Trump's 'extraordinary' new war declaration skewered by legal experts

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Trump's 'extraordinary' new war declaration skewered by legal experts

President Donald Trump sent a letter to select members of Congress announcing that the United States is officially at war with drug cartels, The New York Times reported Thursday.

Trump decided that the country had entered a formal “armed conflict” with drug cartels, and those suspected of smuggling drugs are now deemed “unlawful combatants," the confidential letter says.

"Mr. Trump’s move to formally deem his campaign against drug cartels as an active armed conflict means he is cementing his claim to extraordinary wartime powers, legal specialists said. In an armed conflict, as defined by international law, a country can lawfully kill enemy fighters even when they pose no threat, detain them indefinitely without trials and prosecute them in military courts," the report said.

Retired Judge Geoffrey Corn told the outlet that the move crosses a line.

"This is not 'stretching the envelope,'" Geoffrey Corn told the Times. "This is shredding it."


"On administration's confidential note to Congress Completely right. Drug cartels not = 'armed conflict.' The people killed are civilians Corn is retired judge advocate general, former Army law-of-war senior adviser," said Just Security's Ryan Goodman.

A Just Security editor, Brian Finucane, commented that "the administration is trying to backfill a legal rationale for US strikes in the Caribbean. Seems by 'determining' there is an armed conflict—without any basis in fact or law—POTUS is giving himself a license to kill."

International lawyer Ben Farley wrote on Bluesky, "Just so we're clear, the President labeling something an armed conflict does not make it an armed conflict, legally or factually."

‪Ex-lawyer turned commentator Max Kennerly‬ said, "So at the time the admin bragged they were cartel drug runners, then they joked about killing fisherman, then it seems someone realized all of that proves it was simply murder, and now they're retroactively claiming it was an undeclared war. Still just murder, still can't blow up civilian boats."


International human rights lawyer Alka Pradhan said she saw this coming. "The entirely foreseeable and logical extension of all of the United States' law of war violations post 9/11.

"The 'peace president' is quick to determine we're at war if it helps him claim legally dubious power," said right-leaning lawyer Gregg Nunziata, executive director of the Society for the Rule of Law.
 

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Trump got Moe and the Democrats to support and defend Cartels. Who work for the CCP, Islamic Jihadist, and other Terrorist Organizations that kill about a hundred thousand Americans a year.

They are designated terrorist organization so Trump absolutely can use force against them. He just notified Congress to get busy giving him more authority when he needs it. We are about to find out what Politicians are getting funded by terrorist.
 
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Trump's 'extraordinary' new war declaration skewered by legal experts

President Donald Trump sent a letter to select members of Congress announcing that the United States is officially at war with drug cartels, The New York Times reported Thursday.

Trump decided that the country had entered a formal “armed conflict” with drug cartels, and those suspected of smuggling drugs are now deemed “unlawful combatants," the confidential letter says.

"Mr. Trump’s move to formally deem his campaign against drug cartels as an active armed conflict means he is cementing his claim to extraordinary wartime powers, legal specialists said. In an armed conflict, as defined by international law, a country can lawfully kill enemy fighters even when they pose no threat, detain them indefinitely without trials and prosecute them in military courts," the report said.

Retired Judge Geoffrey Corn told the outlet that the move crosses a line.

"This is not 'stretching the envelope,'" Geoffrey Corn told the Times. "This is shredding it."


"On administration's confidential note to Congress Completely right. Drug cartels not = 'armed conflict.' The people killed are civilians Corn is retired judge advocate general, former Army law-of-war senior adviser," said Just Security's Ryan Goodman.

A Just Security editor, Brian Finucane, commented that "the administration is trying to backfill a legal rationale for US strikes in the Caribbean. Seems by 'determining' there is an armed conflict—without any basis in fact or law—POTUS is giving himself a license to kill."


International lawyer Ben Farley wrote on Bluesky, "Just so we're clear, the President labeling something an armed conflict does not make it an armed conflict, legally or factually."

‪Ex-lawyer turned commentator Max Kennerly‬ said, "So at the time the admin bragged they were cartel drug runners, then they joked about killing fisherman, then it seems someone realized all of that proves it was simply murder, and now they're retroactively claiming it was an undeclared war. Still just murder, still can't blow up civilian boats."


International human rights lawyer Alka Pradhan said she saw this coming. "The entirely foreseeable and logical extension of all of the United States' law of war violations post 9/11.

"The 'peace president' is quick to determine we're at war if it helps him claim legally dubious power," said right-leaning lawyer Gregg Nunziata, executive director of the Society for the Rule of Law.
I'm all in for eliminating the drug cartels and those suspected of smuggling drugs. I couldn't care less if Trump wants to call it a war.
I don't see how any American could take the side of any drug cartels
 
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I'm all in for eliminating the drug cartels and those suspected of smuggling drugs. I couldn't care less if Trump wants to call it a war.
I don't see how any American could take the side of any drug cartels

I think he should push the issue by bombing the **** out of manufacturing sights so Congress has to vote so we can see who works for the Cartels and their allies.


