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<blockquote data-quote="Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals" data-source="post: 131676307" data-attributes="member: 1759980">We know that media “experts” and fans get it wrong about how college stars will do in the NFL.What about NFL analytics who are paid millions of $$$ to help their teams make the draft choices?I choose the 2017 draft because 4-year contracts with 5th-year options are standard in the NFL for First Round draft picks.HALF the 2017 first round draft picks are not with their original team for the 2021 season! Even the analytics do no better than a coin toss.Garrett two Pro Bowls and received first-team All-Pro honors in 2020 and still is with the Browns.Mitchell Trubisky faltered to free agent with Bills by 2021Solomon Thomas a free agent with the Raiders by 2021Leonard Fournette by 2020 Jags couldn’t get any team to make a trade for him so he signed as a free agent with Tampa BayCorey Davis by 2021 was dropped by the Titans and went to the Jets but did get a 3-year contractJamal Adams made Pro Bowl twice, was team captain in 2018, demanded a trade and was sent to the Seahawks in a 4-player deal.Mike Williams still is with the Chargers for the 2021 season.Christian McCaffrey in 2020 signed a 4-year extension with the Panthers that makes him the highest paid running back in NFL historyJohn Ross in 2021 became a free agent with the Giants.Patrick Mahomes in 2018 became the first Chief named NFL MVP, in 2019 was named Super Bowl MVP of Super Bowl champ Chiefs, in 2020 got a $503 million contract extension.Marshon Lattimore was a steady performer every season for the Saints, but was arrested in March 2021 and charged with having a stolen handgun. The case has not been resolved.Deshaun Watson led the league in passing yards in 2020 and still is with the Texans.Haason Reddick began a free agent with the Panthers for 2021.Derek Barnett played with the 2017 Eagles Super Bowl champs, had an injury-shorted 2018 season and still is with the Eagles.Malik Hooker after an injury-plagued career is a free agent the Cowboys are considering.Marlon Humphrey still is with the Ravens with a 5-year contract extension.Jonathan Allen still is with the Redskins, or whatever Washington is called in 2021.Adoree' Jackson is a free agent with the Giants for 2021.O.J. Howard still is with the Bucs despite being on injured reserve 3 of his 4 seasons.Garett Bolles, despite being penalized for holding more than any other NFL player for 3 seasons, has a 4-year extension and still is with the Broncos.Jarrad Davis became a free agent with the Jets for 2021.Charles Harris was traded to the Falcons in 2020 for a 7th round draft pick.Evan Engram still is with the Giants despite injuries and untimely dropped passes.Gareon Conley was traded to the Texans in 2019 for a 3rd round draft pick and is a free agent in 2021.Jabrill Peppers in 2019 was traded to the Giants.Takkarist McKinley was claimed off waivers by the Raiders in November 2020.Tre'Davious White still is with the Bills with a 4-year contract extension and has missed only 2 games.Taco Charlton after only 2 weeks in 2019 was released by the Cowboys, claimed off waivers by the Dolphins, then was waived again and signed by the Chiefs.David Njoku still is with the Browns despite being on injured reserve 2 of his 4 seasons.T.J. Watt’s brothers J.J. Watt (Cardinals) and Derek