Trump says ‘We must fight’ hard-line conservative Freedom Caucus in 2018 midterm elections
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Or when he said he supported a woman's right to choose, or said the Bill Clinton was a great President, or when he said Hillary was doing great a Sec of State.....
A lot of smart people and some not so smart as well, predicted that a Trump presidency would end the GOP as we know it. This is just the start of that. Don't be surprised to see the GOP splinter into two or three different parties instead of congressional caucuses.
You called my post BS. All I said was that he isn't and never was Conservative.
I'm lost? How do you know?
You're the leading the way.
I don't care if "big business" asked me to take it in the other end boomer, no way they get near me with either deviant proposal.
However on the other hand I'll bet you'd sacrifice your first born just to see Leviathan reach emancipation from our Constitutional limits, and make you wipe them out in their Mommy's tummy before you even get a chance to hold them?
Well, Darth Bannon was right about one thing. Biff would be the means to a massive change in DC.
lol Ask him to provide an example anywhere in the world where single payer healthcare is in plave
Yawn, when you guys lose it is time to pivot to the long settled abortion issue,
Trump knows the ACA can't last. He now knows the proposed AHCA isn't the answer. A free market, consumer driven alternative is the answer and Trump knows that's where the Freedom Caucus is and he will meet them there in order to win a repeal and replace of the ACA.
Even the Democrats aren't fighting to keep that Turkey as is.
He compared me to being Gay because I do favor free enterprise and I compared him to being in favor of infanticide because he loves big Government.
Fair fight no?
Who's "abandoning" Trump? He declared war on Conservatives and you guys are cheering him on.
We're saying he will understand his best chances to win are joining with his party's base, not attacking them. We stand ready to welcome him to our way of seeing things. It's his choice if he decides to go against us.
We don't need him to validate our principles, he needs us to help him find out what his are?
So his parties base is the Freedom Caucus? And if he embraces them than the blue state GOP members will fall in line, OK, lol no wonder you guys elected an idiot.
Didn't think no you would go lower than I did, but I guess there's really no limit for you is there
No one is cheering him on....I think everyone posting on this thread (but you) are just laughing at his poor political tactics and lack of real integrity, and imaging how big the explosion will be once his ego swells too big for the office he holds
The Republican party is vast and wide. There are RINOs, and yes Conservatives. Trump wins when he embraces the principles of the party's base. Conservatives. Neil Gorsuch is Conservative. His choice destroys the Left's hold over judicial nominees for the next three decades thanks to Harry Reid.
When Trump and Conservatives agree on a market based solution for Health care that removes all Government mandates and controls over Insurance companies and Health care providers, he will win a repeal of the ACA and it's replacement will mean lower costs and better care for all Americans free to choose care that they both need and can afford.
Free market Conservatives in his own party are his winning formula, and he's smart enough hopefully to understand that.
Just like the Left is dumb enough to place it's most radical big Government control elements in charge of the Democrat party (ie: Perez and Ellison) and will continue to suffer massive defeats come election time for Americans to choose who's philosophy is better?
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Oh I could have sworn you guys were all "ga-ga" over Trump declaring open warfare over Conservatives?
So you disagree with him targeting them?
Disagree? Does an enemy actually disagree with foolish moves made by their enemy? I guess I don't really understand the question
You started it, I finished it I guess? You bring it (homosexuality) up with me so much boomer, I'm starting to think you really do want to jump my bones?
If you guys on the Left think Trump is making a mistake attacking his base say so. If you agree with him he should and it is a winning formula say so?
What are you mocking Trump over? I don't understand what you guys are so perplexed about? Trump's NOT Conservative. OK, tell us something we didn't know?
I've never met a Leftist boomer who favors limited Government and lower taxation. Is there such a creature who's allegiance is first to Leviathan?
Who is perplexed? I'm just laughing at the folly of it all, and as far a single payer health plan with no Government oversight, ya';ll be the first, in the world, to come up with one. Good luck!
Of course you are ready to argue that Government controls over health care are working? You have not been forced to endure an afternoon at a VA hospital with your Dad like I have with mine.
You probably don't know any Families like I do who have lost their health care insurance because the ACA has caused their premiums to triple, and they don't qualify for any phony Government "subsidies".
Yes, give us more Government control over health care...it's working beautifully. Even Democrats admit to its stunning success.
You don't have a lock on Patriotism, I only go to the VA as does my Dad and I know we don't have universal Healthcare with the ACA. I also know Ryan and the Freedom Caucus does' nt want that either. there is your Problem in a nutshell, that and what Trump promised the base, Better Obamacare at cheaper rates for EVERYONE, would love to see you deliver on that.
I agree with you. Have said so (several times in this thread). Also said he wants to win, and will do whatever it takes to do that.
I'm suggesting he wins with Conservative principles, and I hope he understands that. If doesn't, then you're right he will go down in flames as one of the biggest political flame outs in history.
What saves him?
Conservatism.
Nope wrong. He promised to repeal the ACA and replace it with something better. The something offered was not better, it was just as bad in many ways. That's why it lost.
If we get a replacement, it won't look anything like the ACA, or the AHCA. It will look like Freedom.
I do claim Patriotism for that (Freedom) because for me there is no substitute.
You think Ryan or the Freedom Caucus want something better? They voted to repeal it 60 some times while Obama was in office, the only reason they added replace was because they knew repeal would screw people, at least the blue state GOPers did, they hated the replacement for entirely different reasons than did the Freedom Caucus, but hey, maybe Trump will herd those cats toward a better cheaper Obamacare for all.
One can only hope, but the Freedom Caucus has the solution that can win...Trump simply needs to embrace it and it's a done deal.
I would not rule it out or him seeing it as his answer to get rid of the ACA.
But he's not conservative. Regardless how hard you try to spoon feed political ideals to him, it won't happen.
You have to understand something. I was correct from the get go in saying he would win after I surveyed the bunch of dumb asses he was running against......both Dem and Repub. He was never a conservative. You were never correct about him. You said Hillary would be the next POTUS........WRONG.