Trump refuses to sign G7 Agreement on Paris Climate Accord

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More Winning! President Trump Refuses to Sign G7 Statement on Paris Global Warming Agreement

Jim Hoft Apr 12th, 2017 12:11 am 90 Comments

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President Donald Trump refused to sign onto the G7 statement on the Paris Agreement to Global Warming junk science.


Secretary of Energy Rick Perry said the US was in the process of reviewing the agreement.
The Daily Caller reported:

The U.S. refused to sign onto a statement with other G7 countries to commit to the implementation of the Paris climate agreement, which President Donald Trump promised to withdraw from on the campaign trail.

Secretary of Energy Rick Perry said the U.S. “is in the process of reviewing many of its policies and reserves its position on this issue, which will be communicated at a future date,” Italy’s industry and energy minister Carlo Calenda said in a statement.

Calenda said other G7 members “reaffirmed their commitment towards the implementation of the Paris Agreement to effectively limit the increase in global temperature well below 2°C above pre-industrial level.”

The Trump administration would not sign onto a statement mentioning Paris, since the president is still deciding whether or not to keep his campaign pledge.
 

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More Winning! President Trump Refuses to Sign G7 Statement on Paris Global Warming Agreement

Jim Hoft Apr 12th, 2017 12:11 am 90 Comments

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President Donald Trump refused to sign onto the G7 statement on the Paris Agreement to Global Warming junk science.


Secretary of Energy Rick Perry said the US was in the process of reviewing the agreement.
The Daily Caller reported:

The U.S. refused to sign onto a statement with other G7 countries to commit to the implementation of the Paris climate agreement, which President Donald Trump promised to withdraw from on the campaign trail.

Secretary of Energy Rick Perry said the U.S. “is in the process of reviewing many of its policies and reserves its position on this issue, which will be communicated at a future date,” Italy’s industry and energy minister Carlo Calenda said in a statement.

Calenda said other G7 members “reaffirmed their commitment towards the implementation of the Paris Agreement to effectively limit the increase in global temperature well below 2°C above pre-industrial level.”

The Trump administration would not sign onto a statement mentioning Paris, since the president is still deciding whether or not to keep his campaign pledge.
Seems like a step back from "cancel"ing US involvement. This admins sure likes its studies.
 

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Seems like a step back from "cancel"ing US involvement. This admins sure likes its studies.

Much more research to do on global warming. The science is not settled, despite what the warmists say. Man's role, if any, has yet to be determined. The models have all diverged from our real temperature measurements.
 

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Much more research to do on global warming. The science is not settled, despite what the warmists say. Man's role, if any, has yet to be determined. The models have all diverged from our real temperature measurements.
10% of the earth is inhabited. I sure would think twice about ruining our economy over those facts. I should say, ruing our economy even more over those facts.
 

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I hope all the blue states follow California's lead and imposes their own global warming standards. It will mean even more mass migration to red states for business and individuals.
 

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Much more research to do on global warming. The science is not settled, despite what the warmists say. Man's role, if any, has yet to be determined. The models have all diverged from our real temperature measurements.
Again, seems like a big step back on the Paris Climate agreement position he had. Hopefully he is listening to big oil, big coal and other globalists.
 

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Again, seems like a big step back on the Paris Climate agreement position he had. Hopefully he is listening to big oil, big coal and other globalists.
10 % of the earth is inhabited by man, I hope he is listening to common sense. It was a good thing we paid attention back in the 70's when the earth was going to freeze over and we heated the planet up to avoid that armageddon.
 

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Again, seems like a big step back on the Paris Climate agreement position he had. Hopefully he is listening to big oil, big coal and other globalists.

Actually, he has been asked by energy companies to not pull out but rather to exert our influence to change the accords to protect coal, oil and gas. Since this is not a treaty, we are under no obligation to abide by it.
 

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I don't think that it's irreparable if we change our polluting ways.

This is not about polution but rather CO2, which many say is not a pollutant but is a green house gas. It's affect on our temperatures still needs much, much more research before we engage in negative economic restrictions.
 

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........It was a good thing we paid attention back in the 70's when the earth was going to freeze over and we heated the planet up to avoid that armageddon.

I thought I was the only one that remembered the experts of the late 60's and early 70's predicting the world was going to freeze over. Required reading in one of my HS classes was an article titled "The Coming Ice Age".
 

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I don't think that it's irreparable if we change our polluting ways.
If all liberals would just sign up for a trip to mars, the planet would be much better off.:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 

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I thought I was the only one that remembered the experts of the late 60's and early 70's predicting the world was going to freeze over. Required reading in one of my HS classes was an article titled "The Coming Ice Age".

I remember it vividly. The coming ice age. This is a giant scheme to get rich nations to redistribute trillions to developing countries so that they don't have to use fossil fuels. A U.N. executive has already said this approach gives the U.N. the best opportunity to rid the world of capitalism.

