Tough conversation: is Allar good enough?
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Why is Allar the key? It's clearly scheme
I disagree that Kaytron looks better. He looks the same which is a win
Nope.Are there any?
It's a shame. We have all these studs returning. And they all suck. They'll probably suck as National Champs and future successful pros, too.
We're the worst best team ever.
So I guess the QB is not key to anything. All AKs fault, LOL.
The system is good enough to reach the National Semi Finals and finish top 5 in the nation (proven) but that's where it hits the brick wall?
In the new playoff era the most important thing is to get in. Attain a good seed, stay healthy and peak late.
Can't you read? WE DESERVE BETTER3-0, ranked #2, outscored opponents 132-17. 5-star starting QB who is awful. 5-star senior RB who is awful.
52 points against Villanova. Must have been 15 field goals, one defensive TUDDIE..
How did you forgot a coach who is AWFUL?
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The QB is often to blame. Allar can and needs to play better as do many other guys. He's not the primary issue though nor close to it.
This is like when people blame the goalie in hockey. They just don't know better.
Allen isn't faster. Reynolds is better based on what? Being given a chance?
Are we sure the WRs are better or just hopeful?
Never said he didn't. Everyone does to win a title. That wasn't the question. He's more than good enough and isn't the primary issue or even near the top
To answer the question the thread topic asks, he has been good enough to get the team to 3-0. I don’t think his level of play will be good enough to beat Oregon but the defense looks damn good so maybe it will be. I definitely don’t think he’s been good enough to win a national championship. Most importantly, I think he’s good enough to play a lot better than he has so far.
So you actually believe Reynolds has not improved one bit since last season? Got it. Kaytron does not look faster? Got it. You are now just being disagreeable to hold on to your point that Allar's play is not concerning and lumping his bad play into the wash as no worse than anyone.
Allen has been really good since the SMU game, and Reynolds has AA and future high NFL draft pick written all over him.
We haven't utilized the RPO nor the Zone Read aspects of AKs offense YET THIS SEASON.
Allar did keep the ball some last year. He has yet to keep it this year. Until we see what we try at Oregon, it's insufficiently data. The fact remains that we ran the same pass route 7-10 times vs Villanova. (Outside WR Go, Slot WR Out) Does anybody really believe AK shucked the playbook from '24? We have seen more. And we saw less during this 3 game stretch.
I don't believe that AKs offense is a round hole and Allar a squad peg. I do think defenses are getting so fast and athletic that a QB has to be mobile now more than ever, but also has to be able to throw. I also think we could run our TEs (particular Reynolds) up the seam all game and not be stopped the last 3 games.
Regardless, the same people will spout the same lines win or lose. It's kinda what we do.
Of course I'd rather be 3-0. That's a dumb question. That said I'm confident that we would also be 3-0 with Grunkenmeyer or Pribula.
I think the spin is to dismiss Allar's early season performance and poor QBR. It's not a good sign that he's struggling against very weak competition. Let's hope things improve.
I suspect Allar was told to limit his running in the first 3 games to avoid injury. I expect some designed running plays for Allar vs Oregon.
What have you seen that indicates improvement? He's only getting opportunities.
Kaytron doesn't look faster. He's still the same great back as before.
Reynolds or Kaytron being better wouldn't have any impact on if Allar's play was concerning
Both of those statements were true. Allen has been the better back the entire time he's been here. Reynolds lack opportunity because Warren is better. Them being good isn't new or surprising.
No, you’re doing it all wrong. Grunk is the back up QB, but he is obviously better than the starter. You have to wait until Grunk is the starter then you start hating him. At this point Grunk’s back up will obviously be better and then you start calling for him to start. Repeat though infinity.
I hope so because we need it. If he is no threat to run it then the D doesn't even have to pay attention to him.
I thought that was a good wrinkle. They had been running Pena in the slot and Ross outside primarily. I noticed they started flipping them vs Villanova. I'd have to go back and check the film to see where Ross was lined up, but they had been running the gadget plays to Pena through 2 weeks.
