I have noticed Chris Garrett's name absent from TSUN QB sweepstakes. I can't remember when he transferred there, is he eligible this year? <span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"></span></span>Still on the roster? I remember thinking several years ago how he was going to be the future of MSU. Fortunately, we wound up with Tyler Russell instead of him.
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I have noticed Chris Garrett's name absent from TSUN QB sweepstakes. I can't remember when he transferred there, is he eligible this year? <span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"></span></span>Still on the roster? I remember thinking several years ago how he was going to be the future of MSU. Fortunately, we wound up with Tyler Russell instead of him.
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1dawgfan09
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I am so sick of reading where people dog Russell. If you don't think he's far and away ahead of Favre and Prescott, you don't know jack about football. Russell will be the future once Relf leaves and before Dak takes over. Now, on to TSUN's qbs, I read somewhere that NUtt thinks Brunetti will likely get the nod this Sept. Don't know if that true or not.
I'm pretty sure Garrett would be in the exact same position that Russell is now: career backup QB that could be beaten out by 2 younger QBs for his senior season.
Apparently God wants him to attend every SEC school in the SEC West.
Speaking of- does anyone know where he is now? Has God sent him into the Wilderness to wonder for 40 years or what?
I have a feeling that he will surface at Belhaven for some reason.
Speaking of- does anyone know where he is now? Has God sent him into the Wilderness to wonder for 40 years or what?
I have a feeling that he will surface at Belhaven for some reason.
Cam Newton, Eli Manning,Tom Brady, Matt Ryan,Vinny Testaverde,all waited a while before they got their chance, worked out okay.biguglykidjoe said:
Relf played good last year andearned his spot, that doesnt makeTyler a bust.Tyler will be fine, and if anyone thinks Hening, I mean Tyson Lee, I mean Fave will be the first 5'9 qb to succeed in the SEC, well..............
But whatever, there is no point in arguing further. Guess we'll just have to wait a couple years.
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That is one of worst posts in history. Russel has three entire years of eligibility left and you are labeling him a "career backup"? Hell Garrett has been the back up to the back up's backup. At least Tyler has played a meaningful minute of college football.
I remember everyone making fun of me for saying this during Garrett's recruitment. For saying he sucked & I'd rather have Russell.patdog said:
What if Garrett had come to State and been here when Dan the Man arrived? Dan would have turned him around and made him into a great QB ala Relf, Russell and soon to be mini Favre and Prescott. Then we would be looking at having 5 good QBs on campus.
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Back when Garrett was committed to us and Russell was still open, I was pretty worried that having Garrett already committed might push Russell away. I never wanted Garrett either. I defnintely remember you saying that Bumphis was a much better QB. I think some others who had seen Tupelo play agreed with me.
Garrett was big. That's it. His lone "college QB" attribute was that he was 6'4". But when you really watched him play, you realized he just didn't have the tools. He was immobile, had awful pocket awareness, and his arm wasn't particularly strong. In short, he was a "good" HS QB, but I never saw anything that led me to believe he would be a good SEC QB. Plus, all he had to do was throw it to Bumphis and let him do his thing. He benefited from having a great WR that made his stats look much better than they should have.
I would have grayshirted him and then he could MAYBE compete for the job as a sixth year senior. I don't think he would have beat out Favre or Dak, though.
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yes, Chad could have/would have been an excellent QB, but didn't have near the arm Chris had.If you gave Chris 3 seconds in the pocket, he could place a football anywhere you needed it within 50 yards. While Chris wasn't a Michael Vick, he wasn't a statue either- it is an exaggeration to call him slow. He is just a straight drop back, pro style QB. There is no question in my mind he is as good a Russell - and i believe Chris to have the stronger, more accurate arm and again, contrary to most opinions here, i believe CG is faster than TR. Truth be known, he should have fulfulled his original commitment and gone to State. PS: the crack above about 'not good enough to play at a DII school' - he never wanted to be there, period, it was a fill in.
with little or no protection. The excitement about Favre was about the fact that the kid can actually play and may buck the trend of our past sub-6 footers.
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At no point in Chris Garrett's career has he ever been able to hold Tyler Russell's jock. Let's look at this logically:
Russell- Parade AA, State Title, Beat South Panola, has actually played meaningful minutes in college, passed for 256 yds and 4 TDs in first game against Memphis
Garrett- led underachieving Tupelo team to a horrid senior season, was third or fourth string at LSU, transfers to DII school, transfers to Ole Miss where he is not even listed on the depth chart on a team that does not have a QB that has ever taken a snap in a game at Ole Miss.
Yeah they are just alike.
and I happened to see him, Russell and Clayton Moore in the same season. At the time I was very impressed with Garrett. He could make any throw you wanted. I couldn't tell about his mobility because he wasn't asked to move much. I liked Russell too, but I would've picked Garrett at the time. I thought Russell took way too long to cock and throw. Actually, I thought Moore was the most polished of the three, but maybe I just saw one of his better games.
Garrett should have signed with us. He might be a career back-up but I bet he'd be in shape and be able to contribute in some way. Of course, if that meant Russell goes elsewhere, then I'm glad it worked out like it did.
Garrett should have signed with us. He might be a career back-up but I bet he'd be in shape and be able to contribute in some way. Of course, if that meant Russell goes elsewhere, then I'm glad it worked out like it did.
