Trump is halfway to making America a police state

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Trump is halfway to making America a police state

This week’s visit to the Oval Office by Nayib Bukele offered a civics lesson to the world: America’s government pays greater respect to a foreign strongman than its own Supreme Court.

Around noon on April 14, America ceased to have a law-abiding government. Some would argue that had already happened on January 20, when Donald Trump was inaugurated.

On Monday (Tuesday AEST), however, Trump chose to ignore a 9-0 Supreme Court ruling to repatriate an illegally deported man. He even claimed the judges ruled in his favour.

The US president’s middle finger to the court was echoed by his attorney-general, secretary of state, vice-president and El Salvador’s vigilante president, Nayib Bukele. The latter is playing host to what resembles an embryonic US gulag.


In terms of clarifying moments, Trump’s meeting with Bukele compares with his dressing down of Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky in late February. Zelensky was berated for being insufficiently thankful for US military aid and for failing to wear a suit. A tieless Bukele, by contrast, got royal treatment.

Trump’s team nodded when Bukele said he would not consider returning the wrongly deported Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia. All baselessly agreed that Garcia was, in fact, a terrorist.

The Oval Office drama offered a civics lesson to the world: America’s government pays greater respect to a foreign strongman than its own Supreme Court.

Trump knows how to deliver gripping television. He was also making history. The official position of the world’s oldest constitutional republic is that the courts should have no say in who its executive deports and on what grounds.

‘Homegrown’ deportees

Foreign travellers to the US should beware. They can be detained without recourse. Americans should too. Trump casually told Bukele he may need to build more supermax jails for “homegrown” deportees, which means US citizens.

If Trump deems that you are a gang member, pro-terrorist, or simply anti-national, he claims impunity over your liberty. The fact that one deportee was a hairdresser, not a gang member, and another target was an innocuous op-ed writing student, not a terrorist, is no protection.

Trump’s lawyers are barely even pretending to phone it in. Evidence can be withheld on national security grounds or seemingly invented, as it was on Monday with Garcia. A government lawyer who conceded that Garcia’s deportation was mistaken was placed on administrative leave.

Should the wrong person be deported in shackles, the US can do nothing about it. That would interfere with another country’s sovereignty, they say. This is from the same administration that is demanding other countries’ territory.

El Salvador is as sovereign as Trump chooses it to be. Bukele is Trump’s hemispheric sidekick.

That the White House will not release details about its Bukele prison contract is also informative. Grift and authoritarianism go hand in hand. America’s busiest expos nowadays are those specialising in border security, drones and paramilitary gear.

“Trump has pardoned several fraudsters and embezzlers who have contributed money to his campaign or just spoken well of him.”
El Salvador is now a hotspot of shadowy vigilantism. In that respect, the US-El Salvador relationship is threatening to become two-way. Among those angling for deportation contracts are Erik Prince, the former chief executive of the mercenary group Blackwater.

The portents are also grim for US investors. On Monday, Morgan Stanley’s research arm warned they “should be prepared to be fooled many more times”.


Analysts were referring to Trump’s constantly shifting rationale for tariffs. But their point – “Fool me once, shame on you ... ” – also describes the US rule of law.

Trump has pardoned several fraudsters and embezzlers who have contributed money to his campaign or just spoken well of him. He has also suspended a law that requires an entity’s true owner to be named, and another that penalises US companies for foreign bribery.

Now he is unleashing the investigative dogs on critics. The latest targets include a former federal official, Chris Krebs, for having “falsely ... denied that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen”.

The media is also in his sights. On Sunday, Trump issued a torrent of threats against CBS for running interviews critical of him. He called on Brendan Carr, chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, to revoke the network’s broadcast licence.

The 60 Minutes interview that angered Trump was with Zelensky. Ukraine’s leader said that “Russian narratives are prevailing in the US”. That was a fair point given Trump’s reversal of culpability for Russia’s Ukraine invasion.

But Zelensky’s observation can be applied more widely.

