Transfer rule - This would be stupid
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Conference only would be kind of dumb. Go to the Big 10 or Big 12 and play immediately.
It’s kind of dumb but doesn’t it benefit us? I feel like we lose more of our good players within conference, and I feel like we can compete easier with nonSEC schools (not financially will all of them but the overall financial + location dynamic). May open us more opportunity to find diamonds in the rough and develop players and/or hold on to our stars
Maybe, but I applaud the effort to try to restore sanity. You hate to see a good player bolt to a different conference, but there's something sickening about seeing a guy play for one SEC school and then play against that team at his new SEC school the year after. State has been on both ends of that and, while I appreciate the guys who came here, I still find the whole thing gross. I appreciate the league taking steps to stop the mercenaries from staying close to home.
we have done really well with kids from SEC schools. Yeah we have lost a few but some of that was the OL where we seems to just have bigger issues. The best player we lost went to the Big 12. Feels like this would be a huge win for other conferences. Because if kids want to transfer they are probably gonna do it.
I think it's going to be year to year. We will keep some players we otherwise would have lost. We'll no longer be competitive for players leaving Alabama, UGA, LSU, etc. I feel like historically we have not done well with transfers from other SEC schools (Prudhomme is an obvious exception this year) so it may be a good thing for us on net? But I'm not positive.
There's also a possibility that it will hurt us with high school recruits. If they want the opportunity for a big payday if they show out, going to an SEC school means many of the best paying programs will be out of the running if and when they want to transfer. I don't think that will be a big deal. Will there be many recruits that would choose say Houston or Baylor or TCU or OK St or UCF just to keep the option of transferring to a blud blood SEC later? Maybe it'd be more likely that we lose players to FSU, Ga Tech, Clemson, or Louisville? Plus, even if there are several of those, I don't know that we really want players that are making decisions based on being able to cash in at an SEC blueblood if they perform.
Ant , Ragins, Bledsoe, Reed, Jalen, Dolby…we have filled our starting lineup with sec players. And then of course Brennan last year.
But it also means the pool of players sec schools can recruit shrinks so competition is even tougher. Imagine OM can’t get Lacy anymore so now they get in a bidding war for fluff.
I'm quite fond of Anthony Evans.
It's a double edged sword.
It's a double edged sword.
Either get the other P4 conferences to agree on it or don’t do it. Just puts SEC at a disadvantage compared to the other 3 conferences .
I was thinking the exact opposite. This is AI, so take it with a grain of salt, but to me it looks like it will help us on net, although I think players we lost to Missouri probably would have generally been willing to go to non-sec schools? On the other hand, this year seems like the first year we've really gotten meaningful contributions from players from other SEC schools, so maybe that we would be able to keep that up and it iwll hurt us more than it looks.
What we lost:
- Jack Abraham, QB → Missouri (2022). Brief stop after concussion issues in Starkville.
- Zavion Thomas, WR → LSU (after 2023). Return specialist and receiver; went home to Louisiana. Caught 42 passes for 507 yards in two years at State.
- Percy Lewis, OT → Auburn (after 2023). In line to start; 25 games and 8 starts at State.
- Steven Losoya, OL → Vanderbilt (after 2023). Started all 12 games at right guard in 2023. Began at Middle Tennessee, not as an SEC recruit.
- Marlon Martinez, OL → LSU (2024 cycle).
- Michael Van Buren Jr., QB → LSU (after 2024). Started eight games as a freshman after Blake Shapen’s shoulder injury (1,886 yards, 11 TDs, 7 INTs).
- Kevin Coleman Jr., WR → Missouri (after 2024). Team’s leading receiver (74 catches, 932 yards, 6 TDs), All-SEC third team. Came from Louisville, then went home to Missouri.
- Mario Craver, WR → Texas A&M (after 2024). Second on the team in receiving yards per game as a freshman; later produced at A&M (47 catches, 781 yards, 4 TDs in 2025).