I also saw Garrett play in high school.....against South Panola. He looked scared shitless and like he was stuck in cement. Russell on the other hand picked USP apart in the title game.
All I know is that right now Russell is the 2nd stringer on a top 20 team while Garrett is buried behind 3 guys that have never played a down at the last place team in the SEC West.
All I know is that right now Russell is the 2nd stringer on a top 20 team while Garrett is buried behind 3 guys that have never played a down at the last place team in the SEC West.
I'm happy with Russell. His mechanics have gotten so much better and I think he'll have a nice two year run for us.
I saw Garrett against average teams and he looked really good. I liked him at the time. LSU apparently saw what I saw. For whatever reason though, LSU wasn't right for him and he hasn't recovered.
It's kind of like of picking between two job offers. One may look really good so you take it and then you're miserable and you end up sucking at your job. Maybe you would have been happy and thrived elsewhere. I think that's more what happened to Garrett rather than him just being flat out terrible.
I saw Garrett against average teams and he looked really good. I liked him at the time. LSU apparently saw what I saw. For whatever reason though, LSU wasn't right for him and he hasn't recovered.
It's kind of like of picking between two job offers. One may look really good so you take it and then you're miserable and you end up sucking at your job. Maybe you would have been happy and thrived elsewhere. I think that's more what happened to Garrett rather than him just being flat out terrible.
Going DII was dumb on his part. He should've gone juco for one season then he could've signed and played immediately. Now he's lost his redshirt season at LSU, went to DII for one year, transferred to a FBS team and lost another year sitting out. Basically he's wasted 3 years of eligibility because of dumb decisions on his part and has 2 years left to prove himself. Is he even still at Ole Miss?
and I saw Garrett and Tyler both play in high school as well- didn't see Clayton Moore- was based off of the fact that in my opinion, Tyler was the better of the two. That's not saying that Garrett was necessarily horrible. But if you have two QB's that are in the same class, at least one is not going to pan out. So, you might as well grayshirt the one that is not as good as the other. Of course, now I don't think grayshirts are allowed at all anymore, so really we need to sign one QB and go with them from here on out.
And as far as South Panola making Garrett look bad- let's be honest here, they've made a lot of people look bad. They are an awesome team that has at least one Dandy Dozen player per year plus guys like Kendrick Market. They made Tobias Singleton look bad last year as well. He's not a bad player. And I could probably provide plenty of other examples except I haven't watched every single South Panola game to provide them.
What really soured me on Garrett was when he de-committed, I kind of got the impression that he really didn't want to compete for the job, and basically wanted it to be given to him. Reading between the lines on his "God told me to go to LSU" comments and the "Croom screwed me over" comments. To me, if a guy, especially a QB, wants something given to him and doesn't want to compete for the job, well I would rather them be somewhere else personally.
Both Tyler and Garrett had "dreams" of being MSU's QB. Tyler didn't care that we had one Dandy Dozen QB already committed and didn't care if he had to compete for the job. Chris did.
And I do know for a fact that Croom lied to Garrett. So, it does make me wonder if Croom could have handled that situation a lot better than he did. Maybe being honest would have been better in this case - and when I say being honest, make it clear that we would be recruiting both Garrett and Russell, not honest as in you're the only guy we're going to recruit.
And as far as South Panola making Garrett look bad- let's be honest here, they've made a lot of people look bad. They are an awesome team that has at least one Dandy Dozen player per year plus guys like Kendrick Market. They made Tobias Singleton look bad last year as well. He's not a bad player. And I could probably provide plenty of other examples except I haven't watched every single South Panola game to provide them.
What really soured me on Garrett was when he de-committed, I kind of got the impression that he really didn't want to compete for the job, and basically wanted it to be given to him. Reading between the lines on his "God told me to go to LSU" comments and the "Croom screwed me over" comments. To me, if a guy, especially a QB, wants something given to him and doesn't want to compete for the job, well I would rather them be somewhere else personally.
Both Tyler and Garrett had "dreams" of being MSU's QB. Tyler didn't care that we had one Dandy Dozen QB already committed and didn't care if he had to compete for the job. Chris did.
And I do know for a fact that Croom lied to Garrett. So, it does make me wonder if Croom could have handled that situation a lot better than he did. Maybe being honest would have been better in this case - and when I say being honest, make it clear that we would be recruiting both Garrett and Russell, not honest as in you're the only guy we're going to recruit.
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If Chris was scared shitless, it sure didn't show IMO. He brought Tupelo within a 2 point conversion with 7 seconds left of ending South Panola's 80+ game streak. He ran for 1st downs three different times in the final drive. The dumbass Tupelo HC cost the wave the game. When Tupelo broke huddle for the 2 point conversion, SP called TO - unlike the dumbass Tupelo HC, SP hadn't already burned its TOs. So Tupelo breaks huddle after the timeout IN THE EXACT SAME FORMATION AS BEFORE. It was if Tupelo gave SP 5 minutes to prepare. Garrett was in the shotgun with 4 receivers to one side. Bumphis should have been in the shotgun, not Chris. Wasn't Garrett's fault.
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Once Bumphis, Garrett, and Ken Davis, who was a DD running back all left, they had I think a two win season and the coach was fired.
They may have been able to beat South Panola with a better coach, but we'll never know.
They may have been able to beat South Panola with a better coach, but we'll never know.