Trick plays
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Mullen is a terrible trick play coach.
Great trick plays are quick plays that have the defense leaning the wrong way. Mullen’s all take too long to develop
For whatever reason, since Mullen has been here, we can’t run trick plays and we also can’t defend them. It’s a disconnect with a coach that is all about executing a basic offense and defense.
He’s an excellent coach. Just terrible at this one element.
Todd did not listen to all of the instuctions
If the receiver is covered,
throw it away.
Nothing wrong with the play.
If the receiver is covered,
throw it away.
Nothing wrong with the play.
Agree the first time. But when you consistently look brain dead when trick plays are involved in the game, it insinuates that maybe the communication isn’t right in how we teach them.
I seem to recall Dak catching some TDs on several trick plays. And I recall several throughout that have worked.
They just don’t always work. And his fake punts so rarely work out (has he has a successful one?) it influences this opinion.
They just don’t always work. And his fake punts so rarely work out (has he has a successful one?) it influences this opinion.
Maybe.... Yeah... Ross threw a few TDs and Lewis threw atleast one. But I can't recall a fake punt working.
Yes but all those were against non conference cupcakes. I can’t remember one executed correctly against a conference opponent or in a close game.
Complete problem with the play. One score lead and you are
Moving it on the ground.
Early in the game or short yardage late. Ala LSU game.
Trick plays don’t always look like trick plays.
Yeah, the Lewis throw back to Dak was usually successful, but totally unnecessary.
Also remember that Todd has only been playing football for about 3 years. Not exactly the highest football IQ guy regardless of how talented.
Why ask him to do that?
EXACTLY!
Throw it away if your guy is not wide open. Didn't help that our receivers NEVER fight for the ball if it is not in their breadbasket. The receiver has to make sure the DB doesn't catch it if he does it.
Plus, there was no need for the play to be called either.
Dam caught a touchdown pass against Kentucky in 2013. Fred Ross also threw a TD pass against South Carolina last year. Those are the only two I can remember working against an SEC team.
I think (hope) that you are missing something. On the play Saturday, Fitz floated out to the other side of the field but stayed behind the line of scrimmage. I think that on Saturday you will see that same play again but this time Fitz will be 30 yards down the opposite sideline, standing all by himself for the catch.
I think that play was never supposed to work; it's just a set up for next week.
Or maybe I give us too much credit. Haha
I think that play was never supposed to work; it's just a set up for next week.
Or maybe I give us too much credit. Haha
If we run that play this week, Todd will be gang tackled before he even looks downfield.
i agree it was a terrible time to run that, as we were pounding it on that drive. That said, it did look to me as if it was wide open, and Todd just over-threw it.
Mullen has nothing to do with it. We have NEVER been any good at trick plays...no matter the coach. Just part of our DNA.
I don't remember which way the wind was blowing... I guess it swirls around some anyway inside a stadium. But looked to me like that one got caught up and blown around some by the wind. He got some hangtime on that one.
I hated the call considering how well we'd been running the ball during the 3rd quarter.
I hated the call considering how well we'd been running the ball during the 3rd quarter.
We have a truck play that we run almost every game. It worked against LSU, and it worked against Kentucky. It was somewhat successful against A&M. It worked in the egg bowl last year. It's where Fitz sprints out like it's a QB run and all the wideouts set up to block, and then one runs by the safety after he crashes. Against LSU there was nobody within 30 yards of the receiver. Against Ole Miss...it was the back breaker in that game and Dear was the one who caught it.
Mullen is creative with gadgets and they work more often than they don't. Many don't recognize gadget plays though.
Mullen is creative with gadgets and they work more often than they don't. Many don't recognize gadget plays though.
That’s not really a trick play, no more than the jump pass on the end zone is a trick play.
If anything, it’s just an extended run fake.
It is most definitely a trick play. Just because it doesn't have a double end around WR pass in it doesn't make it an "extended run fake." By definition a trick play is run to trick the defense, not the fans.
So every successful play action pass that works is a trick play? Because it tricked the defense into thinking it was a run?
It’s not a trick play at all.
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Lol can you not give a rebuttal? Or should we all assume you’re just super smart and couldn’t begin to break down the intricacies of trick plays for all us common folk to understand?
I guess when I think of trick plays, there’s some laterals, passes across the field behind the line of scrimmage, reverses, etc.
I guess by definition, play action and draw plays can be considered trick plays. Doesn’t seem like the overall perception of it tho.
I guess by definition, play action and draw plays can be considered trick plays. Doesn’t seem like the overall perception of it tho.
I generally hate the term "trick plays."
There are just plays. Some are them are just more complex or more unusual than others.
Spoiler Alert: The whole idea of football is to use the players on the field to move the ball into the end zone. As long as it's within the rules, how you do that doesn't matter.
Based on the way some of you define trick plays, the zone read was a trick play when it was first introduced 20 or so years ago.
There are just plays. Some are them are just more complex or more unusual than others.
Spoiler Alert: The whole idea of football is to use the players on the field to move the ball into the end zone. As long as it's within the rules, how you do that doesn't matter.
Based on the way some of you define trick plays, the zone read was a trick play when it was first introduced 20 or so years ago.
I have given you a rebuttal. You have shown that I am wasting my time. But yes, a play action pass, or even a simple counter play, is a trick play that works if it tricks the linebacker or safety. That's why it's designed as such...to trick the defense. Using your analogy that the play I referred to is just an "extended run fake" or whatever you said, the same can be said for just about any gadget play.
You're a typical armchair QB who bemoans why we don't run enough flea flickers, fake punts, or triple reverse passes, and then criticize Mullen when we do and they fail.
Huh? Lmao I was the one saying how we’ve ran successful trick plays before in this thread. Stop looking like a dumbass and assuming what I “bemoan”
Nothing wrong with the play itself. Everything wrong with the personnel (asking your young, lightly experienced WR who's been playing football period for barely 3 years to be the trigger man) and the timing (why call that when you're rolling on that drive with your normal offense)?
Just looked at it again, in particular the replay. "The Reverend" was open by a mile. He was running a route toward the sideline, clearly expecting a ball thrown to the outside around the UMass 25. The UMass defender was not within 3 yards, but Todd lofted it too much, and it sailed to the UMass 16 instead, and less toward the sideline, thus giving the UMass defender time to recover.
Bottom line, Todd made a piss-poor throw, putting it in about the only place the UMass defender could have got to it. There was no need to "throw it away". It was wide-*** open. Just needed to drop it in somewhere between the UMass 30 and 20, and outside the numbers, and that would have been an easy, uncontested catch.
Bottom line, Todd made a piss-poor throw, putting it in about the only place the UMass defender could have got to it. There was no need to "throw it away". It was wide-*** open. Just needed to drop it in somewhere between the UMass 30 and 20, and outside the numbers, and that would have been an easy, uncontested catch.
He ran a few successful ones with Dak, but other than those, he's failed miserably at running and defending them.
I've been waiting on a fake FG to be run against us.
I've been waiting on a fake FG to be run against us.
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