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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Bell Tolls for Thee" data-source="post: 132451145" data-attributes="member: 1812660">That still doesn't answer the question.  What is the point you are trying to make?  Mine is clear.  Your actions, be it intentional malice or reckless stupidity, should carry the same moral judgement regardless of outcome.  I try to give examples because too many fail to understand this simple concept.  Hence... If I try to kill someone without just cause and fail, for whatever reason, I should still be judged morally as a murderer.  Even if by criminal standards I cannot be charged as a murderer.  Agree?  Yes or no?If yes, it woud then follow that if I do something far beyond the average in terms of reckless stupidity and avoid killing someone, I should still be judged morally as someone who commits manslaughter or negligent homicide.</blockquote>