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The Troll in chief is apparently all in on craving a full on feud with the press. He's kind of jumping the shark with this one, seems a little early for that. He's such a drama queen but I guess this is how it's going to be for the next 4 years. I'm not sure that he'll accomplish one thing with it but I can guarantee that the media will be on his *** 24/7 for the rest his term which I guess is what he wants so good luck to him. I do think that what he's doing is irresponsible though, sad!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-people/ar-AAn42dE?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
 
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moe said:
The Troll in chief is apparently all in on craving a full on feud with the press. He's kind of jumping the shark with this one, seems a little early for that. He's such a drama queen but I guess this is how it's going to be for the next 4 years. I'm not sure that he'll accomplish one thing with it but I can guarantee that the media will be on his *** 24/7 for the rest his term which I guess is what he wants so good luck to him. I do think that what he's doing is irresponsible though, sad!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-people/ar-AAn42dE?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
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Delegitimize those who'll lead to your doom.
 
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moe said:
The Troll in chief is apparently all in on craving a full on feud with the press. He's kind of jumping the shark with this one, seems a little early for that. He's such a drama queen but I guess this is how it's going to be for the next 4 years. I'm not sure that he'll accomplish one thing with it but I can guarantee that the media will be on his *** 24/7 for the rest his term which I guess is what he wants so good luck to him. I do think that what he's doing is irresponsible though, sad!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-people/ar-AAn42dE?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
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That is BS if you are suggesting he would be afforded good press going in a different direction. Trump knows it is BS and will bypass press and go directly to people. I think Trump's real objective is to close the NYT. Then WP. Add a couple TV networks and the next Republican will get a fair deal. If Trump fails, the Repubs will be no worse off.
 
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bamaEER said:
Delegitimize those who'll lead to your doom.
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He can whine and cry all he wants but if/when he does something bad enough that Congress can't ignore it and they end up with the goods on him, his cries of fake media, etc. will do him no good. He's the great divider. He wants to play the WWF villain or victim (not sure) though I'm not sure that those story lines will play in real life when you can't control the script.
 
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moe said:
He can whine and cry all he wants but if/when he does something bad enough that Congress can't ignore it and they end up with the goods on him, his cries of fake media, etc. will do him no good. He's the great divider. He wants to play the WWF villain or victim (not sure) though I'm not sure that those story lines will play in real life when you can't control the script.
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Let us know how that works out.
 
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mneilmont said:
That is BS if you are suggesting he would be afforded good press going in a different direction. Trump knows it is BS and will bypass press and go directly to people. I think Trump's real objective is to close the NYT. Then WP. Add a couple TV networks and the next Republican will get a fair deal. If Trump fails, the Repubs will be no worse off.
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NY Times subscriptions doubled in 2016
http://thehill.com/media/317531-ny-times-subscriptions-doubled-in-2016
The newspaper said it had an increase of 41,000 paid subscriptions on both the print and digital fronts in the seven-day period following Election Day, and that it added more digital subscriptions in the last three months of 2016 than all of 2013 and 2014 combined.
 
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It's going to be a long 4 years for both the media and Trump. On one hand he makes valid points about their rush to judgement when it comes to all things Trump, and the lens through which they report the "news". On the other hand he's got to understand that they are not suddenly going to stop reporting on him or stop doing what they've been doing.

He'd be better suited to find a stable, calm, personable, individual who spends the day "fact checking" stories that are clearly wrong, and responding in a calm and clear manner.

Enough with the Twitter wars. I'm beginning to think he secretly owns a **** ton of Twitter stock.
 
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moe said:
The Troll in chief is apparently all in on craving a full on feud with the press. He's kind of jumping the shark with this one, seems a little early for that. He's such a drama queen but I guess this is how it's going to be for the next 4 years. I'm not sure that he'll accomplish one thing with it but I can guarantee that the media will be on his *** 24/7 for the rest his term which I guess is what he wants so good luck to him. I do think that what he's doing is irresponsible though, sad!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-people/ar-AAn42dE?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
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See Moe the fatal mistake you and the rest of Trump's detractors are making is thinking people are upset with him for going after the Media.

As many on the Right who post on this board have tried to tell you, the Media is hated by a vast majority of the American people. Not only hated, but thoroughly mistrusted.

Trump gets no negative ratings from going after the Media on Twitter or anyplace else, in fact it's helping him establish even more credibility. You think more people are upset with him for calling out the Media?

Wrong.

They're cheering him on. Trust them (Media) if you wish but the more outrage they show against Trump trying to discredit him, the greater his appeal to more people becomes.

What's so delicious in this irony, is you folks on the Left and the Media still haven't figured this out. You think he is hurting himself attacking them and their obvious bias against him, and all the while he's taking them out to the applause of everyone who is totally disgusting by them.

Carry on.
 