In Russia, dissent can cost critics their business licences, liberty and even their lives. It seems a matter of time before other less besieged western legal systems hear petitions by US citizens for asylum.
 

roadtrasheer

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Trump is halfway to making America a police state

This week’s visit to the Oval Office by Nayib Bukele offered a civics lesson to the world: America’s government pays greater respect to a foreign strongman than its own Supreme Court.

Around noon on April 14, America ceased to have a law-abiding government. Some would argue that had already happened on January 20, when Donald Trump was inaugurated.

On Monday (Tuesday AEST), however, Trump chose to ignore a 9-0 Supreme Court ruling to repatriate an illegally deported man. He even claimed the judges ruled in his favour.

The US president’s middle finger to the court was echoed by his attorney-general, secretary of state, vice-president and El Salvador’s vigilante president, Nayib Bukele. The latter is playing host to what resembles an embryonic US gulag.


In terms of clarifying moments, Trump’s meeting with Bukele compares with his dressing down of Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky in late February. Zelensky was berated for being insufficiently thankful for US military aid and for failing to wear a suit. A tieless Bukele, by contrast, got royal treatment.

Trump’s team nodded when Bukele said he would not consider returning the wrongly deported Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia. All baselessly agreed that Garcia was, in fact, a terrorist.

The Oval Office drama offered a civics lesson to the world: America’s government pays greater respect to a foreign strongman than its own Supreme Court.

Trump knows how to deliver gripping television. He was also making history. The official position of the world’s oldest constitutional republic is that the courts should have no say in who its executive deports and on what grounds.


‘Homegrown’ deportees

Foreign travellers to the US should beware. They can be detained without recourse. Americans should too. Trump casually told Bukele he may need to build more supermax jails for “homegrown” deportees, which means US citizens.

If Trump deems that you are a gang member, pro-terrorist, or simply anti-national, he claims impunity over your liberty. The fact that one deportee was a hairdresser, not a gang member, and another target was an innocuous op-ed writing student, not a terrorist, is no protection.

Trump’s lawyers are barely even pretending to phone it in. Evidence can be withheld on national security grounds or seemingly invented, as it was on Monday with Garcia. A government lawyer who conceded that Garcia’s deportation was mistaken was placed on administrative leave.

Should the wrong person be deported in shackles, the US can do nothing about it. That would interfere with another country’s sovereignty, they say. This is from the same administration that is demanding other countries’ territory.

El Salvador is as sovereign as Trump chooses it to be. Bukele is Trump’s hemispheric sidekick.

That the White House will not release details about its Bukele prison contract is also informative. Grift and authoritarianism go hand in hand. America’s busiest expos nowadays are those specialising in border security, drones and paramilitary gear.


El Salvador is now a hotspot of shadowy vigilantism. In that respect, the US-El Salvador relationship is threatening to become two-way. Among those angling for deportation contracts are Erik Prince, the former chief executive of the mercenary group Blackwater.

The portents are also grim for US investors. On Monday, Morgan Stanley’s research arm warned they “should be prepared to be fooled many more times”.


Analysts were referring to Trump’s constantly shifting rationale for tariffs. But their point – “Fool me once, shame on you ... ” – also describes the US rule of law.

Trump has pardoned several fraudsters and embezzlers who have contributed money to his campaign or just spoken well of him. He has also suspended a law that requires an entity’s true owner to be named, and another that penalises US companies for foreign bribery.

Now he is unleashing the investigative dogs on critics. The latest targets include a former federal official, Chris Krebs, for having “falsely ... denied that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen”.

The media is also in his sights. On Sunday, Trump issued a torrent of threats against CBS for running interviews critical of him. He called on Brendan Carr, chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, to revoke the network’s broadcast licence.

The 60 Minutes interview that angered Trump was with Zelensky. Ukraine’s leader said that “Russian narratives are prevailing in the US”. That was a fair point given Trump’s reversal of culpability for Russia’s Ukraine invasion.

But Zelensky’s observation can be applied more widely.

