Trump tweets: The media is the 'enemy of the American people'

atlkvb

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Fake News. And everyone has said that Gallup can't be trusted because they showed Trump's approval poll was very low. What does Rasmussen say, they're the only one that can be trusted/correct.

You should be cheering Trump on as he seals his fate of doom taking on the trusted and respected Media.

Help him.
 

WVPATX

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I don't have a subscription for the first link and the second has numbers for "media" but there's nothing there that refutes the numbers I posted above. It depends on the question being asked.


The slide shows media trust at 35% almost identical to Gallup from Sept. 2016.
 

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The slide shows media trust at 35% almost identical to Gallup from Sept. 2016.
A recent study by Morning Consult found that the majority of the people find the major media outlets are credible. At the top, ABC News was found credible by 67%, CBS by 65%, Tthe New York Times by 63% and CNN by 60% of the public.
 

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A recent study by Morning Consult found that the majority of the people find the major media outlets are credible. At the top, ABC News was found credible by 67%, CBS by 65%, Tthe New York Times by 63% and CNN by 60% of the public.

Major contradiction will all other polls. Do some reading. Never heard of Morning Consult. I trust Gallup and the Financial Times way more.
 

D. Denzil Finney

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That is BS if you are suggesting he would be afforded good press going in a different direction. Trump knows it is BS and will bypass press and go directly to people. I think Trump's real objective is to close the NYT. Then WP. Add a couple TV networks and the next Republican will get a fair deal. If Trump fails, the Repubs will be no worse off.

Every time he responds to a controversial item, he fuels the fire to ensure that it continues. Every time he responds via social media he provides them more ammunition. Sometimes silence really is golden.
 

WVPATX

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Every time he responds to a controversial item, he fuels the fire to ensure that it continues. Every time he responds via social media he provides them more ammunition. Sometimes silence really is golden.

I actually agree with you. They both benefit. Those on the left love it when the media, whether factual, fair, balanced or not, goes after Trump (I just read a Politico article on this very topic). And the Trump supporters and independents love it when Trump goes after the media with a vengeance.

They both win. I think the NY Times and Wash Post subscriptions are up considerably. This means that this will likely continue until something dramatic causes it to change. I have no idea what that might be.

At the end of the day, Trump will win or lose reelection not based on this, but based on how well the country is doing.
 

D. Denzil Finney

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I actually agree with you. They both benefit. Those on the left love it when the media, whether factual, fair, balanced or not, goes after Trump (I just read a Politico article on this very topic). And the Trump supporters and independents love it when Trump goes after the media with a vengeance.

They both win. I think the NY Times and Wash Post subscriptions are up considerably. This means that this will likely continue until something dramatic causes it to change. I have no idea what that might be.

At the end of the day, Trump will win or lose reelection not based on this, but based on how well the country is doing.

Jeez, Two posts between the two of us without a hint of discord -- Donkeys and Pigs must be flying.
 

WVPATX

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Jeez, Two posts between the two of us without a hint of discord -- Donkeys and Pigs must be flying.

Lol

I heard last night something that I actually agree with. Laughter is the best medicine to bringing two ideologues together. That and being two West Virginia fans in the middle of Pitt fans.
 
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Trump is mad because the media exposed Stephen Miller for the really bizzare nut that he is. Trump is mad at the media because they have exposed his lack of intelligence, his fragile ego talking about the election three months after it is over, his inability to stay on topic, his talking in circles and the irrationality of having a rally only four weeks into your presidency.

Trump is a con man and gets angry at anyone who exposes him. It was the CIA a few weeks ago and now it's the entire intelligence community.
 

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Trump is mad because the media exposed Stephen Miller for the really bizzare nut that he is. Trump is mad at the media because they have exposed his lack of intelligence, his fragile ego talking about the election three months after it is over, his inability to stay on topic, his talking in circles and the irrationality of having a rally only four weeks into your presidency.

Trump is a con man and gets angry at anyone who exposes him. It was the CIA a few weeks ago and now it's the entire intelligence community.
Biff doesn't like being under a microscope. This isn't the Biff Tower anymore.
 

