Trump vs Biden debate tonight

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wkycatfan7

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Trump was a bull at a rodeo and wouldn't condemn white supremacy. Biden wouldn't condemn Antifa and dodged the question on packing the SC.

We're screwed.
 
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1_COOL_CAT

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Breaking News👇
 

cat_in_the_hat

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How does immigration to this country work at all if that is the case? And, yes, we have a rather large database of suspected terrorists and their circles of contacts. The last three presidents spent a lot of time and money spying on Americans to figure that out.
Having a rather large database doesn't equate to knowing the identity of all terrorists. Vetting immigrants works well when they come from certain areas of the world much better than it works when they come from other areas. Why is it important to you that we admit immigrants from areas where terrorism is a risk? There are plenty of people who want to come to this country for a better life, why risk American lives by accepting them from high risk areas?
 
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And as if on cue, they simply can't resist to be racist promulgators of hate, just as I noted.

It's a total lie, way beyond typical political spin, exaggeration or embellishments. Why do this?

 

wkycatfan7

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And as if on cue, they simply can't resist to be racist promulgators of hate, just as I noted.

It's a total lie, way beyond typical political spin, exaggeration or embellishments. Why do this?



To be fair, Biden didn't condemn Antifa either, and dodged the question about packing the SC.
 

Vismund

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Having a rather large database doesn't equate to knowing the identity of all terrorists. Vetting immigrants works well when they come from certain areas of the world much better than it works when they come from other areas. Why is it important to you that we admit immigrants from areas where terrorism is a risk? There are plenty of people who want to come to this country for a better life, why risk American lives by accepting them from high risk areas?

Because that's a slippery slope argument that doesn't necessarily negate the need for humanitarian aid. Isis was trying to get a foothold in Syria but wasn't comparable to, say, their caliphate in Iraq.

You could make the argument that we shouldn't accept immigrants from Latin America, most of the Middle East, China, Russia and a good bit of southeast Asia because of ties to terrorism based on the assertion that you can't know everyone's intentions. I suppose you just shut the borders down at that point.
 

MudererofCrows

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Didn’t watch a minute of that shitshow and I’m better off for it.

But congrats if your “team” won I guess.
 

Vismund

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I'm seeing people online, including Jack himself, say Rittenhouse wasn't in a Para militia type group yet he identifies as such on his profile. Why is that being ignored? Considering he shot three white dudes, I'm not seeing where tying him to white supremacists is helping his cause.
 

-BBH-

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Didn’t watch a minute of that shitshow and I’m better off for it.

But congrats if your “team” won I guess.

Watched a few minutes and regret it. Will not watch the next. It was awful and did nothing to change anyone's mind. Politics has become a spectator sport. I don't believe it will ever change.
 
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The problem is the lie, same lie over and over, similar to antifa... Joe Biden said last night antifa is just an idea, no it's very clearly a global communist organization.

Everyone in America agrees with the idea of being against fascism, they do not support communism as the answer to that.

Everyone in America agrees with the idea that black lives matter, they quibble in the details of police brutality and they most certainly do not support diversity training CRT if they understood it.
If everyone is against fascism then why do people support Trump?
 

cat_in_the_hat

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Because that's a slippery slope argument that doesn't necessarily negate the need for humanitarian aid. Isis was trying to get a foothold in Syria but wasn't comparable to, say, their caliphate in Iraq.

You could make the argument that we shouldn't accept immigrants from Latin America, most of the Middle East, China, Russia and a good bit of southeast Asia because of ties to terrorism based on the assertion that you can't know everyone's intentions. I suppose you just shut the borders down at that point.
Humanitarian aid is different than letting people into your country that you can't fully determine their intent. I'm not for shutting down the boarder, but let's carry your argument to it's extreme. Our elected officials have a duty to protect and make decisions that are in the best interest of the American people. They have no obligation to any other people. If letting anyone in the country creates risk for the American people, then they should not be allowed in, even if that meant shutting down the boarder. The priority has to be the American people first. We elect them to put our interests first.
 
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Every major politician in Washington has colluded with a foreign entity to maintain power. If you think you're pinning some Democrat to the wall by making that statement you're in for a shock. I think BIden and Harris have done more harm to blacks in this country than any duo in history, think Pelosi is as self-centered an arrogant an individual exists and greatly dislike much of the brainless move by the left to assign everything as generality (racism, sexism, xenophobia).

That being said, Republicans are no saints and haven't received my vote (at the federal level) in 16 years. Not all of us go along with this Red vs. blue ******** where we all end up losing and they all end up winning in the end, amigo.

And you see no hypocrisy in this statement?
 

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And as if on cue, they simply can't resist to be racist promulgators of hate, just as I noted.

It's a total lie, way beyond typical political spin, exaggeration or embellishments. Why do this?