In Russia, dissent can cost critics their business licences, liberty and even their lives. It seems a matter of time before other less besieged western legal systems hear petitions by US citizens for asylum.
Just take the rope all the way to the top ...... stand up tall for gang members illegally in the country taking up social benefits for our seniors.
 

Airport

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Trump is halfway to making America a police state

This week’s visit to the Oval Office by Nayib Bukele offered a civics lesson to the world: America’s government pays greater respect to a foreign strongman than its own Supreme Court.

Around noon on April 14, America ceased to have a law-abiding government. Some would argue that had already happened on January 20, when Donald Trump was inaugurated.

On Monday (Tuesday AEST), however, Trump chose to ignore a 9-0 Supreme Court ruling to repatriate an illegally deported man. He even claimed the judges ruled in his favour.

The US president’s middle finger to the court was echoed by his attorney-general, secretary of state, vice-president and El Salvador’s vigilante president, Nayib Bukele. The latter is playing host to what resembles an embryonic US gulag.


In terms of clarifying moments, Trump’s meeting with Bukele compares with his dressing down of Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky in late February. Zelensky was berated for being insufficiently thankful for US military aid and for failing to wear a suit. A tieless Bukele, by contrast, got royal treatment.

Trump’s team nodded when Bukele said he would not consider returning the wrongly deported Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia. All baselessly agreed that Garcia was, in fact, a terrorist.

The Oval Office drama offered a civics lesson to the world: America’s government pays greater respect to a foreign strongman than its own Supreme Court.

Trump knows how to deliver gripping television. He was also making history. The official position of the world’s oldest constitutional republic is that the courts should have no say in who its executive deports and on what grounds.


‘Homegrown’ deportees

Foreign travellers to the US should beware. They can be detained without recourse. Americans should too. Trump casually told Bukele he may need to build more supermax jails for “homegrown” deportees, which means US citizens.

If Trump deems that you are a gang member, pro-terrorist, or simply anti-national, he claims impunity over your liberty. The fact that one deportee was a hairdresser, not a gang member, and another target was an innocuous op-ed writing student, not a terrorist, is no protection.

Trump’s lawyers are barely even pretending to phone it in. Evidence can be withheld on national security grounds or seemingly invented, as it was on Monday with Garcia. A government lawyer who conceded that Garcia’s deportation was mistaken was placed on administrative leave.

Should the wrong person be deported in shackles, the US can do nothing about it. That would interfere with another country’s sovereignty, they say. This is from the same administration that is demanding other countries’ territory.

El Salvador is as sovereign as Trump chooses it to be. Bukele is Trump’s hemispheric sidekick.

That the White House will not release details about its Bukele prison contract is also informative. Grift and authoritarianism go hand in hand. America’s busiest expos nowadays are those specialising in border security, drones and paramilitary gear.


El Salvador is now a hotspot of shadowy vigilantism. In that respect, the US-El Salvador relationship is threatening to become two-way. Among those angling for deportation contracts are Erik Prince, the former chief executive of the mercenary group Blackwater.

The portents are also grim for US investors. On Monday, Morgan Stanley’s research arm warned they “should be prepared to be fooled many more times”.


Analysts were referring to Trump’s constantly shifting rationale for tariffs. But their point – “Fool me once, shame on you ... ” – also describes the US rule of law.

Trump has pardoned several fraudsters and embezzlers who have contributed money to his campaign or just spoken well of him. He has also suspended a law that requires an entity’s true owner to be named, and another that penalises US companies for foreign bribery.

Now he is unleashing the investigative dogs on critics. The latest targets include a former federal official, Chris Krebs, for having “falsely ... denied that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen”.

The media is also in his sights. On Sunday, Trump issued a torrent of threats against CBS for running interviews critical of him. He called on Brendan Carr, chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, to revoke the network’s broadcast licence.

The 60 Minutes interview that angered Trump was with Zelensky. Ukraine’s leader said that “Russian narratives are prevailing in the US”. That was a fair point given Trump’s reversal of culpability for Russia’s Ukraine invasion.