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When Trump says the people don't trust the media, he doesn't know that the media outlets the people don't trust are the ones he likes -- and like him in return; probably the ones he described as "fantastic."
A recent study by Morning Consult found that the majority of the people find the major media outlets are credible. At the top, ABC News was found credible by 67%, CBS by 65%, Tthe New York Times by 63% and CNN by 60% of the public.

The averages are brought down by the likes of Breitbart, the former professional home of Trump's top adviser, Steve Bannon. Only 19% believe what they report, just ahead of the satirical site The Onion, which doesn't even claim to tell the truth, but which nevertheless was found more credible than Infowars, the wild conspiracy peddling operation of Alex Jones.
And those stats are skewed by the liberals who slurp up the anti-Republican opinion ********. And by no means am I defending Brietbart as a bastion of truth.
 

dave

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The media has always shouted down all who dare question them. Trump told the media to *** off and they fear him.
 

dave

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Rasmussen Poll: Trump to blame for bad media

National Survey of 1,000 U.S. Likely Voters

Conducted January 11-12, 2017
By Rasmussen Reports


1* Trump has a troubled relationship with most traditional media outlets. Who’s more to blame for those problems – Trump or the media?


53% Trump
39% The media
8% Not sure


2* Should Trump try to improve his relationship with the traditional media, or should he continue to criticize them for what he considers to be their biased coverage?


63% Trump should try to improve his relationship with the traditional media
31% He should continue to criticize them for what he considers to be their biased coverage
6% Not sure


NOTE: Margin of Sampling Error, +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.






http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub.../questions_trump_and_media_january_11_12_2017
Interesting you dismiss rasmussen when you dont like their polling but quote them when they do.
 

atlkvb

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At the end of the day, Trump will win or lose reelection not based on this, but based on how well the country is doing.

This is all that matters. Fix the Economy, and the Media has nothing else to say or complain about Trump

Jobs, jobs, jobs.

If Folks have plenty of good paying jobs, they won't be listening to anything in the Media, they'll be out earning and spending more of their own money.

Who cares about the Damn Media carping and yelping like a bunch of ankle biter Mutts after that?
 
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Interesting you dismiss rasmussen when you dont like their polling but quote them when they do.
Only quoting you dave, you shot down another approval poll you didn't like and said Rasmussen was the only credible poll, so here it is.
 

atlkvb

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Only quoting you dave, you shot down another approval poll you didn't like and said Rasmussen was the only credible poll, so here it is.

This is a silly argument. Trump is hated by his detractors who get polled by firms trying to prove how much he's hated, and he's loved by his supporters who get polled by those firms trying to prove how strong his support is.

However, the only poll that is going to matter for Trump is the economic poll...

"Do you have or can you get the type of job you want, and is that job paying you what you want or need"?

If the answer to both of those questions is a firm "yes", no other poll for Trump will matter.

Period.

He gets re-elected in a landslide, and the Left's carping about him will be virtually ignored except among their Socialist income redistributionist types. But even they will be happy with the increased donations from folks who will have more money to spend or waste on their misguided causes.
 

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Please explain to me how Trump is attempting to subvert the constitution. Please provide the basis for your answer.

Are you suggesting that presidents nor anyone else can criticize the media for being biased and corrupt? You may not understand it, but presidents have free-speech rights as well.
"Fake news"....is different than calling out bias. "Enemy of the people"....is different than saying stories are misleading.
 

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"Fake news"....is different than calling out bias. "Enemy of the people"....is different than saying stories are misleading.

Calling mainstream news fake is no different than calling out bias. They fail to admit/correct their bias, therefore they are fake news... And it shows in their approval ratings.
 

atlkvb

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"Fake news"....is different than calling out bias. "Enemy of the people"....is different than saying stories are misleading.

Lying or making untrue stories or facts out to be such is worse than actual reporting what the facts or the Truth is.

What is a "sanctuary city"? Why isn't is reported as what it is or what it's there for? Why is "racism" only ascribed to White people?

What is the actual unemployment rate? Why is it not reported correctly, especially among Black teenagers?

What is true "poverty"?