U.N. Official Admits Global Warming Agenda Is Really About Destroying Capitalism


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Submitted by Martin Armstrong via ArmstrongEconomics.com,

A shocking statement was made by a United Nations official Christiana Figueres at a news conference in Brussels.



Figueres admitted that the Global Warming conspiracy set by the U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, of which she is the executive secretary, has a goal not of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity, but to destroy capitalism. She said very casually:

“This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.”

She even restated that goal ensuring it was not a mistake:

“This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.”

I was invited to a major political dinner in Washington with the former Chairman of Temple University since I advised the University with respect to its portfolio. We were seated at one of those round tables with ten people. Because we were invited from a university, they placed us with the heads of the various environmental groups. They assumed they were in friendly company and began speaking freely. Dick Fox, my friend, began to lead them on to get the truth behind their movement. Lo and behold, they too admitted it was not about the environment, but to reduce population growth. Dick then asked them, “Whose grandchild are we trying to prevent from being born? Your’s or mine?

All of these movements seem to have a hidden agenda that the press helps to misrepresent all the time. One must wonder, at what point will the press realize they are destroying their own future?

Investors.com reminds Figueres that the only economic model in the last 150 years that has ever worked at all is capitalism. The evidence is prima facie: From a feudal order that lasted a thousand years, produced zero growth and kept workdays long and lifespans short, the countries that have embraced free-market capitalism have enjoyed a system in which output has increased 70-fold, work days have been halved and lifespans doubled.
 

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But many say is not. lol

SCOTUS has made many, many very bad rulings.

Pollution Myths
Of all the myths quoted, calling carbon dioxide a pollutant is the worst - it simply is not true!

Myth: CO2 is a pollutant.

Fact: Totally false. We challenge you to prove otherwise. CO2 is in our every breath, in the carbonated sodas and waters that we drink and in the dry ice that helps us keep our food cold and safe. We breathe in 400 parts per million and then exhale 40,000 parts per million with no ill effects.

We breathe the 40,000 ppm into victims needing CPR and it does not cause them to die!

The monitoring systems in U.S. submarines do not provide an alert until CO2 levels reach 8,000 ppm which is higher that natural CO2 levels have been on Earth in the last 540 million years.

CO2 is a great airborne fertilizer which, as its concentrations rise, causes additional plant growth and causes plants to need less water. Without CO2 there would be no life (food) on Earth. The 120 ppm of CO2 added to the atmosphere since the start of the industrial revolution has caused an average increase in worldwide plant growth of over 12 percent and of 18 percent for trees.

There is not a single instance of CO2 being a pollutant. Ask any chemistry professor. The only thing being polluted is your mind or the minds of your children.

Spin Cycle: Carbon Dioxide Is NOT “Carbon Pollution”
By PAUL C. "CHIP" KNAPPENBERGER and PATRICK J. MICHAELS
visit the inaugural edition.



President Obama is keen on calling carbon dioxide emitted from our nation’s fossil fuel-powered energy production, “carbon pollution.” For example, last week, when introducing EPA’s Clean Power Plan—new regulations limiting carbon dioxide emissions from the power plants that currently produce 67 percent of the country’s electricity—he used the term “carbon pollution” ten times. For example:

Right now, our power plants are the source of about a third of America’s carbon pollution. That’s more pollution than our cars, our airplanes and our homes generate combined. That pollution contributes to climate change, which degrades the air our kids breathe. But there have never been federal limits on the amount of carbon that power plants can dump into the air. Think about that. We limit the amount of toxic chemicals like mercury and sulfur and arsenic in our air or our water – and we’re better off for it. But existing power plants can still dump unlimited amounts of harmful carbon pollutioninto the air. [emphasis added]

Clearly, he is trying to paint a picture for the American public whereby carbon dioxide emissions are thought of as dirty, noxious substances that invade the air we breathe and make us sick. Who wouldn’t support regulation to try to limit such a menace?

But, this is scientifically inaccurate and, no doubt, intentionally misleading. It reflects poorly on the president and on his scientific advisors.

First and foremost, carbon dioxide is a colorless, odorless gas that is non-toxic to humans at concentrations below some tens of thousands of parts per million (ppm). The current carbon dioxide concentration in the atmosphere is 400 ppm and even worst case projections by the end of the century only put the concentration at 800-1000ppm. This is still some 5-6 times below the government’s recommended exposure limits. No one breathing open, well-mixed air* has ever been sickened from breathing carbon dioxide—nor ever will be.

Secondly, far from being sickened, the planet’s plant life is invigorated by carbon dioxide—the more the merrier. High concentrations (~1,000ppm) of carbon dioxide are routinely used in commercial greenhouses to produce faster growing and more robust plants. Scientific studies have shown that as carbon dioxide concentrations rise, plants become more resilient to environmental stressors, more efficient in their use of water, and more productive. A recent estimate has pegged the economic contribution of human carbon dioxide emissions to date, acting via increased crop production, at $3.2 trillion over the past 50 years and estimates an additional $10 trillion by mid-century. Pretty good for a “harmful” pollutant.

