Total Disgrace

richthedentist

All-American
Aug 2, 2001
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Outcoached their zone made us look silly.
They play 6 guys...we play 11
Bad and slow still plays
DG atrocious weak beat and beat again
Dortch zero
Nwuli zero
E nothing
Look at how their offense is in constant motion
Lino great job
1-8 against Minnesota for our coach
We have no offense and I don't understand why every team doesn't play a zone against us; We have absolutely no clue how to attack a zone
And defense how many open 3 pointers can you give a team!!!!!!!!!!
 

PiscatawayMike

Heisman
Jul 27, 2001
17,318
15,151
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Can't wait for day Pike is outta here
I hope you're as good a waiter as this guy.

It's going to be a while.

happy will arnett GIF
 

RedChucken123

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Normally, your negativity is insufferable, but I can’t disagree with you today. We are definitely playing our slowest players. And DG has been getting cooked too often.
 

Knightmoves

Heisman
Jul 31, 2001
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We have no offense and I don't understand why every team doesn't play a zone against us; We have absolutely no clue how to attack a zone
And defense how many open 3 pointers can you give a team!!!!!!!!!!
Agree. Our inability to break Minnys zone all game is perplexing to me. Surely Pike knew the zone defense they would play. Our offensive efforts were almost totally stifled at the 3 point line, except for a few passes at the foul line to Grant and a few drives by Lino.

Passing the ball around the 3 point line on offense with little inside game is never a good sign for a team.
 
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BigEastPhil

Heisman
Nov 25, 2007
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Outcoached their zone made us look silly.
They play 6 guys...we play 11
Bad and slow still plays
DG atrocious weak beat and beat again
Dortch zero
Nwuli zero
E nothing
Look at how their offense is in constant motion
Lino great job
1-8 against Minnesota for our coach
That 1 win at Minnesota was very memorable!
 
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PSAL_Hoops

Heisman
Feb 18, 2008
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It’s hard to break down a zone without a big who can put the ball through the net. Our bigs missed wide open looks. We gave zero inside out threat.
 

dark_check

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It’s hard to break down a zone without a big who can put the ball through the net. Our bigs missed wide open looks. We gave zero inside out threat.
Three ways to beat a zone. Beat it up the floor. Dribble penetration. Shoot over it. A big is not “required” but it sure does help.
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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Feb 18, 2008
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Three ways to beat a zone. Beat it up the floor. Dribble penetration. Shoot over it. A big is not “required” but it sure does help.

You can’t beat a zone up the floor when your defense doesn’t get any stops. That one was out.

The bottom line is Minny was well prepared for our offense - they had a simple plan. Prevent Tariq from penetrating and deny our best 3 point shooters the opportunities to get off open shots. It’s easy to do this when there’s no interior post offense to worry about. We only took 18 threes in the whole game and most of the open ones were from players like Mark and Denis who don’t normally make them.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Bigs as in plural ? What team’s forum do you think you’re on ?
Yeah I know it was only one shot, but the one Dortch missed in his limited minutes was painful enough to warrant the plural. If you can’t make that one, you literally present zero threat.
 

Jerseylegends

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Mar 15, 2023
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Dortch, Nwuli, Lino, JMike, Tariq, Kaden.
Definitely not Manny, Zrno.
I’d even pick DBJ over Grant.
Idk what happened to Grant lately.
That flu must’ve done a number on him and he’s still working his way back.
🤔 Maybe I'm confused as to what you're saying..are you saying he should play 2 of the guys you say are fast over zrno and ogbole? Or do you just mean for certain stretches of the game when you feel speed is required?
 

RUInsanityToo

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May 5, 2006
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Not sure why Pike didn't press and play physical from the start to try and wear them down, knowing that Minny has a small rotation. Sure it would have lead to some easy buckets for Minny, but they were killing us from 3 anyway.
 

RUJMM78

Heisman
Jul 25, 2001
26,187
12,443
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Poor coaching decisions and lack of talent result in embarrassing losses .Rutgers is totally clueless against Minnesota on the road.
 
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RedChucken123

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🤔 Maybe I'm confused as to what you're saying..are you saying he should play 2 of the guys you say are fast over zrno and ogbole? Or do you just mean for certain stretches of the game when you feel speed is required?
3 minutes from Dortch is ridiculous. If he’s healthy, I have no idea what Pike is doing. Same with Nwuli with 2 minutes. Especially when we’re being scorched from the outside. Manny’s “rim protection”, if you can call it that, is mitigated. AND WE STILL GOT OUTREBOUNDED 29-20.

You can play the slow players, but at least balance it out with some athleticism. If you’re playing Manny, play some Nwuli. If you’re playing Zrno, play some Dortch.
 

