Trump to clamp down on Cuba travel, trade, curbing owebama's detente

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President Donald Trump on Friday will announce plans to tighten restrictions on Americans traveling to Cuba and clamp down on U.S. business dealings with the island’s military, rolling back parts of former President Barack Obama’s historic opening to Havana.

Laying out his new Cuba policy in a speech in Miami, Trump will issue a presidential directive to reverse some of the loosened regulations that Obama introduced after a 2014 breakthrough between the two former Cold War foes, senior White House officials said.

Trump, taking a tougher approach against Havana after promising to do so during the presidential campaign, will outline stricter enforcement of a long-time ban on Americans going to Cuba as tourists and will seek to prevent U.S. dollars from being used to fund what the new U.S. administration sees as a repressive military-dominated government.


But, facing pressure from U.S. business and some of his fellow Republicans to avoid turning back the clock completely in relations with communist-ruled Cuba, he also will leave intact many of Obama’s steps toward normalization.

The new policy will ban most U.S. business transactions with the Armed Forces Business Enterprises Group (GAESA), a sprawling conglomerate involved in all sectors of the economy, but make some exceptions, including for air and sea travel, the officials said. This will essentially shield U.S. airlines and cruise-ship companies now serving the island.

However, Trump will stop short of closing embassies or breaking diplomatic relations restored in 2015 after more than five decades of hostility and will not cut off recently resumed direct U.S.-Cuba commercial flights - though his more restrictive policy seems certain to dampen new economic ties.

The administration, according to one White House official, does not intend to “disrupt” existing business ventures such as one struck under Obama by Starwood Hotels, which is owned by Marriott International Inc, to manage a Havana hotel.

Nor are there plans to reinstate limits that Obama lifted on the amount of the island’s coveted rum and cigars that Americans can bring home for personal use.

As a result, the changes – though far-reaching – appear to be less sweeping than many U.S. pro-engagement advocates had feared.



HUMAN RIGHTS

Trump will justify his partial reversal of Obama’s measures to a large extent on human rights grounds. His aides contend that Obama’s easing of U.S. restrictions amounted to "appeasement" and has done nothing to advance political freedoms in Cuba, while benefiting the Cuban government financially.

Saying that the aim was to repair what Trump has called a “bad deal” struck by Obama, U.S. officials said the new administration would leave the door open to improved relations if Cuba undertakes democratic reforms such as allowing free elections and releasing political prisoners.

International human rights groups say, however, that reinstating a U.S. policy of isolating the island could make the situation worse by empowering Cuban hardliners. The Cuban government has made clear it will not be pressured into reforms in exchange for further engagement with Washington.

“If you want Cuba to change and reform, we are doing the opposite of what would be most likely to bring about reforms,” said Ben Rhodes, a former Obama aide who helped negotiate rapprochement.

Trump’s critics have also questioned why his administration is now singling out Cuba for its human rights record while downplaying the issue in other parts of the world.

Trump will announce his new approach early Friday afternoon at the Manuel Artime Theater in Miami’s Little Havana, the heart of America’s largest Cuban-American community, whose support aides believe helped him win Florida in the election. Republican Senator Marco Rubio, a key player in forging the new policy, was expected to attend along with other Cuban-American lawmakers.

Under Trump’s order, the Treasury and Commerce Departments will be given 30 days to begin writing new regulations and they will not take effect until they are complete. No deadline has been set, the officials said.

Under the revised travel policy, U.S. officials say there will be tighter enforcement to make sure Americans legally fit the 12 authorized categories they claim to be traveling under, which could spook many visitors, wary of receiving a hefty fine.

While tourism to Cuba is banned by U.S. law, the Obama administration had been allowing people to travel to Cuba as part of “people to people” educational trips for visitors, a popular classification that a White House official said was “ripe for abuse” by those looking for beach vacations.

Trump’s new policy will eliminate such self-certified visits by individuals while still allowing them to be done as group tours, and also retaining some individual travel under other authorized categories such as religious, artistic and journalistic activities, officials said.


In a contentious internal debate, some aides argued that Trump, a former real estate magnate who won the presidency promising to unleash U.S. business and create jobs, would have a hard time defending any moves that close off the Cuban market.

But other advisers have contended that it is important to make good on a campaign promise to Cuban-Americans.
 

Airport

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Did he do that 2 yrs prior to Election Day? And ex-cons are notoriously politically engaged aren't they?
Just a joke. Ex cons are no more political than anybody else. How many released felons have been returned to jail? Or dead? Meanwhile, it took trump 5 months to get warmbier released while Obama filled out NCAA brackets. I hope now we try to get the physician the Pakistani are holding released.
 

op2

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Obamas release of felons was securing Illinois, New York and California's electoral votes

In New York and California felons can't vote right after they get out of jail and instead have to fully complete their sentence (parole, yadda, yadda). Not that it matters since the electoral votes from those two states go to the Democrat no matter what.
 

