Tough conversation: is Allar good enough?
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Clifford took unnecessary criticism. He was a good and loyal QB to PSU. He proved a lot of people wrong when he was drafted.
After last week he was 35th in completion percentage, 88th in yards per completion, and 80th in QB rating. Today against an FCS team he went 16 for 29 with 209 yds 1 TD and 1 INT. Sure, let’s compare him to the best QBs in the NFL.
Cliff led PSU To a Rose Bowl victory. Some here feel like they deserved better. LOL
Cliff is the man in the arena. We’re just critics. I respect him for going in the arena and fighting to win for PSU.In his 10th year
Based on what, your desire for him not to?
Allar rarely makes mistakes throughout his career but you ignore that
Against Oregon, everyone should be trying to control the clock
And when you compare him to all the other guys getting drafted this year he's right there with them
Have you considered it's the offense these teams run--unlike others that keep everything basic because their QBs are capable
Levis was decent, but not great. Kentucky fans criticize him for all the same things many of our fans criticize Allar for. It’s too soon to tell with Beau, he wasn’t great today against a really poor opponent, but he didn’t have to be because they ran the ball well. So if you want to talk about AB development, we did fine developing McSorley and Clifford.
CJF continues to harp about explosive plays and TD to INT ratio. I thinks it's gotten in Allars head and has stunted his QB play.
Neither were great. Both were good but inconsistent and often bailed out by running. OSU fans used to say all mcsorely did was throw jump balls to Godwin and gesecki.
That's more or less true. He had elite guys that made contested catches. We haven't had that in a while from a WR.
Nobody is going to get it done with this offense. They preach explosive play bs but can't run 3rd and 1. The point that goes over this staffs head is a well executed short down play can result in an explosive long run. The second point is every 3rd down conversion gives the offense at least three more plays/opportunities for that long explosive play.
If we want to say the scheme isn't good enough I think you'd get less pushback. Allar is. Far worse QBs have won titles.
There's no excuse for our run game not to be far better than it is.
What is your goal? If the goal is to struggle and beat mid majors then this team is great. If the goal is to be national champ then forget it.
The main problem is the offense. The rbs and ol don't even look good. Rbs run into a wall of ol. Even Barkley had problems .
I said the scheme is the problem many times. Rbs run into a wall of OL. The blocking scheme is a problem.
To be fair, I have less losses to top 5 teams. Admittedly, I am not a good enough.
There was zero struggle today--we won by 46. He's good enough to win a title. 26-5 isn't misleading--it's very real.
The offense is an issue--plenty of time to fix that before the playoff--we can lose to Oregon without it truly mattering other than seeding--welcome to the world of the playoff where it's about improving.
Which is what I said, if we want to say that there won't be as much pushback--that's not the intent or topic of the thread though.
Allar has not been good enough. The RB room has not been good enough. The OL has not been good enough. The defense has had communication issues at times, so they're not good enough either. Yet.
There's usually room for hope. That said, if we play like we did last week and for parts of the first half, in particular, in two weeks we will be slapped around AGAIN by Oregon.
There's usually room for hope. That said, if we play like we did last week and for parts of the first half, in particular, in two weeks we will be slapped around AGAIN by Oregon.
Sorry, lol, I did miss the sarcasm. Please Accept my apology.
How many points has the starting defense allowed so far?
Honestly, the only thing I can think is that most people her only watch Penn State. Ohio State sleepwalked through the Ohio game today, we saw LSU/Georgia do that last week, Illinois was ungained in the first half today, the list goes on and on and on.
We have played like we're uninterested a lot of the time so far because, let's be honest, we didn't have to be focused to win.
If Oregon plays like they did against Northwestern today we'll win easily--it goes both ways
Why is every thread on here dominated by one poster? The McAndrew board traditionally doesn't allow this.
I completely support Allar - he’s a good kid and loyal to PSU. The reality is there is no evidence to date he is good enough to lead us to a natty. The consistency is not there. He struggled vs 3 low level opponents.
Drew is not a hard worker. Lack of preparation and poor execution = not a winner.
Drew rather wear ugly chains and get terrible haircuts.
Drew rather wear ugly chains and get terrible haircuts.
Yeah, like that matters. Penix, Travis, Milton, Daniels, Gabriel, Rattler, just a few of the 5th and 6th year guys. \In his 10th year
Meanwhile, how's that start Allar when he sets foot on campus thing working out? Or are we already on the Boo Hoo Beau's gone train?
Only a loss in two weeks away from the start Gronk bandwagon?
After 3 weeks I don't see how one can deny any of this. When you say "not good enough"....I'm assuming you mean to beat Oregon or Ohio State.
I am reminded of a time as a young coach I attended a football clinic in Atlantic City. The clinician was Lee Corso. I believe he was HC at Indiana at the time and everyone wanted to hear him.....because he was hilarious even then. He said "the good news is we have 37 lettermen returning from last season. The BAD news is we have 37 lettermen returning from last season." (the team was like 3-8)
So the media hype was centered on returning production and assuming .....all will be better than before. That isn't automatic, is it?
There is good reason every fan should take a "show me" attitude.
Right now, it think it's fair to say this team looks like a 10-2 or 9-3 team. The horror!
My experience and intuition tells me that we will see a different mind set versus Oregon. That could make an incredible difference.
There is a difference in attitude one has between getting out of bed and going to work on a Monday Morning.........and jumping out of bed as a 5 year old on Christmas Morning. Will that propel this team to actual NC level achievements? Show me.
would you trade Drew for Arch Manning?
I wouldn't
let's not surrender just yet
I wouldn't
let's not surrender just yet
Imagine a world where one needed to wait till the season ends to form an opinion? LOL
I wonder if all those articles that touted Manning as a top draft pick or even Allar as a 1st round talent, were based on intel from NFL types?
If so, does anyone here believe that those evalutions would change after just 3 games?
So many here bought the NC or bust mantra. Common sense will always bet the field.
You don't know that Drew doesn't work hard.
He isn’t consistent enough. The Drew from the 2nd half of the USC game, the Oregon game, and the Boise game is good enough. The Drew from the last two weeks and Notre Dame is not even close to good enough.
Here’s hoping he shows up on the 27th with the same mindset he displayed the last time he faced Oregon. I’ll take a couple INTs if he plays aggressively and decisively
Here’s hoping he shows up on the 27th with the same mindset he displayed the last time he faced Oregon. I’ll take a couple INTs if he plays aggressively and decisively