I think we should be running plays like this more with Ross and Pena (and very likely Denmark and Howard). Of course, I don't think the plan was to spam these plays just for the sake of getting yards. The plan seemed to be to work on the down field passing rhythm.
They have both improved. Just because Reynolds didn't have opportunities last season doesn't mean he has not improved. Of course you are at off season workouts and practices and know he has not improved.
According to ESPN:
1. Jeremiyah Love
2. Nicholas Singleton
3. Kaytron Allen
4. Makhi Hughes
5. Isaac Brown
And thats in the nation, not the Big…so I’d say I’m pretty close.
You're stating he's improved based on what? Using this logic everyone has improved. They're all working hard.
You're stating he has not improved based on what? You have no idea.
Here's one for you....has Allar improved? Spin this one...we are all waiting.
No Allar hasn't shown any improvement...we haven't played anyone yet where you're going to see improvement. How they perform against real competition will dictate that.
Allen looks faster...against slower competition. Doesn't mean he's not a great back
Reynolds is doing exactly what one would reasonable expect. His only issue last year was a lack of opportunity.
Saying someone hasn't improved through 3 scrimmages isn't an insult.
Drew's problems have more to do with the amount of time it takes him to make a read.... and the quality of the read he ultimately makes... then AK. The play last Saturday where Drew butchered his read directly off the snap (Kyron Hudson ran a Flag Pattern from the left-slot and immediately broke open and was running by himself 15 yards behind the closest defender as the Villanova secondary blew their matchup coverage assignments), then took forever to go through additional reads in a panicked fashion to the point where he began to feel pressure, when the ball should have been out long prior (it had zero to do with the OL or pressure) and then he finally chooses to throw it to the TE on the sideline where the defender has near insurmountable inside-out leverage was a MICROCOSM of Drew's problems at QB.
Drew's best throw of the entire game is also instructive - the throw to Trebor Pena running a Skinny Post just prior to halftime. Drew made the CORRECT read off the snap, saw that Pena had "inside leverage" on the DB (i.e., advantage receiver on a Skinny Post) - he immediately committed to the correct throw (a heater), got the ball out quickly.... made a great throw and threw a TD pass.
Against Oregon, Drew is going to need to take off after 3 to 4 seconds in the pocket if he has not committed to something.... he should keep his eyes downfield and throw on the move if something breaks open, but he has to stop sitting in the pocket with happy feet and patting the ball for an eternity until pressure develops.... and then throwing extremely late to 3rd and 4th reads that are no longer open by the time he throws it. If Drew takes off after 3 or 4 seconds, it will put far more pressure on the defense as he now has the addition option of threatening the defense by just continuing to run which often will allow receivers to break open late as the defense breaks down trying to address the QB in the open field.
In essence, Drew does not "extend plays" like great QBs do, but rather just "delays" plays/reads with no meaningful improvement.
Drew's best throw of the entire game is also instructive - the throw to Trebor Pena running a Skinny Post just prior to halftime. Drew made the CORRECT read off the snap, saw that Pena had "inside leverage" on the DB (i.e., advantage receiver on a Skinny Post) - he immediately committed to the correct throw (a heater), got the ball out quickly.... made a great throw and threw a TD pass.
Against Oregon, Drew is going to need to take off after 3 to 4 seconds in the pocket if he has not committed to something.... he should keep his eyes downfield and throw on the move if something breaks open, but he has to stop sitting in the pocket with happy feet and patting the ball for an eternity until pressure develops.... and then throwing extremely late to 3rd and 4th reads that are no longer open by the time he throws it. If Drew takes off after 3 or 4 seconds, it will put far more pressure on the defense as he now has the addition option of threatening the defense by just continuing to run which often will allow receivers to break open late as the defense breaks down trying to address the QB in the open field.
In essence, Drew does not "extend plays" like great QBs do, but rather just "delays" plays/reads with no meaningful improvement.
The same source has psu ranked #2 in the nation. Are they accurate ? Maybe the couch coaches know better.
ESPN also had arch manning and klubnick as pre season all Americans
I've never seen people overreact this much after 2 games
We're still 2 as we should be