Watt (Steelers) mean 3 brothers in one family made it to the NFL. T.J. still is with the Steelers.Reuben Foster was released by the 49ers in 2018 over his crime rap sheet, the Redskins took a chance and signed him in November 2018 but injuries dogged him in 2020.Ryan Ramczyk still is with the Saints and doing wellSee, it's not that easy making NFL draft choices . . . unless you're fan who knows better than the experts.Round&nbsp; &nbsp; Pick&nbsp; &nbsp; Overall Pick&nbsp; &nbsp; Team&nbsp; &nbsp; Player&nbsp; &nbsp; Position&nbsp; &nbsp; School&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; Cleveland Browns&nbsp; &nbsp; Myles Garrett&nbsp; &nbsp; DE&nbsp; &nbsp; Texas A&amp;M1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; Chicago Bears&nbsp; &nbsp; Mitchell Trubisky&nbsp; &nbsp; QB&nbsp; &nbsp; North Carolina1&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; San Francisco 49ers&nbsp; &nbsp; Solomon Thomas&nbsp; &nbsp; DE&nbsp; &nbsp; Stanford1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; Jacksonville Jaguars&nbsp; &nbsp; Leonard Fournette&nbsp; &nbsp; RB&nbsp; &nbsp; LSU1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; Tennessee Titans&nbsp; &nbsp; Corey Davis&nbsp; &nbsp; WR&nbsp; &nbsp; Western Michigan1&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; New York Jets&nbsp; &nbsp; Jamal Adams&nbsp; &nbsp; S&nbsp; &nbsp; LSU1&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; Los Angeles Chargers&nbsp; &nbsp; Mike Williams&nbsp; &nbsp; WR&nbsp; &nbsp; Clemson1&nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; Carolina Panthers&nbsp; &nbsp; Christian McCaffrey&nbsp; &nbsp; RB&nbsp; &nbsp; Stanford1&nbsp; &nbsp; 9&nbsp; &nbsp; 9&nbsp; &nbsp; Cincinnati Bengals&nbsp; &nbsp; John Ross&nbsp; &nbsp; WR&nbsp; &nbsp; Washington1&nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; &nbsp; Kansas City Chiefs&nbsp; &nbsp; Patrick Mahomes&nbsp; &nbsp; QB&nbsp; &nbsp; Texas Tech1&nbsp; &nbsp; 11&nbsp; &nbsp; 11&nbsp; &nbsp; New Orleans Saints&nbsp; &nbsp; Marshon Lattimore&nbsp; &nbsp; CB&nbsp; &nbsp; Ohio State1&nbsp; &nbsp; 12&nbsp; &nbsp; 12&nbsp; &nbsp; Houston Texans&nbsp; &nbsp; Deshaun Watson&nbsp; &nbsp; QB&nbsp; &nbsp; Clemson1&nbsp; &nbsp; 13&nbsp; &nbsp; 13&nbsp; &nbsp; Arizona Cardinals&nbsp; &nbsp; Haason Reddick&nbsp; &nbsp; LB&nbsp; &nbsp; Temple1&nbsp; &nbsp; 14&nbsp; &nbsp; 14&nbsp; &nbsp; Philadelphia Eagles&nbsp; &nbsp; Derek Barnett&nbsp; &nbsp; DE&nbsp; &nbsp; Tennessee1&nbsp; &nbsp; 15&nbsp; &nbsp; 15&nbsp; &nbsp; Indianapolis Colts&nbsp; &nbsp; Malik Hooker&nbsp; &nbsp; S&nbsp; &nbsp; Ohio State1&nbsp; &nbsp; 16&nbsp; &nbsp; 16&nbsp; &nbsp; Baltimore Ravens&nbsp; &nbsp; Marlon Humphrey&nbsp; &nbsp; CB&nbsp; &nbsp; Alabama1&nbsp; &nbsp; 17&nbsp; &nbsp; 17&nbsp; &nbsp; Washington&nbsp; &nbsp; Jonathan Allen&nbsp; &nbsp; DL&nbsp; &nbsp; Alabama1&nbsp; &nbsp; 18&nbsp; &nbsp; 18&nbsp; &nbsp; Tennessee Titans&nbsp; &nbsp; Adoree' Jackson&nbsp; &nbsp; CB&nbsp; &nbsp; Southern California1&nbsp; &nbsp; 19&nbsp; &nbsp; 19&nbsp; &nbsp; Tampa Bay Buccaneers&nbsp; &nbsp; O.J. Howard&nbsp; &nbsp; TE&nbsp; &nbsp; Alabama1&nbsp; &nbsp; 20&nbsp; &nbsp; 20&nbsp; &nbsp; Denver Broncos&nbsp; &nbsp; Garett Bolles&nbsp; &nbsp; OT&nbsp; &nbsp; Utah1&nbsp; &nbsp; 21&nbsp; &nbsp; 21&nbsp; &nbsp; Detroit Lions&nbsp; &nbsp; Jarrad Davis&nbsp; &nbsp; LB&nbsp; &nbsp; Florida1&nbsp; &nbsp; 22&nbsp; &nbsp; 22&nbsp; &nbsp; Miami Dolphins&nbsp; &nbsp; Charles