PSAL_Hoops

Heisman
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3 minutes from Dortch is ridiculous. If he’s healthy, I have no idea what Pike is doing. Same with Nwuli with 2 minutes. Especially when we’re being scorched from the outside. Manny’s “rim protection”, if you can call it that, is mitigated. AND WE STILL GOT OUTREBOUNDED 29-20.

You can play the slow players, but at least balance it out with some athleticism. If you’re playing Manny, play some Nwuli. If you’re playing Zrno, play some Dortch.

Did you watch the substitution pattern during the 3 minute stretch from Dortch? We were torched.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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IMO, the best way to beat a zone is to play inside out and force the double team. You can't play inside out when you have no inside.

Exactly - Tariq (and to a lesser extent Powers) are our “inside threats” outside of the defensive breakdowns that get Grant his back door lay ups. Grant has no post up skill or ability to beat anyone one on one down low.
 

Jerseylegends

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3 minutes from Dortch is ridiculous. If he’s healthy, I have no idea what Pike is doing. Same with Nwuli with 2 minutes. Especially when we’re being scorched from the outside. Manny’s “rim protection”, if you can call it that, is mitigated. AND WE STILL GOT OUTREBOUNDED 29-20.

You can play the slow players, but at least balance it out with some athleticism. If you’re playing Manny, play some Nwuli. If you’re playing Zrno, play some Dortch.
Not so sure playing dortch and nwuli significant minutes is the answer. Zrno is pretty much the only offensive threat besides Francis, Minnesota focused on making those two uncomfortable and that's all she wrote. Although Lino Mark is making me a believer in his ability to finish at the rim. Powers is growing as well...it's a severely limited roster..
 

mugrat86

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Dec 11, 2014
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3 minutes from Dortch is ridiculous. If he’s healthy, I have no idea what Pike is doing. Same with Nwuli with 2 minutes. Especially when we’re being scorched from the outside. Manny’s “rim protection”, if you can call it that, is mitigated. AND WE STILL GOT OUTREBOUNDED 29-20.

You can play the slow players, but at least balance it out with some athleticism. If you’re playing Manny, play some Nwuli. If you’re playing Zrno, play some Dortch.
Dortch is terrible
 

Scarlet Blind_rivals

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The glass half full positive take, the Minnesota zone actually forced the team to play as a team for once on offense.

23 assists on 24 made FGs(95.8%) is the best we've done as a team this year by a wide margin but it didn't help our bread and butter of drawing fouls and FTs on the opponent.

17/30 @ Wisconsin, 16/30 @ Penn St, 15/31 Lehigh, 14/23 Maine.

Now, can they build off that effort in the last 4 games despite the outcome.
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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Not so sure playing dortch and nwuli significant minutes is the answer. Zrno is pretty much the only offensive threat besides Francis, Minnesota focused on making those two uncomfortable and that's all she wrote. Although Lino Mark is making me a believer in his ability to finish at the rim. Powers is growing as well...it's a severely limited roster..

It’s not a “severely limited” offensive roster. Rather - it’s an offense that has a massive hole in the front court game which creates vulnerabilities against certain schemes. It’s most noticable on days when our outside shots aren’t falling early. The timing matters for us, because if teams are forced to extend the D to tighter to the perimeter Tariq can make them pay.

We’re not a great shooting team, but we’re not “awful” either. We have 6 guys shooting 33% of better from deep. We’re actually pretty decent vs. man coverage, especially against teams who don’t have elite on ball defenders. A competent (even average) offensive center or power forward would make a huge difference for the offense.

The D is simply a train wreck and makes the paper offensive metrics worse than they would otherwise be if we were even average at D. Just so few opportunities to push pace and score in transition before the D is set.

I will stick with what I said before the Minny game. I think our team would improve significantly on both ends by targeting enhancements to the D - especially front court. I think if we didn’t have to overplay interior coverage to avoid lay up line easy of scoring, we wouldn’t be as bad ith the perimeter D. Our holes make it a pick your poison type situation and Pike probably isn’t wrong with the strategy of thinking our best chance is a team going cold from deep. If we don’t overplay the interior, we can’t stop anyone down low.
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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The glass half full positive take, the Minnesota zone actually forced the team to play as a team for once on offense.

23 assists on 24 made FGs(95.8%) is the best we've done as a team this year by a wide margin but it didn't help our bread and butter of drawing fouls and FTs on the opponent.

17/30 @ Wisconsin, 16/30 @ Penn St, 15/31 Lehigh, 14/23 Maine.

Now, can they build off that effort in the last 4 games despite the outcome.

This was Tariq’s 4th straight game with 4 or more assists. He’s had 5+ assists in 4 of our last 6 games.
 

BillyC80

Heisman
Oct 23, 2006
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This was Tariq’s 4th straight game with 4 or more assists. He’s had 5+ assists in 4 of our last 6 games.
And that’s without an offensive threat at the 5 spot. The way Tariq draws defenders we should have more easy buckets underneath.