Trump vs Biden debate tonight

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Bill Derington

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If our leaders did so great, why do we have only 5% of the world population yet something like 20% of the deaths? Sounds like there are quite a few leaders that did better given that means several other countries will have a lower proportion of the deaths relative to their % of the population.

Look at how we count something as a covid death, and how well we track it. Other nations don't use the same metrics where simply testing positive, and dying is counted as a covid death. The Countries with low numbers don't count nursing home numbers in their numbers, or they count strictly those that die strictly from covid as a covid death.
 

cat_in_the_hat

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If our leaders did so great, why do we have only 5% of the world population yet something like 20% of the deaths? Sounds like there are quite a few leaders that did better given that means several other countries will have a lower proportion of the deaths relative to their % of the population.
I can think of several reasons why that might be true. First, our country isn't really like any other in the world. Countries like Germany, Italy, Spain, etc., might be the size of Montana, so it's easier to control such outbreaks. We are the most visited country in the world so we have much more opportunity for infected people to transmit the virus into our country. I would also suspect we have one of the most mobile populations on earth which further increases the opportunity for the virus to spread inside the country. On top of that, we are the most free society on earth, so government can't go as far in this country as they can in other countries to control people's behavior. Those are just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are lots of additional reasons we may see a larger percentage of deaths.

That being said, I'm not sure the data is good enough to really tell what the comparable death rates are between countries. The overwhelming majority of the deaths reported as corona virus in the USA, if I remember correctly over 90%, also reported at least two other major underlying conditions that contributed to death. That means all of the deaths reported as corona virus deaths aren't really attributable to the virus. Are other countries reporting deaths the same way? I doubt very seriously if the data reported for each country is comparable in any real sense. So the data you are using to conclude we are piling up virus deaths relative to other countries probably isn't good enough to really draw those kinds of conclusion from. The way the data is being complied is amazingly poor if any real analytics are to be performed. That being said, our death rate per million people is very comparable to Spain, UK, Italy, Sweden, Brazil, Belgium, etc. I don't know that that really means anything because like I said above, I'm not convinced the data reported for each country is comparable and collected in the same way.
 

WildcatofNati

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The U.S. doesn't have 20% of the deaths in the world. China is lying and Russia is probably lying. That China has under 5,000 total deaths from coronavirus in the land of its origin, and with a population over one billion, is laughable. Other nations are not advanced enough to accurately tabulate deaths, let alone cause of death.

With that said, the U.S. probably does have a higher per capita death rate than many other countries, and the reasons are many. Many have already been addressed. Here's another- the coronavirus is several dozens times likely to kill an elderly person as it is to kill a young person. The median age in Africa is just under 20 years old. The coronavirus doesn't kill a lot of 20 year olds, hence it doesn't kill a lot of Africans. The median age in India is 27 years old. The coronavirus doesn't kill a lot of 27 year olds, hence it doesn't kill a lot of Indians. This goes on and on. Of course, this analysis is not relevant to Western Europe, but, then again, most of Western Europe has a similar death rate from this as does America.

Another reason is that Andrew Cuomo isn't in charge of anyplace in the world, other than New York. Phil Murphy heads New Jersey and nowhere else. Those two, and others, ordered positive nursing home residents returned to nursing homes, creating untold numbers of deaths and that further skews the death rate in America.

In any event, this virus isn't through with anything just yet. Daily numbers show that the U.S. is now accounting for 10% to 15% of the deaths worldwide recently, not 20%, and that will keep dropping as it gradually decreases here and increases elsewhere. Back in March, Italy probably had nearly half of the deaths in the whole world (not counting the ones that China didn't report), and now it's around 3%.

I realize that this information will be lost on the moonbat in Boston- he's a true believer, a fanatic, and, like most virus worshipers, probably on the wrong side of the intellectual Bell Curve.
 
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I’m supposed to believe that these guys are whit supremacists because the SPLC says so?

gtfoh, you leftists have lost the plot





If our leaders did so great, why do we have only 5% of the world population yet something like 20% of the deaths? Sounds like there are quite a few leaders that did better given that means several other countries will have a lower proportion of the deaths relative to their % of the population.

Because that’s not an argument, it’s illogical and, though it uses numbers, not based in mathematical reasoning.

It’s a sociological wonder

prolly obese 55 year olds that merely look like they are 80
 
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