Harris&nbsp; &nbsp; DE/OLB&nbsp; &nbsp; Missouri1&nbsp; &nbsp; 23&nbsp; &nbsp; 23&nbsp; &nbsp; New York Giants&nbsp; &nbsp; Evan Engram&nbsp; &nbsp; TE&nbsp; &nbsp; Mississippi1&nbsp; &nbsp; 24&nbsp; &nbsp; 24&nbsp; &nbsp; Oakland Raiders&nbsp; &nbsp; Gareon Conley&nbsp; &nbsp; CB&nbsp; &nbsp; Ohio State1&nbsp; &nbsp; 25&nbsp; &nbsp; 25&nbsp; &nbsp; Cleveland Browns&nbsp; &nbsp; Jabrill Peppers&nbsp; &nbsp; S&nbsp; &nbsp; Michigan1&nbsp; &nbsp; 26&nbsp; &nbsp; 26&nbsp; &nbsp; Atlanta Falcons&nbsp; &nbsp; Takkarist McKinley&nbsp; &nbsp; OLB&nbsp; &nbsp; UCLA1&nbsp; &nbsp; 27&nbsp; &nbsp; 27&nbsp; &nbsp; Buffalo Bills&nbsp; &nbsp; Tre'Davious White&nbsp; &nbsp; CB&nbsp; &nbsp; LSU1&nbsp; &nbsp; 28&nbsp; &nbsp; 28&nbsp; &nbsp; Dallas Cowboys&nbsp; &nbsp; Taco Charlton&nbsp; &nbsp; DE&nbsp; &nbsp; Michigan1&nbsp; &nbsp; 29&nbsp; &nbsp; 29&nbsp; &nbsp; Cleveland Browns&nbsp; &nbsp; David Njoku&nbsp; &nbsp; TE&nbsp; &nbsp; Miami1&nbsp; &nbsp; 30&nbsp; &nbsp; 30&nbsp; &nbsp; Pittsburgh Steelers&nbsp; &nbsp; T.J. Watt&nbsp; &nbsp; OLB&nbsp; &nbsp; Wisconsin1&nbsp; &nbsp; 31&nbsp; &nbsp; 31&nbsp; &nbsp; San Francisco 49ers&nbsp; &nbsp; Reuben Foster&nbsp; &nbsp; MLB&nbsp; &nbsp; Alabama1&nbsp; &nbsp; 32&nbsp; &nbsp; 32&nbsp; &nbsp; New Orleans Saints&nbsp; &nbsp; Ryan Ramczyk&nbsp; &nbsp; OT&nbsp; &nbsp; Wi</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals, post: 131676307, member: 1759980"] We know that media “experts” and fans get it wrong about how college stars will do in the NFL. What about NFL analytics who are paid millions of $$$ to help their teams make the draft choices? I choose the 2017 draft because 4-year contracts with 5th-year options are standard in the NFL for First Round draft picks. HALF the 2017 first round draft picks are not with their original team for the 2021 season! Even the analytics do no better than a coin toss. Garrett two Pro Bowls and received first-team All-Pro honors in 2020 and still is with the Browns. Mitchell Trubisky faltered to free agent with Bills by 2021 Solomon Thomas a free agent with the Raiders by 2021 Leonard Fournette by 2020 Jags couldn’t get any team to make a trade for him so he signed as a free agent with Tampa Bay Corey Davis by 2021 was dropped by the Titans and went to the Jets but did get a 3-year contract Jamal Adams made Pro Bowl twice, was team captain in 2018, demanded a trade and was sent to the Seahawks in a 4-player deal. Mike Williams still is with the Chargers for the 2021 season. Christian McCaffrey in 2020 signed a 4-year extension with the Panthers that makes him the highest paid running back in NFL history John Ross in 2021 became a free agent with the Giants. Patrick Mahomes in 2018 became the first Chief named NFL MVP, in 2019 was named Super Bowl MVP of Super Bowl champ Chiefs, in 2020 got a $503 million contract extension. Marshon Lattimore was a steady performer every season for the Saints, but was arrested in March 2021 and charged with having a stolen handgun. The case has not been resolved. Deshaun Watson led the league in passing yards in 2020 and still is with the Texans. Haason Reddick began a free agent with the Panthers for 2021. Derek Barnett played with the 2017 Eagles Super Bowl champs, had an injury-shorted 2018 season and still is with the Eagles. Malik Hooker after an injury-plagued career is a free agent the Cowboys are considering. Marlon Humphrey still is with the Ravens with a 