Trump Supporters Victims of Gaslighting....

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To “gaslight” someone isn’t just to lie to them or to manipulate their emotions. It is a deliberate attempt to deceive someone into questioning their own perception of reality.

It wasn’t until late 2015 that we began to see “gaslighting” applied to Trump. Among the first to do so was conservative pundit Matt K. Lewis, in a November 2015 article for the Telegraph: “Any introspective person covering Mr Trump will eventually have to grapple with whether or not they want to believe The Donald or their lying eyes.”

And then, even some psychologists took up the idea, drawing parallels between Trump’s actions and the classic tricks of gaslighting — such as undermining the victim’s perspective, controlling the topic of conversation and forcefully denying the truth.

Leah McElrath, a psychotherapist and political activist, analyzed Trump’s quasi-apology after the release of the notorious “Access Hollywood” video in which he made vulgar comments bragging about assaulting women.

Trump’s insistence that “these words do not reflect who I am” amounted to gaslighting, McElrath wrote — similar to the language she’s heard from domestic abusers — effectively telling the public that “the reality you just experienced didn’t actually happen.” (Her Twitter thread on the subject was retweeted thousands of times.)

“It’s quite obvious to see that there’s some form of manipulation going on,” Joshi says. “We’re going to have to read ourselves out of it. We need multiple sources. We should be critical of everything — even the word ‘gaslighting’ itself.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...3c4b4fb5a63_story.html?utm_term=.e5a5d0ca5c7c
 
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Teen Vogue? Teen Vogue?? Come on guy.
Mentioned in other articles, so posted here in fairness to the other reports.

And vehement denial is one of the presentations of having been gaslighted. Just like "Media Bias" or "so-called judge".
 

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Mentioned in other articles, so posted here in fairness to the other reports.

And vehement denial is one of the presentations of having been gaslighted. Just like "Media Bias" or "so-called judge".
Do you guys not get that the people who voted for him are not driven or motivated by social justice and the decorum of urban society? They want jobs and if it means kissing the ring of Satan every day, they will, as long as they can work and restore dignity to themselves that was lost. Trump promised that, whether he can deliver it or not is a different story. The left delivered 8 years of social justice reforms and a weak economy. That's why they lost. You all have been gaslighted to think social justice trumps personal dignity and greenbacks in the pants pocket.

By all means, keep thinking the music matters more than the boat sinking into the water.
 

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Do all supporters trust Trump? Bannon?

Nope, I don't. Willing to let them at least have a couple weeks *eyeroll* to start getting things done. I will call them out when necessary. So far let it ride. I am not happy that it is taking them so long to get started on Obamacare. The medical device tax bit me this year. Putting everyone else in my family first, I can't afford to go to the doctor. But illegals sure get their coverage.
 

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Nope, I don't. Willing to let them at least have a couple weeks *eyeroll* to start getting things done. I will call them out when necessary. So far let it ride. I am not happy that it is taking them so long to get started on Obamacare. The medical device tax bit me this year. Putting everyone else in my family first, I can't afford to go to the doctor. But illegals sure get their coverage.
#poor
 

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Do you guys not get that the people who voted for him are not driven or motivated by social justice and the decorum of urban society? They want jobs and if it means kissing the ring of Satan every day, they will, as long as they can work and restore dignity to themselves that was lost. Trump promised that, whether he can deliver it or not is a different story. The left delivered 8 years of social justice reforms and a weak economy. That's why they lost. You all have been gaslighted to think social justice trumps personal dignity and greenbacks in the pants pocket.

By all means, keep thinking the music matters more than the boat sinking into the water.
My neighbor is from Wisconsin, manager position at a production plant. Plant shut down, he moved....found a better job, tells me the best decision he ever made was moving. It's hard for me to feel like everyone has been left out in the cold here (this is my 5th state) we took on debt to do better. Maybe I'm just seeing my perspective here, but it seems like Americans have become almost entitled. They want the jobs to come to them, they want to control where and what they do a little more than what's natural. I think most small business owners have struggled mightily at some point in their lives. Executives have moved once or twice following opportunity. Why should it be different for the working class? It wasn't for me
 

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My neighbor is from Wisconsin, manager position at a production plant. Plant shut down, he moved....found a better job, tells me the best decision he ever made was moving. It's hard for me to feel like everyone has been left out in the cold here (this is my 5th state) we took on debt to do better. Maybe I'm just seeing my perspective here, but it seems like Americans have become almost entitled. They want the jobs to come to them, they want to control where and what they do a little more than what's natural. I think most small business owners have struggled mightily at some point in their lives. Executives have moved once or twice following opportunity. Why should it be different for the working class? It wasn't for me

I moved to NC and getting out of Appalachia was the best thing I ever did in my life. I still see the struggling throughout WV to the NC mountains. I see the struggling my urban African American friends go through. You live a sheltered life.
 

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I moved to NC and getting out of Appalachia was the best thing I ever did in my life. I still see the struggling throughout WV to the NC mountains. I see the struggling my urban African American friends go through. You live a sheltered life.
I've lived in Miami, Memphis, and Cincinnati, I'm not sheltered at all. I see the struggle. I teach inner city schools to help inspire kids to seek solutions in college and outside of their failing communities. I am just not a fan of the oval or Congress attempting to manipulate the market to create jobs. It's one of the areas where Republicans are right in my opinion. Economic growth will come through innovation in technology, it's just not here yet. It's a down cycle time for American production, up cycle time for globalization. I think it will come round again naturally. I don't trust a President picking and choosing what companies get incentives and what industries get supported.
 