Airport

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In New York and California felons can't vote right after they get out of jail and instead have to fully complete their sentence (parole, yadda, yadda). Not that it matters since the electoral votes from those two states go to the Democrat no matter what.
Don't want to piss off all the relatives.:sunglasses:
 

WVPATX

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Do you EVER have thoughts of your own, or does everyone else always do the talking for you?

Don't take offense WV82, Boom is just mad that his idol's policies are being disassembled right before his eyes. When you rule with a pen and a phone, this stuff happens.
 

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Don't take offense WV82, Boom is just mad that his idol's policies are being disassembled right before his eyes. When you rule with a pen and a phone, this stuff happens.
Idol? The last place I'd look for an idol is in Congress or the WH
 

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mule_eer

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When in reality, this really only makes travel be as part of a tour group. So those are going to keep you further from the small businesses and have you spending money in the larger government run ones. It will have the opposite effect that it claims. But the people wanted someone who wasn't a politician, someone who made 1 minor change to a policy but herald it as a return to the original policy.

He cited the embargo - never lifted. It's all window dressing in order to play politics.
 

Boomboom521

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When in reality, this really only makes travel be as part of a tour group. So those are going to keep you further from the small businesses and have you spending money in the larger government run ones. It will have the opposite effect that it claims. But the people wanted someone who wasn't a politician, someone who made 1 minor change to a policy but herald it as a return to the original policy.

He cited the embargo - never lifted. It's all window dressing in order to play politics.
And win Florida...he announced in Miami
 

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When in reality, this really only makes travel be as part of a tour group. So those are going to keep you further from the small businesses and have you spending money in the larger government run ones. It will have the opposite effect that it claims. But the people wanted someone who wasn't a politician, someone who made 1 minor change to a policy but herald it as a return to the original policy.

He cited the embargo - never lifted. It's all window dressing in order to play politics.
Mule, that's not the analysis I've read

You can still take flights there, and you can s take cruises there. Once there, you can go and do anything you want. We effectively cancelled some business dealings direct with the Regime. That's about it.
 

mule_eer

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Mule, that's not the analysis I've read

You can still take flights there, and you can s take cruises there. Once there, you can go and do anything you want. We effectively cancelled some business dealings direct with the Regime. That's about it.
The last stance allowed solo "educational" trips. This pulls it back to group educational trips. The tourism ban has to be lifted by Congress, same for the embargo.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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The last stance allowed solo "educational" trips. This pulls it back to group educational trips. The tourism ban has to be lifted by Congress, same for the embargo.
What last stance? Obama or pre-Obama? You could go on educational trips pre-Obama, you could go via Canada as well. You could also take a boat from the Bahamas or the Caymans.

Obama you could travel at will. The issue with his stance is that we started doing business with the Regime.

Trump plan just cancels the business aspect.
 

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How many more years must the failed trade embargo be in place before the Right gets that it's a failed policy? Talk about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Yes, it's popular with the Red Menace wackos and the Batista expat crowd in Little Havana, but the Castro regime has outlasted 11 presidents and counting with the embargo in place ... and the Castro days are numbered. You'd think a savvy businessman like Herr Trump would be salivating at the prospects.
 

PriddyBoy

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How many more years must the failed trade embargo be in place before the Right gets that it's a failed policy?
How is it failed? It's an embargo. It showed signs of failure when President Obama tried to wave it off. The Castros could have ended any time. If 50 years has taught us anything about trade with Cuba, it's that we don't NEED any goods from the Castro regime. That evil bastard will die soon. Did somebody mark the calendar on the day Cuba became a left right thing? I agree that it is, I just don't remember exactly when the political divide occurred.
 

Popeer

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How is it failed? It's an embargo. It showed signs of failure when President Obama tried to wave it off. The Castros could have ended any time. If 50 years has taught us anything about trade with Cuba, it's that we don't NEED any goods from the Castro regime. That evil bastard will die soon. Did somebody mark the calendar on the day Cuba became a left right thing? I agree that it is, I just don't remember exactly when the political divide occurred.
Its purpose was to so isolate Fidel that the communist regime would collapse - how'd that work out? Fidel outlasted it for almost 60 years through every president since Eisenhower, and Raul will outlast it for whatever bit of time he's got left - he's 86. The only thing isolated by the embargo is American businesses. As for the divide, I'm not sure that the left particularly opposes the embargo, but the right clings to it as an anti-Communist ideal.