But Zelensky’s observation can be applied more widely.

In Russia, dissent can cost critics their business licences, liberty and even their lives. It seems a matter of time before other less besieged western legal systems hear petitions by US citizens for asylum.
If by police state you mean putting criminals in jail and sending illegals back home, I’m for it.
 

moe

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If by police state you mean putting criminals in jail and sending illegals back home, I’m for it.

Police state

A police state describes a state whose government institutions exercise an extreme level of control over civil society and liberties. There is typically little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive, and the deployment of internal security and police forces play a heightened role in governance. A police state is a characteristic of authoritarian, totalitarian or illiberal regimes (contrary to a liberal democratic regime). Such governments are typically one-party states and dominant-party states, but police-state-level control may emerge in multi-party systems as well.

Originally, a police state was a state regulated by a civil administration, but since the beginning of the 20th century it has "taken on an emotional and derogatory meaning" by describing an undesirable state of living characterized by the overbearing presence of civil authorities.[1] The inhabitants of a police state may experience restrictions on their mobility, or on their freedom to express or communicate political or other views, which are subject to police monitoring or enforcement. Political control may be exerted by means of a secret police force that operates outside the boundaries normally imposed by a constitutional state.[2] Robert von Mohl, who first introduced the rule of law to German jurisprudence, contrasted the Rechtsstaat ("legal" or "constitutional" state) with the anti-aristocratic Polizeistaat ("police state").
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oceantide83

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Hey @moe, you won't need to worry about that since sensical people like yourself will be leaving the country soon anyway. Better hurry though since they could ban you from leaving at any moment now.
 

Brushy Bill

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I would have thought that Moe's USAID contract and money would be up by now. He must be doing this **** for free now adays.
 

Gunny46

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Trump is halfway to making America a police state

This week’s visit to the Oval Office by Nayib Bukele offered a civics lesson to the world: America’s government pays greater respect to a foreign strongman than its own Supreme Court.

Around noon on April 14, America ceased to have a law-abiding government. Some would argue that had already happened on January 20, when Donald Trump was inaugurated.

On Monday (Tuesday AEST), however, Trump chose to ignore a 9-0 Supreme Court ruling to repatriate an illegally deported man. He even claimed the judges ruled in his favour.

The US president’s middle finger to the court was echoed by his attorney-general, secretary of state, vice-president and El Salvador’s vigilante president, Nayib Bukele. The latter is playing host to what resembles an embryonic US gulag.


In terms of clarifying moments, Trump’s meeting with Bukele compares with his dressing down of Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky in late February. Zelensky was berated for being insufficiently thankful for US military aid and for failing to wear a suit. A tieless Bukele, by contrast, got royal treatment.

Trump’s team nodded when Bukele said he would not consider returning the wrongly deported Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia. All baselessly agreed that Garcia was, in fact, a terrorist.

The Oval Office drama offered a civics lesson to the world: America’s government pays greater respect to a foreign strongman than its own Supreme Court.

Trump knows how to deliver gripping television. He was also making history. The official position of the world’s oldest constitutional republic is that the courts should have no say in who its executive deports and on what grounds.


‘Homegrown’ deportees

Foreign travellers to the US should beware. They can be detained without recourse. Americans should too. Trump casually told Bukele he may need to build more supermax jails for “homegrown” deportees, which means US citizens.

If Trump deems that you are a gang member, pro-terrorist, or simply anti-national, he claims impunity over your liberty. The fact that one deportee was a hairdresser, not a gang member, and another target was an innocuous op-ed writing student, not a terrorist, is no protection.

Trump’s lawyers are barely even pretending to phone it in. Evidence can be withheld on national security grounds or seemingly invented, as it was on Monday with Garcia. A government lawyer who conceded that Garcia’s deportation was mistaken was placed on administrative leave.

Should the wrong person be deported in shackles, the US can do nothing about it. That would interfere with another country’s sovereignty, they say. This is from the same administration that is demanding other countries’ territory.