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I've lived in Miami, Memphis, and Cincinnati, I'm not sheltered at all. I see the struggle. I teach inner city schools to help inspire kids to seek solutions in college and outside of their failing communities. I am just not a fan of the oval or Congress attempting to manipulate the market to create jobs. It's one of the areas where Republicans are right in my opinion. Economic growth will come through innovation in technology, it's just not here yet. It's a down cycle time for American production, up cycle time for globalization. I think it will come round again naturally. I don't trust a President picking and choosing what companies get incentives and what industries get supported.

Innovation only goes so far. Business chases the cheapest labor. Our government, Democrat and Republican, has sold out in so many ways to only make it easier on big business to do so, and has sold the American people down the road.
 

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Mentioned in other articles, so posted here in fairness to the other reports.

And vehement denial is one of the presentations of having been gaslighted. Just like "Media Bias" or "so-called judge".
Vehement denial couldn’t be the reaction to an obviously fallacious position born from obvious bias? It only comes from being gaslighted? Does being gaslighted also present as holding an obviously biased position and citing Teen Vogue as the source, or is that just being full of hot air?
 
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Vehement denial couldn’t be the reaction to an obviously fallacious position born from obvious bias? It only comes from being gaslighted? Does being gaslighted also present as holding an obviously biased position and citing Teen Vogue as the source, or is that just being full of hot air?
Denial with cause, justified.
Denial without cause, gaslighted.

And the Teen Vogue link was only included to be fair to the other two stories which quoted the original work. It may have shown "bias" to have intentionally excluded the source document, so it was cited. However, the gaslight effect with relation to Trump was first mentioned in 2015 article by a conservative writer; author from Teen Vogue just picked up on it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...publicans-are-suspending-their-disbelief.html
 

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Innovation only goes so far. Business chases the cheapest labor. Our government, Democrat and Republican, has sold out in so many ways to only make it easier on big business to do so, and has sold the American people down the road.
I don't deny that both parties are guilty of not doing their jobs.
 

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Innovation only goes so far. Business chases the cheapest labor. Our government, Democrat and Republican, has sold out in so many ways to only make it easier on big business to do so, and has sold the American people down the road.
Where do you stand on Sanders infrastructure plan to create jobs?
 

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Then we have another medicare on our hands. No Thatnks
His jobs platform uses giant public works projects (such as rebuilding bridges and roads, building train systems, etc..) that would put people to work throughout the country. It makes more sense to me than trusting Trump, his cabinet, and a reactionary congress to use a tax and tariff system to create jobs. I don't like the precedent it sets in the relationship between government and business.
 

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I've lived in Miami, Memphis, and Cincinnati, I'm not sheltered at all. I see the struggle. I teach inner city schools to help inspire kids to seek solutions in college and outside of their failing communities. I am just not a fan of the oval or Congress attempting to manipulate the market to create jobs. It's one of the areas where Republicans are right in my opinion. Economic growth will come through innovation in technology, it's just not here yet. It's a down cycle time for American production, up cycle time for globalization. I think it will come round again naturally. I don't trust a President picking and choosing what companies get incentives and what industries get supported.
So.....did you "TRUST " Ovomit? Inquiring minds want to know. .
 

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Innovation only goes so far. Business chases the cheapest labor. Our government, Democrat and Republican, has sold out in so many ways to only make it easier on big business to do so, and has sold the American people down the road.
It's a shame that it took this long for many of us to find out that the dumbs and rinos had formed an allegiance back in 85' to totally undermine our nation and our culture. .thank God the floodlights of truth and patriotism is starting to finally show illumination on the treasonous bastars and whores!
 

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It's a shame that it took this long for many of us to find out that the dumbs and rinos had formed an allegiance back in 85' to totally undermine our nation and our culture. .thank God the floodlights of truth and patriotism is starting to finally show illumination on the treasonous bastars and whores!
lol.
 

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It's a shame that it took this long for many of us to find out that the dumbs and rinos had formed an allegiance back in 85' to totally undermine our nation and our culture. .thank God the floodlights of truth and patriotism is starting to finally show illumination on the treasonous bastars and whores!

I knew it when I went to see Ron Brown have a sales pitch over NAFTA in southern WV. I think that was about 1990.
 

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So.....did you "TRUST " Ovomit? Inquiring minds want to know. .
No. I did through the primaries in 2008, once he took the big money in the General I was suspect. I thought he did it to win, and once in the oval he would stay true to his self. By 2012, I voted Romney. At the end of his second term, I think he played political football and lost a lot of ground, gained some. I like that he tried to change our approach to certain things, but I think he lost by an extra point on the scoreboard.
 

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Do you guys not get that the people who voted for him are not driven or motivated by social justice and the decorum of urban society? They want jobs and if it means kissing the ring of Satan every day, they will, as long as they can work and restore dignity to themselves that was lost. Trump promised that, whether he can deliver it or not is a different story. The left delivered 8 years of social justice reforms and a weak economy. That's why they lost. You all have been gaslighted to think social justice trumps personal dignity and greenbacks in the pants pocket.

By all means, keep thinking the music matters more than the boat sinking into the water.
Get off your lazy asses and get the jobs the scary black man offered. Pretending they're not there because no one's holding your hand to the plant gate is laughable.
 

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No. I did through the primaries in 2008, once he took the big money in the General I was suspect. I thought he did it to win, and once in the oval he would stay true to his self. By 2012, I voted Romney. At the end of his second term, I think he played political football and lost a lot of ground, gained some. I like that he tried to change our approach to certain things, but I think he lost by an extra point on the scoreboard.
Wow...Boom, I think I could ACTUALLY sit by you in a public "space" and not assail you..are you an independent? Color me shocked, MAYBE atlkvb, you and I could have tailgate and crack one or two.. thanks so much,for helping me to better understand your arguments and political positions..I MEAN THIS IN ALL SINCERITY. .L.C.