Two Game Deciding Plays that I haven't seen discussed....

[DowntownDawg]

...1) 3rd and 5 at the Gator 9. 1st drive of the second half. We have steamrolled down the field. Saulsberry jumps early. On 3rd and 10, Mullen packs it in for the field goal. We might or might not get it on 3rd and 5, but if we go up 17-13 there, the game is totally different. Florida really starts to feel the pressure, and DWS goes nuts. Huge penalty, and I am not sure if we shouldn't have taken a chance on 3rd and long. Mullen went extremely conservative there.

2) 3rd and 3 at the Gator 32. Relf takes a 9 yard sack. If he throws the ball away, and the kicker makes the field goal, we are tied at 16. I don't think Mullen fake punts in a tie game in his own territory. HUGE mistake by Relf not to throw it away.

If those plays go our way, we might all be happy right now.

 

[DowntownDawg]

...1) 3rd and 5 at the Gator 9. 1st drive of the second half. We have steamrolled down the field. Saulsberry jumps early. On 3rd and 10, Mullen packs it in for the field goal. We might or might not get it on 3rd and 5, but if we go up 17-13 there, the game is totally different. Florida really starts to feel the pressure, and DWS goes nuts. Huge penalty, and I am not sure if we shouldn't have taken a chance on 3rd and long. Mullen went extremely conservative there.

2) 3rd and 3 at the Gator 32. Relf takes a 9 yard sack. If he throws the ball away, and the kicker makes the field goal, we are tied at 16. I don't think Mullen fake punts in a tie game in his own territory. HUGE mistake by Relf not to throw it away.

If those plays go our way, we might all be happy right now.

 

[FlabLoser]

I was telling my stadium-mates, Relf and any QB for that matter has to be telling themselves, when in field goal range DON'T TAKE A SACK

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

But of course he thought that he could be a hero and scramble and find an open receiver.

 

[Coach34]

he is a good athlete that can throw a football. He was a wishbone QB in HS for crying out loud- why he was recruited by Crooms is still a huge mystery to me. He knew nothing of 3 step drops, reading coverages, hot routes, or anything a West Coast QB needs to know.

And it hasnt been discussed because there is a faction of the board that wants Relf to play more and throw the football some.

 

[AzzurriDawg4]

To me, not throwing it away is not as bad as us calling the passing play in the first place. Was it really on the 32? I didn't remember it being that close, but I thought we were past the 40. I also thought it was 3rd and 4. All I remember thinking is that we were in 4 down territory. It was 2:20 left in the 3rd. Relf hadn't been stopped for less than 3 the whole drive. That play call sent me through the roof at the game.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Without having watched the replay at all, I think what happened on that play was Relf was looking right after the snap, but Green had gone out in the pattern to the left. I think Relf expected him to be wide open but he was covered, and Relf panicked and didn't know what to do. He ended up eating it and that was that.

 

[patdog]

He should be used for only a play or two at a time.

 

[Columbus Dawg]

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[chewgumm]

I think he could make a splash there.

 

[DowntownDawg]

....Relf should never be out there when the down indicator reads "3," unless there is a chance to run for it. He is an automatic punt on 3rd down.

 

[BlindDawg]

He MIGHT have looked at his first read on that play, but I know as soon as he started trying to buy a little time with his feet he zeroed in on the two defenders coming at him and NEVER looked downfield after that. I don't know much about playing QB, but I know you gotta scan the field to find an open man, especially when scrambling.

 

[Todd4State]

I still say use him as a wildcat QB/slot receiver/running back. And when I say use him in those positions, he should get maybe 10-15 snaps a game max at all three combined.

He should be used sort of like Randall Cobb, but I know Relf is not nearly as good, and he shouldn't be used nearly as much as Cobb, but Relf is a good athlete and I think he has some value as a role player.

