Trump on non- Rev (Olympic) and women’s sports

AtownPoke

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Sec. 2. Protecting and Expanding Women’s and Non-Revenue Sports and Prohibiting Third-Party Pay-for-Play Payments. (a) It is the policy of the executive branch that opportunities for scholarships and collegiate athletic competition in women’s and non-revenue sports must be preserved and, where possible, expanded, including specifically as follows with respect to the 2025-2026 athletic season and future athletic seasons:

(i) collegiate athletic departments with greater than $125,000,000 in revenue during the 2024-2025 athletic season should provide more scholarship opportunities in non-revenue sports than during the 2024-2025 athletic season and should provide the maximum number of roster spots for non-revenue sports permitted under the applicable collegiate athletic rules;

(ii) college athletic departments with greater than $50,000,000 in revenue during the 2024-2025 athletic season should provide at least as many scholarship opportunities in non-revenue sports as provided during the 2024-2025 athletic season and should provide the maximum number of roster spots for non-revenue sports permitted under the applicable collegiate athletic rules; and

(iii) college athletic departments with $50,000,000 or less in revenue during the 2024-2025 athletic season or that do not have any revenue-generating sports should not disproportionately reduce scholarship opportunities or roster spots for sports based on the revenue that the sport generates.

(b) It is the policy of the executive branch that any revenue-sharing permitted between universities and collegiate athletes should be designed and implemented in a manner that preserves or expands scholarships and collegiate athletic opportunities in women’s and non-revenue sports.

(c) To preserve the critical educational and developmental benefits of collegiate athletics for our Nation, it is the policy of the executive branch that third-party, pay-for-play payments to collegiate athletes are improper and should not be permitted by universities. This policy does not apply to compensation provided to an athlete for the fair market value that the athlete provides to a third party, such as for a brand endorsement.

(d) Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Education, in consultation with the Attorney General, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, the Secretary of Education, and the Chairman of the Federal Trade Commission, shall develop a plan to advance the policies set forth in subsections (a)-(c) of this section through all available and appropriate regulatory, enforcement, and litigation mechanisms, including Federal funding decisions, enforcement of Title IX of the Education Amendments Act of 1972, prohibiting unconstitutional actions by States to regulate interstate commerce, and enforcement of other constitutional and statutory protections, and by working with the Congress and State governments, as appropriate.
 

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Sec. 2. Protecting and Expanding Women’s and Non-Revenue Sports and Prohibiting Third-Party Pay-for-Play Payments. (a) It is the policy of the executive branch that opportunities for scholarships and collegiate athletic competition in women’s and non-revenue sports must be preserved and, where possible, expanded, including specifically as follows with respect to the 2025-2026 athletic season and future athletic seasons:

(i) collegiate athletic departments with greater than $125,000,000 in revenue during the 2024-2025 athletic season should provide more scholarship opportunities in non-revenue sports than during the 2024-2025 athletic season and should provide the maximum number of roster spots for non-revenue sports permitted under the applicable collegiate athletic rules;

(ii) college athletic departments with greater than $50,000,000 in revenue during the 2024-2025 athletic season should provide at least as many scholarship opportunities in non-revenue sports as provided during the 2024-2025 athletic season and should provide the maximum number of roster spots for non-revenue sports permitted under the applicable collegiate athletic rules; and

(iii) college athletic departments with $50,000,000 or less in revenue during the 2024-2025 athletic season or that do not have any revenue-generating sports should not disproportionately reduce scholarship opportunities or roster spots for sports based on the revenue that the sport generates.

(b) It is the policy of the executive branch that any revenue-sharing permitted between universities and collegiate athletes should be designed and implemented in a manner that preserves or expands scholarships and collegiate athletic opportunities in women’s and non-revenue sports.

(c) To preserve the critical educational and developmental benefits of collegiate athletics for our Nation, it is the policy of the executive branch that third-party, pay-for-play payments to collegiate athletes are improper and should not be permitted by universities. This policy does not apply to compensation provided to an athlete for the fair market value that the athlete provides to a third party, such as for a brand endorsement.

(d) Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Education, in consultation with the Attorney General, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, the Secretary of Education, and the Chairman of the Federal Trade Commission, shall develop a plan to advance the policies set forth in subsections (a)-(c) of this section through all available and appropriate regulatory, enforcement, and litigation mechanisms, including Federal funding decisions, enforcement of Title IX of the Education Amendments Act of 1972, prohibiting unconstitutional actions by States to regulate interstate commerce, and enforcement of other constitutional and statutory protections, and by working with the Congress and State governments, as appropriate.
Can you explain this in layman’s terms? Is NIL basically just illegal for sports besides football and basketball now?
 

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Sec. 2. Protecting and Expanding Women’s and Non-Revenue Sports and Prohibiting Third-Party Pay-for-Play Payments. (a) It is the policy of the executive branch that opportunities for scholarships and collegiate athletic competition in women’s and non-revenue sports must be preserved and, where possible, expanded, including specifically as follows with respect to the 2025-2026 athletic season and future athletic seasons:

(i) collegiate athletic departments with greater than $125,000,000 in revenue during the 2024-2025 athletic season should provide more scholarship opportunities in non-revenue sports than during the 2024-2025 athletic season and should provide the maximum number of roster spots for non-revenue sports permitted under the applicable collegiate athletic rules;

(ii) college athletic departments with greater than $50,000,000 in revenue during the 2024-2025 athletic season should provide at least as many scholarship opportunities in non-revenue sports as provided during the 2024-2025 athletic season and should provide the maximum number of roster spots for non-revenue sports permitted under the applicable collegiate athletic rules; and

(iii) college athletic departments with $50,000,000 or less in revenue during the 2024-2025 athletic season or that do not have any revenue-generating sports should not disproportionately reduce scholarship opportunities or roster spots for sports based on the revenue that the sport generates.