5-year contract extension. Jonathan Allen still is with the Redskins, or whatever Washington is called in 2021. Adoree' Jackson is a free agent with the Giants for 2021. O.J. Howard still is with the Bucs despite being on injured reserve 3 of his 4 seasons. Garett Bolles, despite being penalized for holding more than any other NFL player for 3 seasons, has a 4-year extension and still is with the Broncos. Jarrad Davis became a free agent with the Jets for 2021. Charles Harris was traded to the Falcons in 2020 for a 7th round draft pick. Evan Engram still is with the Giants despite injuries and untimely dropped passes. Gareon Conley was traded to the Texans in 2019 for a 3rd round draft pick and is a free agent in 2021. Jabrill Peppers in 2019 was traded to the Giants. Takkarist McKinley was claimed off waivers by the Raiders in November 2020. Tre'Davious White still is with the Bills with a 4-year contract extension and has missed only 2 games. Taco Charlton after only 2 weeks in 2019 was released by the Cowboys, claimed off waivers by the Dolphins, then was waived again and signed by the Chiefs. David Njoku still is with the Browns despite being on injured reserve 2 of his 4 seasons. T.J. Watt’s brothers J.J. Watt (Cardinals) and Derek Watt (Steelers) mean 3 brothers in one family made it to the NFL. T.J. still is with the Steelers. Reuben Foster was released by the 49ers in 2018 over his crime rap sheet, the Redskins took a chance and signed him in November 2018 but injuries dogged him in 2020. Ryan Ramczyk still is with the Saints and doing well See, it's not that easy making NFL draft choices . . . unless you're fan who knows better than the experts. Round Pick Overall Pick Team Player Position School 1 1 1 Cleveland Browns Myles Garrett DE Texas A&M 1 2 2 Chicago Bears Mitchell Trubisky QB North Carolina 1 3 3 San Francisco 49ers Solomon Thomas DE Stanford 1 4 4 Jacksonville Jaguars Leonard Fournette RB LSU 1 5 5 Tennessee Titans Corey Davis WR Western Michigan 1 6 6 New York Jets Jamal Adams S LSU 1 7 7 Los Angeles Chargers Mike Williams WR Clemson 1 8 8 Carolina Panthers Christian McCaffrey RB Stanford 1 9 9 Cincinnati Bengals John Ross WR Washington 1 10 10 Kansas City Chiefs Patrick Mahomes QB Texas Tech 1 11 11 New Orleans Saints Marshon Lattimore CB Ohio State 1 12 12 Houston Texans Deshaun Watson QB Clemson 1 13 13 Arizona Cardinals Haason Reddick LB Temple 1 14 14 Philadelphia Eagles Derek Barnett DE Tennessee 1 15 15 Indianapolis Colts Malik Hooker S Ohio State 1 16 16 Baltimore Ravens Marlon Humphrey CB Alabama 1 17 17 Washington Jonathan Allen DL Alabama 1 18 18 Tennessee Titans Adoree' Jackson CB Southern California 1 19 19 Tampa Bay Buccaneers O.J. Howard TE Alabama 1 20 20 Denver Broncos Garett Bolles OT Utah 1 21 21 Detroit Lions Jarrad Davis LB Florida 1 22 22 Miami Dolphins Charles Harris DE/OLB Missouri 1 23 23 New York Giants Evan Engram TE Mississippi 1 24 24 Oakland Raiders Gareon Conley CB Ohio State 1 25 25 Cleveland Browns Jabrill Peppers S Michigan 1 26 26 Atlanta Falcons Takkarist McKinley OLB UCLA 1 27 27 Buffalo Bills Tre'Davious White CB LSU 1 28 28 Dallas Cowboys Taco Charlton DE Michigan 1 29 29 Cleveland Browns David Njoku TE Miami 1 30 30 Pittsburgh Steelers T.J. Watt OLB Wisconsin 1 31 31 San Francisco 49ers Reuben Foster MLB Alabama 1 32 32 New Orleans Saints Ryan Ramczyk OT Wi [/QUOTE]

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