starts your OL has the better your season will be. Notre Dame's Oline has a high games started number.

 

[38843dawg]

nm</p>

 

[Bdog9090]

nm

 

[patdog]

nm

 

[fishwater99]

..

 

[Shmuley]

Until I see their OL and the QB play, I won't be convinced. However, their defense is f'n nasty.

 

[jakldawg]

Auburn? Arkansas?
To me that seems weird, but I'm hardly an expert.

Someone out there was impressed with a victory over LSU and Ryan Mallet's laser rocket arm

The surprise there to me is that the Razorbacks didn't get more love.

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