Why are those who live in relative luxury while still collecting public assistance for housing, food, & their medical insurance among other publicly funded benefits designed to assist the truly financially indigent never reported as being fraudulent?

What is Government malfeasance and outright incompetence?

Why is it not rooted out and exposed on an almost daily and near universal occurrence across all agencies regularly wasting taxpayer funding?

Is it laziness, incompetence, bias, disrespect for the audience, arrogance, irrational allegiance to a Leftist pro-Government agenda, or all of these?
 

atlkvb

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Tell us which news isn't fake news. Which media should we be believing.

Not reporting on the overwhelming support among Black communities for school choice vouchers is "fake news". The Media always portrays supporters of school vouchers as "racists" who want to destroy Public schools for minority kids, and take money away from them in order to give it to rich White communities.

THAT is "fake news".

There are many, many more examples.
 

dave

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Fake News. And everyone has said that Gallup can't be trusted because they showed Trump's approval poll was very low. What does Rasmussen say, they're the only one that can be trusted/correct.
That is just a dishonest statement. Why can't liberals debate honestly?
 
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Rasmussen is really the only one you can trust, everyone else was so far off with the election and how they weight their variables. Rasmussen has been doing it for 20 years and it was almost the same as the other two major approval rate polls during the entire Obama presidency. Plus rasmussen has not changed their methodology, while Pew and Gallup both have.

Only quoting you dave, you shot down another approval poll you didn't like and said Rasmussen was the only credible poll, so here it is.

Mighty hypocritical of you.

Not at all, Fair and Balanced.

Hypocritical and dishonest then.

Your own words dave, I think hypocrisy and dishonesty apply to you in this instance.
 
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My words regarding presidential approval polls. Thanks for not even trying to be honest.
Rasmussen is really the only one you can trust, everyone else was so far off with the election and how they weight their variables. Rasmussen has been doing it for 20 years and it was almost the same as the other two major approval rate polls during the entire Obama presidency. Plus rasmussen has not changed their methodology, while Pew and Gallup both have.

Oh, so Rasmussen is only good for one topic, one that supports your viewpoint. When they don't support your viewpoint it is hypocritical and dishonest. Thanks for clearing that up and your "honesty".[laughing]
 

dave

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Rasmussen is really the only one you can trust, everyone else was so far off with the election and how they weight their variables. Rasmussen has been doing it for 20 years and it was almost the same as the other two major approval rate polls during the entire Obama presidency. Plus rasmussen has not changed their methodology, while Pew and Gallup both have.

Oh, so Rasmussen is only good for one topic, one that supports your viewpoint. When they don't support your viewpoint it is hypocritical and dishonest. Thanks for clearing that up and your "honesty".[laughing]

Keep putting words in my mouth. I understand why people do it but don't think I won't call you out for it.
 

dave

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They're you own words dave. You don't need any help from me or anyone else.
You are taking words from a completely different conversation and applying them to this topic. Its dishonest and typical. To add to that, I did not say Rasmussen was not good if I didn't agree with them, nor did I say that I disagreed with them on this topic. I pointed out correctly that you were dismissing Rasmussen about Presidential approval ratings and going with RCP average, until this topic when you want to throw up Rasmussen because you liked the results of the poll. I never said ti was bad or wrong, I call you out. Since then you have put a lot of words in my mouth that I never said. Period.
 
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You are taking words from a completely different conversation and applying them to this topic. Its dishonest and typical.
So you made a blanket statement that Rasmussen was the only polling company to be trusted, even using a different polling example in your comparison (election polling vs. approval rating), and stating that Pew and Gallup had changed methodology.

Rasmussen is really the only one you can trust, everyone else was so far off with the election and how they weight their variables. Rasmussen has been doing it for 20 years and it was almost the same as the other two major approval rate polls during the entire Obama presidency. Plus rasmussen has not changed their methodology, while Pew and Gallup both have.

Then when a Rasmussen poll did not support your viewpoint you claimed that I was hypocritical and dishonest for bringing it up and now claim that reminding you of your previous statement is again dishonest; even though your original statement mixed topics to prove your point. Have I got that right?