- Trent Hudson, WR → Vanderbilt (after 2024).
- Tony Mitchell, S → Ole Miss (25 tackles, 3 starts);
- Kedrick Bingley-Jones, DL → Alabama (starter, 25 tackles);
- Jayvin James, OT → Alabama (12 starts);
- Zack Owens, OL → Missouri (starting guard);
- Luke Work, OL → Missouri;
- Cyrus Reyes, S → Kentucky (mostly special teams).
What we gained:
- Stone Blanton, LB, from South Carolina (2024). Started every game and led the team with 125 tackles.
- Malick Sylla, edge, from Texas A&M (2025). Three seasons and 33 games in College Station.
- Darron Reed, DL, from Auburn (2025). Former top-100 recruit, limited snaps.
- Jaray Bledsoe, DL, and Derion Gullette, LB, from Texas (2025). Texas was already in the SEC by then. Both former four-stars.
- Koby Keenum, OL, from Kentucky (2025 class). Later left State for Memphis.
- Marquis Johnson, WR, from Missouri (1,000-plus career receiving yards);
- DJ Chester, OL, from LSU (14 starts at center in 2024);
- Jardin Gilbert, S, from LSU (previously Texas A&M; 24 career starts);
- Tyler Miller, OT, from LSU (Laurel, Miss., product);
- Dealyn Evans, DL, from Texas A&M;
- LJ Prudhomme, OL, from Arkansas;
- Jamroc Grimsley, CB, from Florida;
- Zion Ragins, WR,
- Isaiah Autry-Dent, OL,
- Kendel Dolby, S.
No offense to AI but that list is It doesn’t even have Brennan or Ant on there. But most Kids that want to leave are gonna leave. Thats the issue. So it likely doesn’t slow the exits much. And again it ignores the fact that the pool of players sec schools can go after shrinks. Which is absolutely bad for us.
Jack was a walkon never played here or at mizz
Martinez transferred here from LSU
I hate this rule. Let’s say we finished second to a kid that went to bama lsu or wherever. Maybe they are from Mississippi and want to come back home. This rule hurts us worse than helps
No that’s just your assumption. We have held on to those who we wanted. We brought back a good many this offseason that signed OOS out of HS . But I’m guessing you don’t keep up with recruiting
I actually think this may help us. We need to be taking our transfers from G6 anyway. And I’m pretty certain we lose the most to other SEC teams.
Of course the other SEC teams will also start raiding G6 as well. But maybe they’ll aim for P4.
Of course the other SEC teams will also start raiding G6 as well. But maybe they’ll aim for P4.
This assumes kids won’t transfer bc they can’t go to a sec school. I don’t think that holds. This rule is bad for us
Again the other issue is it shrinks the pool of players sec teams can recruit from. Like the example I gave. OM can’t get Lacy so now they are bidding on Fluff. Bad. Bad. Bad. For us.
Yeah that’s what I meant when I said they’d also go after where we are crootin. I honestly just wish this shlt would stabilize so we can start strategizing
There’s 2 sides of it. If SEC was to implement this rule, there would at least be more continuity and depth of league teams than in other conferences. It will probably just lead to more godfather 3-year and 4-year NIL deals in order to promote those things. Not necessarily an uncompetitive compensation compared to other leagues.
The SEC was king when they just had way more depth on the OL and DL than everyone else. All that has gone bye bye with NIL, and everyone is paper thin compared to before. Yeah, they may lose a straggler here and there to the B1G, but they’ll gain transfers from B1G teams, too. There’s not really any argument to be made that intraconference transfers have helped the SEC as a whole. Having neighboring schools bid against each other is generally just bad for business further down all the rosters in the league.
Whatever the case may be, the SEC has to try something different, because they are just getting smoked by the B1G in this laissez faire environment.
It won’t help the league. If kids are buried on the depth chart they will still leave for the most part. This would be a huge deal for the other conferences
This won’t help the sec start beating big 10 in the playoffs. It’s just going to make the big 10 better. If this had been the rule a couple years ago Anthony Evans is probably in the big 10 today.