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mneilmont said:
That is BS if you are suggesting he would be afforded good press going in a different direction. Trump knows it is BS and will bypass press and go directly to people. I think Trump's real objective is to close the NYT. Then WP. Add a couple TV networks and the next Republican will get a fair deal. If Trump fails, the Repubs will be no worse off.
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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

---MARTIN NIEMÖLLER - 1892 - 1984 --
 
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WVex-pat in GA said:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

---MARTIN NIEMÖLLER - 1892 - 1984 --
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So Trump calling out the media's bias is the same thing? Surely you can't believe that? The only President that I know that went after a reporter and the reporter's family was Obama with the James Rosen situation.

Trump is going to call out the media, go around the media, not arrest or kill them. Ridiculous analogy.
 
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So Trump calling out the media's bias is the same thing? Surely you can't believe that? The only President that I know that went after a reporter and the reporter's family was Obama with the James Rosen situation.

Trump is going to call out the media, go around the media, not arrest or kill them. Ridiculous analogy.
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The vast majority of the American people agree with Trump, the Media is dishonest. They are not abandoning him as he points out their rampant bias and corruption.

Exactly the opposite.
 
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Until there is no one to speak up, which is what Trump wants.
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Utter BS. Trump is providing a voice to the American people regarding MSM corruption. No one trusts or believes them. John Dickerson of CBS said yesterday, that Trump's not to blame for the media's current predicament (e.g. lack of trust). He said the media only has itself to blame.

Just report the facts. Report on both sides of an issue. Stay neutral. Don't editorialize. And for goodness sake, ideologically diversify your newsrooms. The editor of the NY Times admitted that they "just don't get religion." How is this possible?
 
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WVPATX said:
Utter BS. Trump is providing a voice to the American people regarding MSM corruption. No one trusts or believes them. John Dickerson of CBS said yesterday, that Trump's not to blame for the media's current predicament (e.g. lack of trust). He said the media only has itself to blame.

Just report the facts. Report on both sides of an issue. Stay neutral. Don't editorialize. And for goodness sake, ideologically diversify your newsrooms. The editor of the NY Times admitted that they "just don't get religion." How is this possible?
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Unreal...but at least he's honest.
 
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atlkvb said:
The vast majority of the American people agree with Trump, the Media is dishonest. They are not abandoning him as he points out their rampant bias and corruption.

Exactly the opposite.
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Wrong, I suppose all those people taking to the streets in protest don't count.

Attempting to subvert the Constitution should get him impeached.
 
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Wrong, I suppose all those people taking to the streets in protest don't count.

Attempting to subvert the Constitution should get him impeached.
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WVex-pat in GA Trump got elected taking on the Media. The American people outvoted the rent-a-mobs.

Nothing's changed. Trump's support hasn't shrank as he goes after the biased corrupt incompetent Media. He's as strong as ever with those who wanted someone in there would could take them on.
 
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WVPATX said:
Utter BS. Trump is providing a voice to the American people regarding MSM corruption. No one trusts or believes them. John Dickerson of CBS said yesterday, that Trump's not to blame for the media's current predicament (e.g. lack of trust). He said the media only has itself to blame.

Just report the facts. Report on both sides of an issue. Stay neutral. Don't editorialize. And for goodness sake, ideologically diversify your newsrooms. The editor of the NY Times admitted that they "just don't get religion." How is this possible?
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When Trump says the people don't trust the media, he doesn't know that the media outlets the people don't trust are the ones he likes -- and like him in return; probably the ones he described as "fantastic."
A recent study by Morning Consult found that the majority of the people find the major media outlets are credible. At the top, ABC News was found credible by 67%, CBS by 65%, Tthe New York Times by 63% and CNN by 60% of the public.

The averages are brought down by the likes of Breitbart, the former professional home of Trump's top adviser, Steve Bannon. Only 19% believe what they report, just ahead of the satirical site The Onion, which doesn't even claim to tell the truth, but which nevertheless was found more credible than Infowars, the wild conspiracy peddling operation of Alex Jones.
 
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WVex-pat in GA said:
Wrong, I suppose all those people taking to the streets in protest don't count.

Attempting to subvert the Constitution should get him impeached.
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Please explain to me how Trump is attempting to subvert the constitution. Please provide the basis for your answer.

Are you suggesting that presidents nor anyone else can criticize the media for being biased and corrupt? You may not understand it, but presidents have free-speech rights as well.
 
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When Trump says the people don't trust the media, he doesn't know that the media outlets the people don't trust are the ones he likes -- and like him in return; probably the ones he described as "fantastic."
A recent study by Morning Consult found that the majority of the people find the major media outlets are credible. At the top, ABC News was found credible by 67%, CBS by 65%, Tthe New York Times by 63% and CNN by 60% of the public.

The averages are brought down by the likes of Breitbart, the former professional home of Trump's top adviser, Steve Bannon. Only 19% believe what they report, just ahead of the satirical site The Onion, which doesn't even claim to tell the truth, but which nevertheless was found more credible than Infowars, the wild conspiracy peddling operation of Alex Jones.
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Far different results in this one.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/17/fox-news-most-trusted-tv-newscommentary-source-pol/

-- Americans' trust and confidence in the mass media"to report the news fully, accurately and fairly" has dropped to its lowest level in Gallup polling history, with 32% saying they have a great deal or fair amount of trust in the media. ... Gallup began asking this question in 1972, and on a yearly basis since 1997.Sep 14, 2016
 
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moe said:
He can whine and cry all he wants but if/when he does something bad enough that Congress can't ignore it and they end up with the goods on him, his cries of fake media, etc. will do him no good. He's the great divider. He wants to play the WWF villain or victim (not sure) though I'm not sure that those story lines will play in real life when you can't control the script.[/QUOThealthclaseacting thes
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He is a damn idiot. No doubt will go down in history as the moron president
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Still MAD!
 
