Trump being trolled

atlkvb

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="countryroads89, post: 1435286, member: 5410"]he will lose his **** over this. I bet he stomps, cries and tweets.

countryroads89 with all due respect this is trivial.

I have posted on this board today Trump's strategy designed to fix inner cities and asked you or anyone on the Left for a response or an alternative that will work better?

You constantly berate him, call him "stupid", indicate he is "dumb", think he doesn't know what he's doing, yet he is engaged in a strategic plan to systematically dismantle support among the Left's most important and reliable voting block... and you're worried about this nonsense?

Don't do me any favors, but if you care about your side's political viability, I suggest you pay closer attention to what Trump's up to with Black folks, especially you since you seemed to be so concerned about us being wiped out by an avowed racist.

(Isn't that why you said I voted against my own interests voting for Trump?)
 
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torontoeers

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countryroads89 with all due respect this is trivial.

I have posted on this board today Trump's strategy designed to fix inner cities and asked you or anyone on the Left for a response or an alternative that will work better?

You constantly berate him, call him "stupid", indicate he is "dumb", think he doesn't know what he's doing, yet he is engaged in a strategic plan to systematically dismantle support among the Left's most important and reliable voting block... and you're worried about this nonsense?

Don't do me any favors, but if you care about your side's political viability, I suggest you pay closer attention to what Trump's up to with Black folks, especially you since you seemed to be so concerned about us being wiped out by an avowed racist.

(Isn't that why you said I voted against my own interests voting for Trump?)
atlkvb...with all due respect. You didn't comment on my NAFTA and bi-lateral trade query (actually only 82 did with a bunch of links, lol). I imagine this does matter to you? I sure hope it does. Perhaps you are not well versed in the aspects of international trade and that is just fine too... IMO it will shape the 3 nations for the foreseeable future. Perhaps country is well versed in the nuts and bolts of your query, and perhaps not. Perhaps he doesn't care...who knows...I tend to post on topics that have generated some curiosity in me or I would like to talk about because they matter to me a fair amount...of course I am trying to yank your chain a bit here....but that is what it's all about a lot of the time :wink:
 

atlkvb

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atlkvb...with all due respect. You didn't comment on my NAFTA and bi-lateral trade query (actually only 82 did with a bunch of links, lol). I imagine this does matter to you? I sure hope it does. Perhaps you are not well versed in the aspects of international trade and that is just fine too... IMO it will shape the 3 nations for the foreseeable future. Perhaps country is well versed in the nuts and bolts of your query, and perhaps not. Perhaps he doesn't care...who knows...I tend to post on topics that have generated some curiosity in me or I would like to talk about because they matter to me a fair amount...of course I am trying to yank your chain a bit here....but that is what it's all about a lot of the time :wink:


Honestly I never saw it torontoeers, can you link me to it?

I always do try to comment when asked, even if I disagree. I'm not like a lot of Leftists on this board who just clam up when/if they don't like what you ask them.

So link me, I'll take a look at it and comment.
 

torontoeers

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Honestly I never saw it torontoeers, can you link me to it?

I always do try to comment when asked, even if I disagree. I'm not like a lot of Leftists on this board who just clam up when/if they don't like what you ask them.

So link me, I'll take a look at it and comment.
Here ya go

https://westvirginia.forums.rivals.com/threads/nafta-or-perhaps-now-bi-lateral-trade.136041/

You are a good sport and I do appreciate that...there has been some very interesting discussion on here recently. American politics fascinate me almost as much as the Mountaineers
.....almost....
 

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atlkvb...with all due respect. You didn't comment on my NAFTA and bi-lateral trade query (actually only 82 did with a bunch of links, lol). I imagine this does matter to you? I sure hope it does. Perhaps you are not well versed in the aspects of international trade and that is just fine too... IMO it will shape the 3 nations for the foreseeable future. Perhaps country is well versed in the nuts and bolts of your query, and perhaps not. Perhaps he doesn't care...who knows...I tend to post on topics that have generated some curiosity in me or I would like to talk about because they matter to me a fair amount...of course I am trying to yank your chain a bit here....but that is what it's all about a lot of the time :wink:
No one pays attention to you because you're Canadian.
 

atlkvb

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Here ya go

https://westvirginia.forums.rivals.com/threads/nafta-or-perhaps-now-bi-lateral-trade.136041/

You are a good sport and I do appreciate that...there has been some very interesting discussion on here recently. American politics fascinate me almost as much as the Mountaineers
.....almost....


After reading up some on it (you're right I'm not as well versed) I generally support the bi-lateral as opposed to multi-lateral trade agreements, because it gives flexibility to adjust to each Nation's specific market configurations.

As a general philosophy NAFTA left huge gaps in our balance of trade. We sent more out than came in, but again I see the U.S. Government and its restrictive regulatory and confiscatory taxation as the major culprits.

We've had a pretty good trade relationship with Canada, because we share so many synergies among our corporate structures. It's not the same arrangement with China, which uses it's currency to offset domestic costs of its goods, at the expense of allowing fewer of ours into their markets at higher prices which makes us less competitive in China with American products.