El Salvador is as sovereign as Trump chooses it to be. Bukele is Trump’s hemispheric sidekick.

That the White House will not release details about its Bukele prison contract is also informative. Grift and authoritarianism go hand in hand. America’s busiest expos nowadays are those specialising in border security, drones and paramilitary gear.


El Salvador is now a hotspot of shadowy vigilantism. In that respect, the US-El Salvador relationship is threatening to become two-way. Among those angling for deportation contracts are Erik Prince, the former chief executive of the mercenary group Blackwater.

The portents are also grim for US investors. On Monday, Morgan Stanley’s research arm warned they “should be prepared to be fooled many more times”.


Analysts were referring to Trump’s constantly shifting rationale for tariffs. But their point – “Fool me once, shame on you ... ” – also describes the US rule of law.

Trump has pardoned several fraudsters and embezzlers who have contributed money to his campaign or just spoken well of him. He has also suspended a law that requires an entity’s true owner to be named, and another that penalises US companies for foreign bribery.

Now he is unleashing the investigative dogs on critics. The latest targets include a former federal official, Chris Krebs, for having “falsely ... denied that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen”.

The media is also in his sights. On Sunday, Trump issued a torrent of threats against CBS for running interviews critical of him. He called on Brendan Carr, chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, to revoke the network’s broadcast licence.

The 60 Minutes interview that angered Trump was with Zelensky. Ukraine’s leader said that “Russian narratives are prevailing in the US”. That was a fair point given Trump’s reversal of culpability for Russia’s Ukraine invasion.

But Zelensky’s observation can be applied more widely.

In Russia, dissent can cost critics their business licences, liberty and even their lives. It seems a matter of time before other less besieged western legal systems hear petitions by US citizens for asylum.

The Supreme Court did rule in his favor. It's been explained to you numerous times in other threads. Let me know if this works out for you too.


 

Gunny46

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Police state

A police state describes a state whose government institutions exercise an extreme level of control over civil society and liberties. There is typically little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive, and the deployment of internal security and police forces play a heightened role in governance. A police state is a characteristic of authoritarian, totalitarian or illiberal regimes (contrary to a liberal democratic regime). Such governments are typically one-party states and dominant-party states, but police-state-level control may emerge in multi-party systems as well.

Originally, a police state was a state regulated by a civil administration, but since the beginning of the 20th century it has "taken on an emotional and derogatory meaning" by describing an undesirable state of living characterized by the overbearing presence of civil authorities.[1] The inhabitants of a police state may experience restrictions on their mobility, or on their freedom to express or communicate political or other views, which are subject to police monitoring or enforcement. Political control may be exerted by means of a secret police force that operates outside the boundaries normally imposed by a constitutional state.[2] Robert von Mohl, who first introduced the rule of law to German jurisprudence, contrasted the Rechtsstaat ("legal" or "constitutional" state) with the anti-aristocratic Polizeistaat ("police state").
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You idiots need put the shovel down.





 

Gunny46

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An arrested FBI agent who had publicly alleged Trump ally Rudy Giuliani may have been compromised by Russia and who had denied the FBI had mishandled its investigation of Hunter Biden is now represented by a law firm that defended Joe Biden’s son.

The agent, Jonathan Buma, who had handled confidential human sources (CHSs) for the bureau and whose home had been raided by the FBI back in 2023, was arrested at JFK Airport in New York City in March for the alleged illegal disclosure of confidential information. He is being prosecuted in California, where he was based as an FBI agent.
 