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Donald J. TrumpVerified account‏@realDonaldTrump
The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!


The POTUS is claiming to the American people that one of the guarantees to their First Amendment rights, a free press, is incorrect; that the media is the enemy of the people and an enemy of the state. He has violated his Oath of Office.. " and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

How is declaring that the media/free press, a guarantee of the First Amendment to the Constitution, is the people's enemy preserving and protecting the First Amendment? It is an attempt to undermine it to the highest degree.
 
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WVPATX said:
Far different results in this one.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/17/fox-news-most-trusted-tv-newscommentary-source-pol/

-- Americans' trust and confidence in the mass media"to report the news fully, accurately and fairly" has dropped to its lowest level in Gallup polling history, with 32% saying they have a great deal or fair amount of trust in the media. ... Gallup began asking this question in 1972, and on a yearly basis since 1997.Sep 14, 2016
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Your link to a year old article is not for the paragraph you posted and is not supportive of your position.
 
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Donald J. TrumpVerified account‏@realDonaldTrump
The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!


The POTUS is claiming to the American people that one of the guarantees to their First Amendment rights, a free press, is incorrect; that the media is the enemy of the people and an enemy of the state. He has violated his Oath of Office.. " and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

How is declaring that the media/free press, a guarantee of the First Amendment to the Constitution, is the people's enemy preserving and protecting the First Amendment? It is an attempt to undermine it to the highest degree.
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He's not allowed to say that? Where in the Constitution does it forbade him from criticizing the media or more specifically, the NY Times, NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN?

I'll wait for you to show me what in the Constitution Trump violated.
 
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atlkvb said:
WVex-pat in GA, can you explain this?

American's Trust in Mass media sinks to new low:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/195542/americans-trust-mass-media-sinks-new-low.aspx
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Rasmussen Poll: Trump to blame for bad media

National Survey of 1,000 U.S. Likely Voters

Conducted January 11-12, 2017
By Rasmussen Reports


1* Trump has a troubled relationship with most traditional media outlets. Who’s more to blame for those problems – Trump or the media?


53% Trump
39% The media
8% Not sure


2* Should Trump try to improve his relationship with the traditional media, or should he continue to criticize them for what he considers to be their biased coverage?


63% Trump should try to improve his relationship with the traditional media
31% He should continue to criticize them for what he considers to be their biased coverage
6% Not sure


NOTE: Margin of Sampling Error, +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.






http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub.../questions_trump_and_media_january_11_12_2017
 
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He's not allowed to say that? Where in the Constitution does it forbade him from criticizing the media or more specifically, the NY Times, NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN?

I'll wait for you to show me what in the Constitution Trump violated.
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"The FAKE NEWS media is the enemy of the American People!"

Subverts the First Amendment to the Constitution, which he swore an oath to "preserve and protect"; borderline treason.
 
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WVex-pat in GA said:
"The FAKE NEWS media is the enemy of the American People!"

Subverts the First Amendment to the Constitution, which he swore an oath to "preserve and protect"; borderline treason.
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So Trump is not allowed nor is any American allowed to call the media fake news? Surely you don't believe this?

You've got to me smarter than this. How does his statement subvert the First Amendment when the First Amendment gives him the explicit right to make that statement? OMG.
 
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I don't have a subscription for the first link and the second has numbers for "media" but there's nothing there that refutes the numbers I posted above. It depends on the question being asked.
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You can't be this poorly read. Trust in the media is at all time lows. It is being reported all over the country. Even the MSM of ABC, CBS and NBC have acknowledged on their broadcasts.

John Dickerson, anchor of CBS, said this just a few days ago:

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/n...on-trump-not-blame-ruining-credibility-public
 
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WVex-pat in GA said:
Rasmussen Poll: Trump to blame for bad media

National Survey of 1,000 U.S. Likely Voters

Conducted January 11-12, 2017
By Rasmussen Reports


1* Trump has a troubled relationship with most traditional media outlets. Who’s more to blame for those problems – Trump or the media?


53% Trump
39% The media
8% Not sure


2* Should Trump try to improve his relationship with the traditional media, or should he continue to criticize them for what he considers to be their biased coverage?


63% Trump should try to improve his relationship with the traditional media
31% He should continue to criticize them for what he considers to be their biased coverage
6% Not sure


NOTE: Margin of Sampling Error, +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.






http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub.../questions_trump_and_media_january_11_12_2017
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So if you really want to see Trump defeated, he just needs to keep up his attacks on the media and all is well right?

Then why are you complaining?
 
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