But if kids are buried on a depth chart but still getting paid, they won’t. They’ll ride it out.
Think about these two scenarios:
Scenario 1:
MSU WR has a breakout sophomore season. LSU just lost 3 WR’s to the draft, and wants him. MSU and LSU bid against each other until LSU takes him for $2 million. MSU backs out at $1.5 million. But, MSU has feelers out and are able to land Kentucky’s leading returning receiver for $1.5 million. Kentucky has a new offense with lots of 12 personnel so this guy prefers Lebby. But they are able to find a WR from Toledo they like almost as much for $700k. Another one from Minnesota was also interested, but he had a Big 12 offer for $1.2 million.
In total, three SEC schools spend a combined $4.2 million. 3 different players are changing offenses and having to learn a new system. Net talent gain to the league is one G6 player joins an SEC roster.
Scenario 2: LSU is able to outbid Texas Tech for their top returning WR who has an even higher draft projection than the MSU WR. They land him for $2.2 million.
One player changes teams and learns a new offense. $2.2 million is spent by league teams. The net talent gain to the league is a high NFL draft pick WR from another power conference.
Scenario 1 is currently happening in spades all across the league, and its incredibly inefficient for the league as a whole. Promotes instability. Very definition of a house being divided against itself. Doesn’t add talent to league rosters on the scale that could be added if SEC teams started targeting more players externally.
Scenario 2 being the only option for immediate roster rebuilds takes a lot of guesswork out of the equation for roster management, and promotes efficient use of resources. Again, something has to change. The SEC is getting killed in this environment, and the answer is not to just outspend the B1G because that will never be possible.
Thats way too much too read. You are the only person that see this as anything but the sec kneecapping itself
Or scenario 3. LSU can’t bid on the MSU receiver so settles for a Texas tech receiver. Penn st outbids MSU for the MSU receiver and Michigan takes the Kentucky receiver.
Maybe I am. But what you’re missing is that the SEC has already kneecapped itself by helping pave the way to the only path imaginable that could remove them from dominance. And the current path they are on is not going to allow them to ever get back there again. Something has to change.
All 3 schools have more money to bid against the B1G if they aren’t also having to bid against themselves. That is the point. Basic economics.
If you look at the current transfer portal / NIL era, see that the majority of all impact transfers on SEC teams are from other SEC teams. Then notice that at the EXACT same time that started…..even the best SEC teams became unable to even sniff a national title or even a CFP semifinal game. It’s pretty easy to connect the dots.
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I mean yeah, by all means, let’s let the guy who was trying to sign NFL players and poached tons of his own former players after leaving his old job be the one to set conference policy regarding this issue****
He is neither wrong nor right. He’s just giving an opinion based on very partial, static information. And his opinion has many potentially faulty assumptions behind it.
The thing here is that it’s being discussed in a vacuum, like nothing else would adjust to support this in the SEC. It’s also being presented as something that would suddenly be shoved down everyone’s throat immediately without any type of an adjustment period. If that were the case, then yeah, it would be very detrimental in the short term.
But what would actually happen if the league approved it would be this. It would be set to start in like 2028 or 2029, to give teams time to adjust their roster and NIL agreements beforehand. And because portal recruits and high school recruits would have less transfer flexibility within the SEC, they would all command lucrative multi-year NIL and revenue share agreements as an offset to ensure they keep a competitive pay structure year-over-year. This is the defense against B1G poaching.
Of course, coaches like Kiffin hate this, because they’d have to go back to the old days of doing stringent player evals and in-person recruiting, and they couldn’t afford to miss nearly as much as they can now….specifically with high school recruits. And they couldn’t afford to just jettison dozens of players per year to make room for the next round of one-year fill-ins.
Like others have pointed out if no one else goes by that rule then you’re putting SEC teams at a disadvantage. It certainly doesn’t help Mississippi State.
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