Nice discourse, but you avoided the tenants of my post (questions)? I (nor anyone else that I see) advocate eliminating research funding/ I have been there and know that a lot of the money so allocated is not leading to knowledge advancement. Some of the studies could be eliminated and no one would really notice (except for a very, very small fringe group of folks). even in the areas we all might consider valued there is a lot of research funding that goes to folks who do nearly nothing creative or inventive and, probably, should not be part of a research program. Many faculty use research funding to support them and allow them to avoid (or at least diminish) their teaching duties. Students attend a certain University because of the 'renowned' faculty and ,yet, these folks never interact with those students. The hired help (grad students) carry on the teaching (such that it is in many cases) and ale do little in the away of meaning investigation to earn the stipend they derive from the research grants. Much money could be, and should be, saved and directed toward meaningful production. This is what I said, and you avoided anything close to an intelligent discussion of these facts. You went off to the infinite limit rather than address practicality.Nice spin,. but meaningless discourse.