Under the War Powers Resolution of 1973, the president must notify Congress within 48 hours of introducing U.S. armed forces into hostilities or situations of imminent hostilities. This notification is a reporting requirement, not a request for approval.
The law sets a limit on the duration of military action without congressional authorization, not a delay on the reporting requirement.
The 60-to-90-day limit
The War Powers Resolution limits the president's ability to use force without formal congressional approval through a time limit on the deployment.
  • 60 days: The president must end the military action within 60 calendar days unless Congress declares war, authorizes the action, or extends the time period.
  • Additional 30 days: The president can extend the period for up to 30 additional days if they certify to Congress in writing that the extension is necessary to protect U.S. forces during withdrawal.
 

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I'm all in for eliminating the drug cartels and those suspected of smuggling drugs. I couldn't care less if Trump wants to call it a war.
I don't see how any American could take the side of any drug cartels
If Trump does it, you support it no matter how illegal or unconstitutional so there's that. Who is taking the side of drug cartels? Did you even read the article?
 

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If Trump does it, you support it no matter how illegal or unconstitutional so there's that. Who is taking the side of drug cartels? Did you even read the article?

It's not illegal moron. It's been explained to you what he can do. You crying about it isn't going to stop it.
 

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by posting the article? stop embarrassing your family.
No...not by posting the article...by opposing ANYTHING Trump does.
You fought him about cleaning up the Border issue....you fought him about getting ILLEGAL immigrants out of the country...you fought him in his efforts to stop the killing and crime in many of our cities.
 

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No...not by posting the article...by opposing ANYTHING Trump does.
You fought him about cleaning up the Border issue....you fought him about getting ILLEGAL immigrants out of the country...you fought him in his efforts to stop the killing and crime in many of our cities.
lol My posts are easy to find so no reason to just make stuff up. I, along with millions of other Americans oppose all of Trump's illegal and unconstitutional EOs and other actions which is most everything he's done since taking office. He rarely does anything the legal way because the illegal way is much easier and effective. Also, SCOTUS has said he can break any law he wants therefore chaos, greed and corruption rule the day. I'm also pro-democracy while we watch Trump install his fascist dictatorship and military police state that nobody but MAGA wants. I could go on.
 

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lol My posts are easy to find so no reason to just make stuff up. I, along with millions of other illegal aliens and communist traitors oppose all of Trump's legal and constitutional EOs

We get it. You are supper pissed that you are now on a domestic terrorist list for supporting foreign terrorist that want to destroy the country.



 

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lol My posts are easy to find so no reason to just make stuff up. I, along with millions of other Americans oppose all of Trump's illegal and unconstitutional EOs and other actions which is most everything he's done since taking office. He rarely does anything the legal way because the illegal way is much easier and effective. Also, SCOTUS has said he can break any law he wants therefore chaos, greed and corruption rule the day. I'm also pro-democracy while we watch Trump install his fascist dictatorship and military police state that nobody but MAGA wants. I could go on.

In this post Moe is blowing his Antifa and Democrat dog whistle to incite violence against our National Guard Soldiers that our protecting Americans across our Country.
 
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@moe is what we call a straight ticket voter. He doesn't care about debates, criminals or cheaters. Straight-ticket voting experienced a steady decline through the 2000s as a result of many political factors. The drift of the Democratic Party towards the far left and away from its roots in the Reconstruction Era's Redeemers. Straight ticket voting takes less thought on a politicians background and what he stands for. Straight ticket voting can be dangerous for any party.

@moe sees D he votes. The D obviously stands for dummy.
 

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@moe is what we call a straight ticket voter. He doesn't care about debates, criminals or cheaters. Straight-ticket voting experienced a steady decline through the 2000s as a result of many political factors. The drift of the Democratic Party towards the far left and away from its roots in the Reconstruction Era's Redeemers. Straight ticket voting takes less thought on a politicians background and what he stands for. Straight ticket voting can be dangerous for any party.

@moe sees D he votes. The D obviously stands for dummy.

The Train is on the track and won't be slowing down. He might want to get off of it.
 
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Just hit the Manufacturing Plants and call it the day.

Those getting paid off are going to complain either way.






Earlier this morning, on President Trump's orders, I directed a lethal, kinetic strike on a narco-trafficking vessel affiliated with Designated Terrorist Organizations in the USSOUTHCOM area of responsibility. Four male narco-terrorists aboard the vessel were killed in the strike, and no U.S. forces were harmed in the operation. The strike was conducted in international waters just off the coast of Venezuela while the vessel was transporting substantial amounts of narcotics - headed to America to poison our people. Our intelligence, without a doubt, confirmed that this vessel was trafficking narcotics, the people onboard were narco-terrorists, and they were operating on a known narco-trafficking transit route. These strikes will continue until the attacks on the American people are over!!!!
 