Thirdly, referring to carbon dioxide as “carbon pollution” is just plain scientifically inaccurate.

A carbon dioxide molecule is made up of two atoms of oxygen and one atom of carbon. Under the president’s apparent logic, wouldn’t it be twice as apt to term carbon dioxide “oxygen pollution”? But, we think, everyone would agree that would be deeply misinformative. So, too, everyone should agree, is applying the term “carbon pollution.”

In fact, carbon pollution already exists—it is more commonly called “soot,” the tiny elemental carbon particles that result from incomplete combustion. Soot is black, dirty, and oily, and not only makes an environmental mess, but is also dangerous to breathe. It is just what you expect a “pollutant” to be. And, it is already highly regulated by the EPA. So Obama’s statement that “existing power plants can still dump unlimited amounts of harmful carbon pollution into the air” is factually incorrect.

And finally, the carbon dioxide emitted from power plants is part and parcel of the chemistry of combustion. It is not some sort or gas or particle that is produced as a result of impurities in the fuels and can be separated from the process—it IS the process. Adding heat to hydrocarbons, such as fossil fuels (like coal, natural gas, or oil) in the presence of oxygen starts a chemical reaction that releases more heat (in excess of what was original applied) along with carbon dioxide and water (CO2, and H2O)**. Consequently, the power plants that the President refers to as being able to “dump unlimited amounts of harmful carbon pollution into the air” aren’t so much polluting as simply doing their job, the one that we ask of them—to produce the power that drives modern society and our way of life.

By calling carbon dioxide emissions “carbon pollution” President Obama and his EPA seek not to be scientifically accurate, but rather to sway public opinion in support of voluminous regulations aimed to restrict energy choice, not only here, but through his leadership aspirations, abroad (e.g., at the upcoming UN climate conference this December in Paris). For this, we award him 2.5 spin cycles—somewhere between Slightly Soiled and Normal Wash—in other words, the standard modus operandi of the federal government.



*There have been documented, although quite rare, occurrences of sudden carbon dioxide outgassing events associated with volcanic activity that have led to high fatalities in affected areas.

** In fact, it is similar to the process your body uses to power itself (in this case metabolism rather than combustion), breaking apart carbohydrates into carbon dioxide and water and liberating energy. Just as power plants emit H2O and CO2 into the air, so do you. The biggest difference, from a climate standpoint anyway, is that the carbohydrates you ingest were taken out of the air recently by plants (via photosynthesis), while the hydrocarbons ingested by power plants were taken out of the air by plants millions of years ago (and have been geologically converted and stored in the form of fossil fuels). Consequently, the collective breath of humanity does not lead to a build-up of CO2 in the atmosphere, whereas the collective breath of fossil fuel-powered electricity generating facilities does.
 

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Facts are troublesome things. Maybe Gorsuch will cast the deciding vote if this get revisited. This decision was made during the Bush admin w/Scalia on the court.

The planet can't survive without CO2. Plants can't survive, trees can't survive. LOL. Yeah, that a real pollutant. Libs on SCOTUS will go along with whatever Obama told them to do. The SCOTUS ruling means nothing.
 

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Who cares, ***** grabber is the one with his compound in Miami. Surprised he didn't name it in English.
 

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You're right, SCOTUS rulings mean nothing. Good call.

This ruling means nothing. The good news is as the Liberals leave the court, Trump will appoint people who actually believe in the Constitution.
 
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This rolling means nothing. The good news is as the Liberals leave the court, Trump will appoint people who actually believe in the Constitution.
lol whatever you say. Of course the court was right leaning (Scalia was there) when the CO2 ruling was made.
 

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lol whatever you say. Of course the court was right leaning (Scalia was there) when the CO2 ruling was made.

Again, Scotus is absolutely wrong. CO2 is not a pollutant it is essential for the creation and sustainability of life.
 

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Again, Scotus is absolutely wrong. CO2 is not a pollutant it is essential for the creation and sustainability of life.
You know that water is a poison if you drink too much of it, right?
 

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No, it's not. The water doesn't poison you. You flush the electrolytes out of your system.

CO2, absolutely essential for life, is a pollutant, LOL. They must have a very different definition of pollutants than I do.
 

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CO2, absolutely essential for life, is a pollutant, LOL. They must have a very different definition of pollutants than I do.
You know what they say, too much of a good thing....not so good.
 

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I remember it vividly. The coming ice age. This is a giant scheme to get rich nations to redistribute trillions to developing countries so that they don't have to use fossil fuels. A U.N. executive has already said this approach gives the U.N. the best opportunity to rid the world of capitalism.

I saw that, I wonder what they did to her for letting that slip?