Lin Wood is already on top of it. For those who may think that he is full of it, he made Nick Sandman into a teenaged millionaire.
 

TheDude73

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Lol found the CNN talking point guy.

Surprised you removed your head from George Soros's ******* to make that post
I don't watch CNN or any of the major news outlets. I try to stick to non-partisan news outlets online like Reuters and NPR (although NPR is starting to lean left rather than my preferred neutral-center).

When the leader of any country says some of the absurdities Trump has, publicly, it's not hard to hear about it from even the most neutral news outlet. He says these things and they're on record, so not sure why you think this is a CNN talking point or "fake news".
 

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I don't watch CNN or any of the major news outlets. I try to stick to non-partisan news outlets online like Reuters and NPR (although NPR is starting to lean left rather than my preferred neutral-center).

When the leader of any country says some of the absurdities Trump has, publicly, it's not hard to hear about it from even the most neutral news outlet. He says these things and they're on record, so not sure why you think this is a CNN talking point or "fake news".

Riiiiighhht...

Best president since Lincoln
 
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sefus12

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Watching everything that has gone on since Trump because the Republican candidate in 2016, how the HELL can anyone think Trump is the politician that is tied to the "scary people with the scary ideas and willingness to wield power to achieve those ends"?

Honestly, you can dislike Trump for his demeanor or his Twitter usage or whatever else, but he's as far from an NWO-tied politician as we will see. Guy is damn-near single-handedly fighting against said politicians tied to said scary people

Damn, the media has done a freaking job on some of you.
 
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CatOfDaVille

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So the top 3 leaders of Proud Boys are 2 Hispanics and a black man of a white supremacist group
Actually, neo-nazis and white supremacists look down on Proud Boys because they admit minority members.

I did a little research today because I wasn't very familiar with them. They are nationalists but not self-defined white supremacists. The term they use is "western chauvinists", so it seems to be more about culture than race.

Now, if you feel that western = white then I suppose they could be loosely defined by some as white supremacists, but from what I can tell they just hate liberals regardless of race. I'm sure their ranks do include some white supremacists though.

However, the most important nugget I found is that their founder Gavin McInnes (an English-born Canadian) shoved a butt plug in his *** on camera to prove he wasn't gay. So there's that.
 
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Scary people ( billionaires that disagree aren't on the same side just cause they are rich?) come in all ideologies... an NYC ******* narcissist whose presidency presides over raising the average household income by 9k in 3 years and by Obama's own admission was the very embodiment of the amrican dream, is probably not one of them.

ANd his dumb comments are mostly media manufactured, portraying the least favorable possible interpretation deliberately. The vast majority of the time they are him talking chit, braggadocious mohammad ali like exaggerations that he's the greatest ever to ever ever, or some other totally inconsequential nonsense.

Biden's lies are not inconsequential; it's not ok to say antifa is just an idea or that other BS I was talking about earlier... antifa's a communist organization which is unAMerican... so is fascism too, that's why we fought a war against it.

A militia, however, is not unAmerican, but indeed guaranteed explicitly right there in the bill of rights.
 

Gassy_Knowls

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Actually, neo-nazis and white supremacists look down on Proud Boys because they admit minority members.

I did a little research today because I wasn't very familiar with them. They are nationalists but not self-defined white supremacists. The term they use is "western chauvinists", so it seems to be more about culture than race.

Now, if you feel that western = white then I suppose they could be loosely defined by some as white supremacists, but from what I can tell they just hate liberals regardless of race. I'm sure their ranks do include some white supremacists though.

However, the most important nugget I found is that their founder Gavin McInnes (an English-born Canadian) shoved a butt plug in his *** on camera to prove he wasn't gay. So there's that.

Glad you researched them.

You did more than the WildcatBostons of this board.
 

TheDude73

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Pretty simple. Those people, unlike you, know what fascism is and NOTHING Trump has done as president is anything close to said fascism.
Do you even know the definition of fascism? Clearly not, because the definition clearly fits what Trump has and is still doing, every day.


Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

fas·cism | \ ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi- \
Definition of fascism

1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial controlearly instances of army fascism and brutality— J. W. Aldridge
 

Gassy_Knowls

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Do you even know the definition of fascism? Clearly not, because the definition clearly fits what Trump has and is still doing, every day.


Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

fas·cism | \ ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi- \
Definition of fascism

1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial controlearly instances of army fascism and brutality— J. W. Aldridge

None of that fits Trump.

I swear you liberals are looney tunes
 

jlynn323

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Trump isn’t a leader in the slightest but unless you count bullying as leading, then he’s pretty good at that.
He's brash and very "New Yorkish", but a bully?? That's a very feminine way of looking at it, same as those who were constantly offended by Bevin and all the mean things he said. Results are more important than feelings and having a politician tell you how much he "feels your pain".