(b) It is the policy of the executive branch that any revenue-sharing permitted between universities and collegiate athletes should be designed and implemented in a manner that preserves or expands scholarships and collegiate athletic opportunities in women’s and non-revenue sports.

(c) To preserve the critical educational and developmental benefits of collegiate athletics for our Nation, it is the policy of the executive branch that third-party, pay-for-play payments to collegiate athletes are improper and should not be permitted by universities. This policy does not apply to compensation provided to an athlete for the fair market value that the athlete provides to a third party, such as for a brand endorsement.

(d) Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Education, in consultation with the Attorney General, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, the Secretary of Education, and the Chairman of the Federal Trade Commission, shall develop a plan to advance the policies set forth in subsections (a)-(c) of this section through all available and appropriate regulatory, enforcement, and litigation mechanisms, including Federal funding decisions, enforcement of Title IX of the Education Amendments Act of 1972, prohibiting unconstitutional actions by States to regulate interstate commerce, and enforcement of other constitutional and statutory protections, and by working with the Congress and State governments, as appropriate.
There will be lawsuits. Don’t count your chickens. Also not sure this is great for OSU wrestling. We’ve been able to outspend other schools and it’s been really good for us
 

Chasingthirty-five

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So basically they want NIL to be actual NIL like when it started. And they want schools who have proven to make money to spend it on non-revenue sports more.
The thought is nice but the execution is going to be brutal.
 

Air_Thurman

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That’s impossible. The fact that there’s movement of any kind in our Government is something.
It is not impossible at all. He is directing his cabinet to move on it and they may or may not. And if they do it is still not law. The order contradicts what the courts have been saying on this.

People who follow this stuff are pretty dubious. Even if Trump follows through and puts together policy on this a lot are not sure it will hold up to legal challenges.
 
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chasepollard

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It is not impossible at all. He is directing his cabinet to move on it and they may or may not. And if they do it is still not law. The order contradicts what the courts have been saying on this.

People who follow this stuff are pretty dubious. Even if Trump follows through and puts together policy on this a lot are not sure it will hold up to legal challenges.
I agree that this may not happen, maybe even probably not.

Im just excited that there is obvious attempt at assistance!
 

AtownPoke

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Can you explain this in layman’s terms? Is NIL basically just illegal for sports besides football and basketball now?
I don’t really care about the nil portion. I think schools being forced to fully support non revenue sports with scholarships and rev share is huge. Olympic sports are being bled dry and sacrificed at the alter of football. It’s a race to the bottom
 
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It is not impossible at all. He is directing his cabinet to move on it and they may or may not. And if they do it is still not law. The order contradicts what the courts have been saying on this.

People who follow this stuff are pretty dubious. Even if Trump follows through and puts together policy on this a lot are not sure it will hold up to legal challenges.
The part that will hold up in court/can’t really be challenged is holding schools accountable for using funds on non-revenue sports.

which is what we care about.

Basically/hopefully, it become a law of sort that - if you’re a university and you accept federal money - you don’t get to deviate from the mission of actually servicing your community. You don’t get to just make all this money, cry poor, and cut sports.

the nil stuff? Yeah, probably not gonna happen or change. But you can hold their feet to the fire on spreading the wealth.
 

Air_Thurman

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The part that will hold up in court/can’t really be challenged is holding schools accountable for using funds on non-revenue sports.

which is what we care about.

Basically/hopefully, it become a law of sort that - if you’re a university and you accept federal money - you don’t get to deviate from the mission of actually servicing your community. You don’t get to just make all this money, cry poor, and cut sports.

the nil stuff? Yeah, probably not gonna happen or change. But you can hold their feet to the fire on spreading the wealth.
Hope you are right. It sounds great in theory but they have to find a way the executive branch can enforce colleges to do this.

They have 30 days to put a plan together so we will find out soon.
 
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Howie_Fartz

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Hope you are right. It sounds great in theory but they have to find a way the executive branch can enforce colleges to do this.

They have 30 days to put a plan together so we will find out soon.
They specifically mention federal funding. You hit them where it hurts. And before anyone cries fowl and says they shouldnt do that, let me remind you that 80% of D1 football programs lose money. But A.D.'s dont give a **** about that, even when they have zero chance of winning a natty championship in football. Nope, they'd rather just cut wrestling rather than do anything to their biggest non-revenue sport because they like to be big shots in their fancy suites on Saturdays.

And even as far as Football Natty Champs go, Ohio State won it and still lost $20 million. How long would $20 million fund most D1 wrestling programs? SO I say get em Trump, regardless of your political affiliation.
 

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They specifically mention federal funding. You hit them where it hurts. And before anyone cries fowl and says they shouldnt do that, let me remind you that 80% of D1 football programs lose money. But A.D.'s dont give a **** about that, even when they have zero chance of winning a natty championship in football. Nope, they'd rather just cut wrestling rather than do anything to their biggest non-revenue sport because they like to be big shots in their fancy suites on Saturdays.

And even as far as Football Natty Champs go, Ohio State won it and still lost $20 million. How long would $20 million fund most D1 wrestling programs? SO I say get em Trump, regardless of your political affiliation.
A little common sense and someone who actually cares about the little guy. What a refreshing breath of fresh air!!
 
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