Gunny46

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Consider that Joe Biden allowed approximately 20 million illegal aliens into our country. This placed extraordinary burdens on our country--our schools, hospitals, housing, and other essential services were overwhelmed. On top of that, many of these illegal aliens committed violent crimes, or facilitated fentanyl and sex trafficking. That is the situation we inherited.The American people elected the Trump administration to solve this problem. The President has successfully stopped the inflow of illegal aliens, and now we must deport the people who came here illegally. To say the administration must observe "due process" is to beg the question: what process is due is a function of our resources, the public interest, the status of the accused, the proposed punishment, and so many other factors. To put it in concrete terms, imposing the death penalty on an American citizen requires more legal process than deporting an illegal alien to their country of origin.When the media and the far left obsess over an MS-13 gang member and demand that he be returned to the United States for a *third* deportation hearing, what they're really saying is they want the vast majority of illegal aliens to stay here permanently. Here's a useful test: ask the people weeping over the lack of due process what precisely they propose for dealing with Biden's millions and millions of illegals. And with reasonable resource and administrative judge constraints, does their solution allow us to deport at least a few million people per year?If the answer is no, they've given their game away. They don't want border security. They don't want us to deport the people who've come into our country illegally. They want to accomplish through fake legal process what they failed to accomplish politically: The ratification of Biden's illegal migrant invasion. President Trump and I will not stand fori t.
 

Airport

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Police state

A police state describes a state whose government institutions exercise an extreme level of control over civil society and liberties. There is typically little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive, and the deployment of internal security and police forces play a heightened role in governance. A police state is a characteristic of authoritarian, totalitarian or illiberal regimes (contrary to a liberal democratic regime). Such governments are typically one-party states and dominant-party states, but police-state-level control may emerge in multi-party systems as well.

Originally, a police state was a state regulated by a civil administration, but since the beginning of the 20th century it has "taken on an emotional and derogatory meaning" by describing an undesirable state of living characterized by the overbearing presence of civil authorities.[1] The inhabitants of a police state may experience restrictions on their mobility, or on their freedom to express or communicate political or other views, which are subject to police monitoring or enforcement. Political control may be exerted by means of a secret police force that operates outside the boundaries normally imposed by a constitutional state.[2] Robert von Mohl, who first introduced the rule of law to German jurisprudence, contrasted the Rechtsstaat ("legal" or "constitutional" state) with the anti-aristocratic Polizeistaat ("police state").
[3]
That’s not Trump you moron.
 

bornaneer

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Police state

A police state describes a state whose government institutions exercise an extreme level of control over civil society and liberties. There is typically little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive, and the deployment of internal security and police forces play a heightened role in governance. A police state is a characteristic of authoritarian, totalitarian or illiberal regimes (contrary to a liberal democratic regime). Such governments are typically one-party states and dominant-party states, but police-state-level control may emerge in multi-party systems as well.

Originally, a police state was a state regulated by a civil administration, but since the beginning of the 20th century it has "taken on an emotional and derogatory meaning" by describing an undesirable state of living characterized by the overbearing presence of civil authorities.[1] The inhabitants of a police state may experience restrictions on their mobility, or on their freedom to express or communicate political or other views, which are subject to police monitoring or enforcement. Political control may be exerted by means of a secret police force that operates outside the boundaries normally imposed by a constitutional state.[2] Robert von Mohl, who first introduced the rule of law to German jurisprudence, contrasted the Rechtsstaat ("legal" or "constitutional" state) with the anti-aristocratic Polizeistaat ("police state").
[3]


You Democrats care more about a deported Maryland father illegal alien terrorist than a Maryland mother and American citizen named Rachel Morin who was brutally murdered at the hands of an illegal alien.

It’s despicable.

President Trump will not rest until every single violent illegal alien invader is removed from our country.
 

Gunny46

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That’s not Trump you moron.

Because some people are slower than others I will explain it like this. Most people at this point understand the radicals infiltrated Jan 6 protest just like they try to infiltrate and highjack the MAGA movement.

Trump pardoning everyone wasn't approval of all involved. He just wasn't going to make those taken advantage of wait years for real Justice while it was figured out. That was everyone's second chance. There won't be a third.

So if idiots are hell bent on the below happening again. The majority that voted for him will support him doing what is necessary to stop it. Alot more will join once more information that's been declassified has come out and more investigations are completed.

Ignore at your own demise. I voted for that along with 77 million of others that were paying attention.




