is a f'ucking liar.
Pre-existing conditions not covered in the bill.
Of course we already knew he was a liar and an idiot.
Pre-existing conditions not covered in the bill.
Of course we already knew he was a liar and an idiot.
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This doesn't affect me personally but think about your post for a minute. Your partisanship is more important than cancer patients being covered by insurance.
Quit calling it insurance, if you want all diseases covered by it. Call it what it is, a mandate. It's no longer insurance.
It is my responsibility to cover my sins (and stupidity) in the world, not everyone else's. And likewise, I don't want to cover your's, or anyone else's. Tough love, for sure. But straighten up your act, quit drinking/drugging/getting shot, and maybe you won't be bankrupt or dead.
Don't be a dick. It is insurance. And surely to god you are not dumb enough to believe that cancer and other diseases only happen to people through their own fault.
Sure, and an easy one to make. Biff promised pre-existing conditions relentlessly. No brainer.
The AMA came out against it today. I'll be surprised if it passes the Senate in its current form.
I haven't kept up with news on this, busy with work stuff. Is it that the 8B just falls short?
Way short, the estimate is 200B and they are against it because the lack of coverage of certain pre-existing conditions and the estimate of 25 M losing coverage and reduced Medicare/Medicaid.
It won't. It will be different. Then comes reconciliation where pubs rule dems drool.
I'm really not sure about that post. I respect most of your posts, but I think you might be a little clouded on this one. How can Trump loyalists talk about how many good people are out of work in one breath, then talk about how those without health coverage are in that condition through their own fault? Good people will lose coverage. Insurance companies have had the upper hand for too long. The cost of people without coverage will trickle up more than Trumps economic plan will trickle down, imo.
Donald Trump started tweeting eight years ago today, a strategy that ultimately turned him from a real estate magnate and reality-TV star to becoming the President of the United States.
Ever the self-promoter, Trump's first tweet was about him appearing on since retired David Letterman's late night show.
Ever the self-promoter, Trump's first tweet was about him appearing on since retired David Letterman's late night show.
What sin did a child born with a congenital heart defect commit? How are they supposed to acquire coverage as an adult?
I do agree with you that we should drop the idea of "insurance" and continue with developing a model for providing health care.
Further, Republicans complain that the only jobs created under Obama were minimum wage/part time and the unemployment rate is higher than what is reported (none of which are entirely true but do have elements of truth in them), but then in the same breath claim anyone uninsured is in that position due to their own failings. They now support a plan that will make it likely that someone who hits a long period of unemployment/no health insurance will not only have to pay a 30% surcharge when they can access coverage again, but also possibly have medical needs that will be considered preexisting conditions if they cropped up during their lack of coverage.
I am trying to wrap my head around how they consider bill this a solution, and my only conclusion is that anyone who does is a moron, an *******, or both.
you've had 8 years to watch a liar and an idiot mess up this country....now sit back and watch while a real president gets things done
Gee, I don't know. Perhaps the way they did before Obama hijacked insurance.
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I didn't say drop insurance. I said quit hijacking it for universal coverage.
Some people do none of those things and end up with genetic disorders that require them to .... oh ... could be anything .... but let's go with .... need kidney transplants
The level of stupidity is astounding. I knew some people were really stupid, but I had no idea it was to this level. Actually believing that all diseases are the result of someone's "sins, stupidity or poor lifestyle."
That was an oversimplification for you poor unintelligent libs. Of course there are outliers. You don't destroy insurance that works for 95%+ of the population with pre-existing conditional crap to solve the super-minority. Federal systems already work for some of those situations. Solve the rest with other federal systems (GASP).
Coop says just kill off the old people with cancer.
Isn't it up to each State to determine the fate of pre-existing conditions?
And they now have the opportunity to say "no, f'uck you". Do you think they (insurance companies) are going to say "yes, we'll cover pre-existing conditions?"
So there is a method to continue pre-existing conditions in this bill (as it is currently written)?
That's an issue with the insurance company ... nobody demanded that they raise premiums. Mine went down slightly and I live in this country too
that is NOT an issue with the insurance company. Premiums were raised because of obamacare and my wife lost her guaranteed stipend because of obamacare...the county admitted it.....and yes somebody (the democrats) demanded they raise premiums...that's the only way they thought their system would work....it obviously didn't
A solution? The bottom line is tha obamacare was not dying....it was dead. Complaining about this bill is like bitching about water damage because those ******* fireman put that damn fire out.