Canada doesn't do that, and sees us more as an equal trading partner and despite those concerns you voiced about lumber, we share interests in other things like energy, transportation, tourism, communications, manufacturing, and agriculture.

I'm essentially for open trade. I have issues with Trump's call for tariff's on Foreign goods not produced here. That eventually only hurts US consumers. Canada and the US need to understand that what works best for both countries is a stable market with fair trade that stabilizes both economies with trading rules that are equally beneficial as well as reciprocal.
 

torontoeers

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After reading up some on it (you're right I'm not as well versed) I generally support the bi-lateral as opposed to multi-lateral trade agreements, because it gives flexibility to adjust to each Nation's specific market configurations.

As a general philosophy NAFTA left huge gaps in our balance of trade. We sent more out than came in, but again I see the U.S. Government and its restrictive regulatory and confiscatory taxation as the major culprits.

We've had a pretty good trade relationship with Canada, because we share so many synergies among our corporate structures. It's not the same arrangement with China, which uses it's currency to offset domestic costs of its goods, at the expense of allowing fewer of ours into their markets at higher prices which makes us less competitive in China with American products.

Canada doesn't do that, and sees us more as an equal trading partner and despite those concerns you voiced about lumber, we share interests in other things like energy, transportation, tourism, communications, manufacturing, and agriculture.

I'm essentially for open trade. I have issues with Trump's call for tariff's on Foreign goods not produced here. That eventually only hurts US consumers. Canada and the US need to understand that what works best for both countries is a stable market with fair trade that stabilizes both economies with trading rules that are equally beneficial as well as reciprocal.
Well...you seem fairly well versed to me...agreed re: the synergy that does exist and has for years. It is incredibly beneficial. Example being these pipelines...I do understand and empathize with the environmental impact pipelines can have, however from all I have read on both sides of the political spectrum economy demands that this tar sand oil gets pulled from the ground (albeit at 50 bucks a barrel it is low profit margin, the pipelines will help offset this loss until it returns to its IMO proper market price at 70 and beyond...my father was a Petrochemical Engineer who bought and sold oil on the market for the latter half of his career and brow beat into me the true value of oil lol). From what I understand the environmental record on this oil is improving. And frankly who doesn't like friendly oil vs terrorist oil, even if it is somewhat dirty...
Also transporting massive amounts of this stuff via train through towns and cities is a disaster waiting to happen , which actually did in Lac Megantic Quebec a few years ago...the entire town was blown to smithereens by an oil filled train on its way to Maine combined with a sleepy engineer...many died.
As I say I do like the fact that Shwarzman and Freeland are apparently good friends....says to me that they will negotiate competitive but won't screw each other. The wildcard is the Trump protectionist policies , which to my knowledge are traditionally a Democrat tactic? And a Liberal tactic here somewhat...interesting times ahead. Pretty much a whole lot of nothing happened under Obama/Harper over the last 8 years here. Our economy was stagnant and that asshat blew a surplus of epic proportion....
Thanks for response.
 

atlkvb

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Well...you seem fairly well versed to me...agreed re: the synergy that does exist and has for years. It is incredibly beneficial. Example being these pipelines...I do understand and empathize with the environmental impact pipelines can have, however from all I have read on both sides of the political spectrum economy demands that this tar sand oil gets pulled from the ground (albeit at 50 bucks a barrel it is low profit margin, the pipelines will help offset this loss until it returns to its IMO proper market price at 70 and beyond...my father was a Petrochemical Engineer who bought and sold oil on the market for the latter half of his career and brow beat into me the true value of oil lol). From what I understand the environmental record on this oil is improving. And frankly who doesn't like friendly oil vs terrorist oil, even if it is somewhat dirty...
Also transporting massive amounts of this stuff via train through towns and cities is a disaster waiting to happen , which actually did in Lac Megantic Quebec a few years ago...the entire town was blown to smithereens by an oil filled train on its way to Maine combined with a sleepy engineer...many died.
As I say I do like the fact that Shwarzman and Freeland are apparently good friends....says to me that they will negotiate competitive but won't screw each other. The wildcard is the Trump protectionist policies , which to my knowledge are traditionally a Democrat tactic? And a Liberal tactic here somewhat...interesting times ahead. Pretty much a whole lot of nothing happened under Obama/Harper over the last 8 years here. Our economy was stagnant and that asshat blew a surplus of epic proportion....
Thanks for response.


You give me too much credit torontoeers, but as a principle... fair and balanced free trade should be both Canada's and US policy...I'd even argue Trump wants this as international policy thus his rejection of TPP, GATT, The Paris climate change accords and all multi-lateral Globalist pseudo Governmental "agreements". He wants each deal negotiated on a case-by-case basis, nation-by-nation. Bi-lateral, with our interests paramount.

I share your concern over tariffs, and Trump has me confused over his "boarder adjustments"...he needs to flush that out for companies that depend on the free flow of goods and services across entry points like Windsor Ontario, and Ft. Erie, Ontario (which I'm familiar with).

I also agree with you that Schwartzman and Freeland have mutual respect and interests to keep our trade lines tethered to the same anchors. Canada is a very reliable and important US trade partner, I don't think Trump wants to see anything interrupt that.
 
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