 

moe

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You Democrats care more about a deported Maryland father illegal alien terrorist than a Maryland mother and American citizen named Rachel Morin who was brutally murdered at the hands of an illegal alien.

It’s despicable.

President Trump will not rest until every single violent illegal alien invader is removed from our country.
Not even surprised any more at the number of MAGA treasonists on here supporting the POTUS defying a 9-0 SCOTUS order.
 

bornaneer

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Not even surprised any more at the number of MAGA treasonists on here supporting the POTUS defying a 9-0 SCOTUS order.
Let's wait until this plays out....I bet that you are going to cry your eyes out.
 

Gunny46

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Huh? that's what he's creating you fool, a police state. See post #1.

You sound like the kind of ******* that wants Americans taking shots at our Military if they were called in to apprehend Antifa or Foreign Terrorists that Biden let in.




 

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Not even surprised any more at the number of MAGA treasonists on here supporting the POTUS defying a 9-0 SCOTUS order.
Not surprised there's still media mind numbed Leftists on here complaining about "due process" and obeying Court orders after YOU sat silent while the D.O.J. lied to the Courts and falsified evidence just so they could illegally spy on innocent Americans! 😡

@moe
Nothing my side did defying due process or Law & Order counts when it comes to Trump. Our hatred of him justifies everything OK?


 

Gunny46

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Let's wait until this plays out....I bet that you are going to cry your eyes out.
You sound like the kind of ******* that wants Americans taking shots at our Military if they were called in to apprehend Antifa or Foreign Terrorists that Biden let in.







Remember Covid 19 when we had troop movements to set up temporary medical facilities. This idiot was attempting to scare people into getting violent with them.
 

Gunny46

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Huh? that's what he's creating you fool, a police state. See post #1.

Moe's dumbass wants you to attack our military if they come to you Patriots assistance. It's also why he constantly attacks SecDef Pete Hegseth.



 

Gunny46

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Huh? that's what he's creating you fool, a police state. See post #1.

Moe doesn't want the National Guard putting out forest fires his Communist friends probably started.

He wants to scare you into shooting at them during a National Emergency.






 

bornaneer

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Trump is halfway to making America a police state

This week’s visit to the Oval Office by Nayib Bukele offered a civics lesson to the world: America’s government pays greater respect to a foreign strongman than its own Supreme Court.

Around noon on April 14, America ceased to have a law-abiding government. Some would argue that had already happened on January 20, when Donald Trump was inaugurated.

On Monday (Tuesday AEST), however, Trump chose to ignore a 9-0 Supreme Court ruling to repatriate an illegally deported man. He even claimed the judges ruled in his favour.

The US president’s middle finger to the court was echoed by his attorney-general, secretary of state, vice-president and El Salvador’s vigilante president, Nayib Bukele. The latter is playing host to what resembles an embryonic US gulag.


In terms of clarifying moments, Trump’s meeting with Bukele compares with his dressing down of Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky in late February. Zelensky was berated for being insufficiently thankful for US military aid and for failing to wear a suit. A tieless Bukele, by contrast, got royal treatment.

Trump’s team nodded when Bukele said he would not consider returning the wrongly deported Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia. All baselessly agreed that Garcia was, in fact, a terrorist.

The Oval Office drama offered a civics lesson to the world: America’s government pays greater respect to a foreign strongman than its own Supreme Court.

Trump knows how to deliver gripping television. He was also making history. The official position of the world’s oldest constitutional republic is that the courts should have no say in who its executive deports and on what grounds.


‘Homegrown’ deportees

Foreign travellers to the US should beware. They can be detained without recourse. Americans should too. Trump casually told Bukele he may need to build more supermax jails for “homegrown” deportees, which means US citizens.

If Trump deems that you are a gang member, pro-terrorist, or simply anti-national, he claims impunity over your liberty. The fact that one deportee was a hairdresser, not a gang member, and another target was an innocuous op-ed writing student, not a terrorist, is no protection.

