Trick plays

[FQDawg]

Had this discussion with a friend at work and am curious what other opinions might be... in football, what make a play a "trick play?"

Is it rarity (like a flea flicker)? Is it an intent to disguise what you're doing (like a Statue of Liberty or a throw back to the QB)?

An end-around (or reverse) used to be considered a trick play but it's not all that different from a jet sweep, which is a pretty standard play these days. So, where's the line between a play and a trick play?

 

[theoriginalSALTYdog]

Had this discussion with a friend at work and am curious what other opinions might be... in football, what make a play a "trick play?"

Is it rarity (like a flea flicker)? Is it an intent to disguise what you're doing (like a Statue of Liberty or a throw back to the QB)?

An end-around (or reverse) used to be considered a trick play but it's not all that different from a jet sweep, which is a pretty standard play these days. So, where's the line between a play and a trick play?

Has Leach ever used a trick play in his life? I haven't seen one in the 3 years he's been here.

 

[johnson86-1]

Had this discussion with a friend at work and am curious what other opinions might be... in football, what make a play a "trick play?"

Is it rarity (like a flea flicker)? Is it an intent to disguise what you're doing (like a Statue of Liberty or a throw back to the QB)?

An end-around (or reverse) used to be considered a trick play but it's not all that different from a jet sweep, which is a pretty standard play these days. So, where's the line between a play and a trick play?

I am tempted to say it depends on whether it needs to surprise the defense in order for it to be successful. So a play action pass is trying to "trick" the defense, but it is still a normally blocked play. I think a flea flicker doesn't work if you don't surprise the defense. Takes too much time. I also think that explains the difference between a jet sweep or otherwise handing the ball off from the QB to a HB or slot and a "true" reverse. Somebody just crosses the QB and get it, not a trick play? But if you hand it to the RB or have the QB sweep one way or the other before handing it to a WR, then it's a trick play?

Not sure that distinction really works, but that's my first thought.

 

[Cantdoitsal]

I've always thought the half back pass is not used enough. I think it could be utilized with shorter throws in an efficient manner. Like with a TE who lines up and initially reacts after the snap in full run block mode.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

Has Leach ever used a trick play in his life? I haven't seen one in the 3 years he's been here.

That’s probably a good thing. Do trick plays ever work for us? I don’t remember one being successful here.

 

[AlCoDog]

That’s probably a good thing. Do trick plays ever work for us? I don’t remember one being successful here.

Think Jameon Lewis hit Dak one time for 6.

 

[mcdawg22]

Had this discussion with a friend at work and am curious what other opinions might be... in football, what make a play a "trick play?"

Is it rarity (like a flea flicker)? Is it an intent to disguise what you're doing (like a Statue of Liberty or a throw back to the QB)?

An end-around (or reverse) used to be considered a trick play but it's not all that different from a jet sweep, which is a pretty standard play these days. So, where's the line between a play and a trick play?

I’d say any play designed to have more than 2 people handle the ball or any “unusual” deception ie Fumblerooskie, Statue Of Liberty, fake kick

 

[mcdawg22]

That’s probably a good thing. Do trick plays ever work for us? I don’t remember one being successful here.

HB pass to Madkin at South Carolina.

 

[Boom Boom]

I've always thought the half back pass is not used enough. I think it could be utilized with shorter throws in an efficient manner. Like with a TE who lines up and initially reacts after the snap in full run block mode.

I'm thinking a triple option. Rollout QB and RB like a "typical" option run, but flood that side with the WRs and TE(s) and have the third option be a throw. Could even direct snap to the RB (lined up to opposite side) and have the QB be the option runner. Dak would be deadly with that play. With a D dropping 8, should be a couple receivers open, as a couple DBs should find themselves away from the play on the opposite side.

 

[FQDawg]

I’d say any play designed to have more than 2 people handle the ball or any “unusual” deception ie Fumblerooskie, Statue Of Liberty, fake kick

That's kind of my thought, too. It's like the Supreme Court definition of porn. I may not be able to define it but I know it when I see it.

 

[johnson86-1]

That's kind of my thought, too. It's like the Supreme Court definition of porn. I may not be able to define it but I know it when I see it.

Well, at least after lots of research.

 

[patdog]

Can’t really define it, but I know it when I see it. And I know that over the last 40+ years of watching Mississippi State football we are the absolute worst program in the country at executing them.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Anything Bobby Bowden did in a critical situation,
He was the master of trick plays.

 

[vhdawg]

Think Jameon Lewis hit Dak one time for 6.

Dak caught at least two touchdowns.....I remember one at South Alabama and another one at home.

 

[Hugh's Burner Phone]

Well, at least after lots of research.

"Research"

 

[L4MANDW]

That’s probably a good thing. Do trick plays ever work for us? I don’t remember one being successful here.

Memory’s not so good but wasn’t it that ‘14 Auburn game when Dan tried a fake punt that just turned into a total disaster?

 

[STATEgrad04]

Has Leach ever used a trick play in his life? I haven't seen one in the 3 years he's been here.

Well...He has started running it more. Could be considered a trick play for Leach.

 

[BKCBully]

Jameon Lewis was 4-4 108 yards and 4 tds

 

[MaxwellSmart]

Wasn't hiring Croom a trick play that was a disaster?

 

[TXDawg.sixpack]

Has Leach ever used a trick play in his life? I haven't seen one in the 3 years he's been here.

I think he ran the “Hide the Midget” play at least once at WSU. Ive always been surprised that he hasn’t pulled that play out with one of our smaller backs.

 

[Baddmann]

Every time we run the ball we call that a "Leach trick play"