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Just hit the Manufacturing Plants and call it the day.

Those getting paid off are going to complain either way.






Earlier this morning, on President Trump's orders, I directed a lethal, kinetic strike on a narco-trafficking vessel affiliated with Designated Terrorist Organizations in the USSOUTHCOM area of responsibility. Four male narco-terrorists aboard the vessel were killed in the strike, and no U.S. forces were harmed in the operation. The strike was conducted in international waters just off the coast of Venezuela while the vessel was transporting substantial amounts of narcotics - headed to America to poison our people. Our intelligence, without a doubt, confirmed that this vessel was trafficking narcotics, the people onboard were narco-terrorists, and they were operating on a known narco-trafficking transit route. These strikes will continue until the attacks on the American people are over!!!!


The same Democrats that voted to shut down the Government voted nay against Pete Hegseth for Secretary of War. They obviously are getting funding from drug and human trafficking.



 
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lol My posts are easy to find so no reason to just make stuff up. I, along with millions of other Americans oppose all of Trump's illegal and unconstitutional EOs and other actions which is most everything he's done since taking office. He rarely does anything the legal way because the illegal way is much easier and effective. Also, SCOTUS has said he can break any law he wants therefore chaos, greed and corruption rule the day. I'm also pro-democracy while we watch Trump install his fascist dictatorship and military police state that nobody but MAGA wants. I could go on.

Trump's 'extraordinary' new war declaration skewered by legal experts

President Donald Trump sent a letter to select members of Congress announcing that the United States is officially at war with drug cartels, The New York Times reported Thursday.

Trump decided that the country had entered a formal “armed conflict” with drug cartels, and those suspected of smuggling drugs are now deemed “unlawful combatants," the confidential letter says.

"Mr. Trump’s move to formally deem his campaign against drug cartels as an active armed conflict means he is cementing his claim to extraordinary wartime powers, legal specialists said. In an armed conflict, as defined by international law, a country can lawfully kill enemy fighters even when they pose no threat, detain them indefinitely without trials and prosecute them in military courts," the report said.

Retired Judge Geoffrey Corn told the outlet that the move crosses a line.

"This is not 'stretching the envelope,'" Geoffrey Corn told the Times. "This is shredding it."


"On administration's confidential note to Congress Completely right. Drug cartels not = 'armed conflict.' The people killed are civilians Corn is retired judge advocate general, former Army law-of-war senior adviser," said Just Security's Ryan Goodman.

A Just Security editor, Brian Finucane, commented that "the administration is trying to backfill a legal rationale for US strikes in the Caribbean. Seems by 'determining' there is an armed conflict—without any basis in fact or law—POTUS is giving himself a license to kill."


International lawyer Ben Farley wrote on Bluesky, "Just so we're clear, the President labeling something an armed conflict does not make it an armed conflict, legally or factually."

‪Ex-lawyer turned commentator Max Kennerly‬ said, "So at the time the admin bragged they were cartel drug runners, then they joked about killing fisherman, then it seems someone realized all of that proves it was simply murder, and now they're retroactively claiming it was an undeclared war. Still just murder, still can't blow up civilian boats."


International human rights lawyer Alka Pradhan said she saw this coming. "The entirely foreseeable and logical extension of all of the United States' law of war violations post 9/11.

"The 'peace president' is quick to determine we're at war if it helps him claim legally dubious power," said right-leaning lawyer Gregg Nunziata, executive director of the Society for the Rule of Law.
Secretary of War Pete Hegseth announced on Friday the U.S. military conducted a lethal kinetic strike on a narcotrafficking vessel affiliated with Designated Terrorist Organizations traveling off the coast of Venezuela, killing four men aboard.

"The strike was conducted in international waters just off the coast of Venezuela while the vessel was transporting substantial amounts of narcotics—headed to America to poison our people," Hegseth wrote in an X post.

The secretary said military intelligence, "without a doubt," confirmed the vessel was trafficking narcotics, the people onboard were narcoterrorists, and they were operating on a known narcotrafficking transit route.
 
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Secretary of War Pete Hegseth announced on Friday the U.S. military conducted a lethal kinetic strike on a narcotrafficking vessel affiliated with Designated Terrorist Organizations traveling off the coast of Venezuela, killing four men aboard.

"The strike was conducted in international waters just off the coast of Venezuela while the vessel was transporting substantial amounts of narcotics—headed to America to poison our people," Hegseth wrote in an X post.

The secretary said military intelligence, "without a doubt," confirmed the vessel was trafficking narcotics, the people onboard were narcoterrorists, and they were operating on a known narcotrafficking transit route.





Illegagitmate Dictator



 

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If Trump does it, you support it no matter how illegal or unconstitutional so there's that. Who is taking the side of drug cartels? Did you even read the article?

Your tribe is having the worst year every. Too bad it's only going to get worse.