Trump’s lawyers are barely even pretending to phone it in. Evidence can be withheld on national security grounds or seemingly invented, as it was on Monday with Garcia. A government lawyer who conceded that Garcia’s deportation was mistaken was placed on administrative leave.

Should the wrong person be deported in shackles, the US can do nothing about it. That would interfere with another country’s sovereignty, they say. This is from the same administration that is demanding other countries’ territory.

El Salvador is as sovereign as Trump chooses it to be. Bukele is Trump’s hemispheric sidekick.

That the White House will not release details about its Bukele prison contract is also informative. Grift and authoritarianism go hand in hand. America’s busiest expos nowadays are those specialising in border security, drones and paramilitary gear.


El Salvador is now a hotspot of shadowy vigilantism. In that respect, the US-El Salvador relationship is threatening to become two-way. Among those angling for deportation contracts are Erik Prince, the former chief executive of the mercenary group Blackwater.

The portents are also grim for US investors. On Monday, Morgan Stanley’s research arm warned they “should be prepared to be fooled many more times”.


Analysts were referring to Trump’s constantly shifting rationale for tariffs. But their point – “Fool me once, shame on you ... ” – also describes the US rule of law.

Trump has pardoned several fraudsters and embezzlers who have contributed money to his campaign or just spoken well of him. He has also suspended a law that requires an entity’s true owner to be named, and another that penalises US companies for foreign bribery.

Now he is unleashing the investigative dogs on critics. The latest targets include a former federal official, Chris Krebs, for having “falsely ... denied that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen”.

The media is also in his sights. On Sunday, Trump issued a torrent of threats against CBS for running interviews critical of him. He called on Brendan Carr, chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, to revoke the network’s broadcast licence.

The 60 Minutes interview that angered Trump was with Zelensky. Ukraine’s leader said that “Russian narratives are prevailing in the US”. That was a fair point given Trump’s reversal of culpability for Russia’s Ukraine invasion.

But Zelensky’s observation can be applied more widely.

In Russia, dissent can cost critics their business licences, liberty and even their lives. It seems a matter of time before other less besieged western legal systems hear petitions by US citizens for asylum.
Trump directs agencies to follow Supreme Court rulings, as he continues to rein in administrative state

The administration issued a memorandum on April 9 requiring agencies to rescind regulations not in line with 10 recent Supreme Court opinions on proper administrative agency functions.

A President that actually adhere’s to SCOTUS rulings. Unlike Biden on student loans,
Refreshing.
 

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Huh? that's what he's creating you fool, a police state. See post #1.

God forbid a terrorist cell that Biden and the autopen let across the border set off a dirty bomb in the United States. Dumbass traitor Moe would have you all shooting at those coming to help you.



 

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On Monday (Tuesday AEST), however, Trump chose to ignore a 9-0 Supreme Court ruling to repatriate an illegally deported man. He even claimed the judges ruled in his favour.
Sorry Moe but.....El Salvatore says he won't release known murderer and terrorist MS-13 member from prison.
 

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Huh? that's what he's creating you fool, a police state. See post #1.


Moe doesn't want Trump to protect you. He's sick in the head and needs to be in a rubber room at a minimum. Gitmo might be a better option though.


 

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That doesn't mean fight help he may have to send if there is a National Emergency.
 

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?? On Monday (Tuesday AEST), however, Trump chose to ignore a 9-0 Supreme Court ruling to repatriate an illegally deported man.
That "illegally deported" man @moe was here "illegally". :rolleyes:

@moe
Don't remind me of facts in this case...I want to get Trump!

That's exactly why you'll fail too @moe . Try something else.
 

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I'm betting you could do 100 thread revivals and moe would be wrong in all of them ...and he still listening to the same birdbrains
He's still waiting for the Russia, Russia, Russia "collusion" case to once and for all prove Trump stole the '16 election! :rolleyes:
 

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If he ever worked for Brennan or Brennan's friends then yes. Only thing missing is a couple of green chemlights.