 

[TBonewannabe]

when we are in close games in the redzone. Just making sure we get points in a close ballgame. I didn't mind him being careful with the football.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

..If you were recruited as a QB in college, surely you would've at least learned the rudimentary skills of throwing a football to a spot. It's apparent that Relf has no concept of that. Also, it seems he loves the herb more than the idea of learning how to run the spread option. If he cared about improving his skills as a running QB, he'd be more of a threat (being able to pitch to Dixon or Ducre, or handing off on a counter).

I was hoping he'd become sort of like a Sleepy Robinson, a mediocre QB under Felker who flourished in the option offense. Unfortunately, the only thing that appears sleepy about Relf is his eyelids after a night of bong-banging.

 

[thunderclap]

start of the 4th quarter, still 16-13, they are punting from mid-field, we get a good rush and somebody lays out and I still don't know how the hell he missed blocking the punt. Instead, we're pinned inside the 10 and the game flops in their direction the rest of the way.

 

[Shmuley]

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[Xenomorph]

Go back and look at that play. Bumphis is 3 yards away and gives a look out block on the guy that gets the sack. Once the defender was by Bumphis all Relf could do was eat it.

 

[Xenomorph]

I don't know how he didn't block it, and I haven't brought myself to watch it on DVR yet.. but he laid out in mid air with no regard for sticking the landing.

He makes that play, and it's a different game.

 

[dbb49]

It was a defensive end who should have been picked up by AD that got to Relf.

 

[DowntownDawg]

...imagine if we get that first down. We are 1st and goal from the 4 or better. And what was really the icing on the cake is that Saulsberry started celebrating after we made the field goal.

 

[Xenomorph]

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[DowntownDawg]

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[jcdawgman18]

Right before the botched fake punt, we had third and 3 or 4 (don't remember the exact distance). We ran a sprint-out to the left with Tyson. Bumphis was open on the out route for the first down.....and Tyson threw it into the ground.
If we hit that one, we get the first down and we don't ever put ourselves in the position to screw up on fourth down.

 

[lawdawg02]

(1) that penalty was surely huge. if you look, we had an unbalanced line. saulsberry was by himself to the left of the center. i don't know if the florida D adjusted, but that penalty REALLY hurt. we expected a blitz on 3rd down, which they did. i assume that's why we called the draw play. it was stuffed, though. i can understand making sure to get the 3 points, but maybe a lee rollout or something would have had a better chance at getting the first down (and keep the risk of a turnover to a minimum).</p>

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(2) relf should've thrown the ball away - no doubt. i didn't like there being only one guy for him to throw to, and using both dixon and bumphis to block on the play. however, i don't think the sack took us out of field goal range. i don't think depasquale has the leg for a 50 yd field goal. i hope brauchle is back for the bama game. depasquale has done well in his absence, but his kickoffs certainly leave much to be desired. </p>

 

[DowntownDawg]

...if you pick up that first down, you are 1st and goal inside the 4. What if we go up on them on the first drive of the half? They really start pressing. The defense has a lead to protect. There is no telling what happens.

And on the Relf play, he lost 9 yards from the 32, so the LOS would've been the 41 on a field goal. That's too long for most kickers. Not worth the risk.

 

[dbb49]

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[lawdawg02]

And on the Relf play, he lost 9 yards from the 32, so the LOS would've been the 41 on a field goal. That's too long for most kickers. Not worth the risk.

you're still looking at a 49 yard FG, and i'm not sure if that is in depasquale's range. i think we were looking at 4 down territory before relf takes the sack. either way, he should've thrown the damn thing into the 10th row.

 

[jcdawgman18]

i don't think depasquale has the leg for a 50 yd field goal.</p>

The attempt against Houston right before the half (when the cannon went off) was a 50 yarder. It was plenty long just a little wide right. Was a good 15 feet up the uprights as it went by.

 

[Xenomorph]

Kinda?... maybe?...

nice work though... You looking for a job as replay official?

 

[DowntownDawg]

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[dbb49]

And I could never live up to the high standards of video review in the SEC. I mean it's so hard to look at a video a couple times in slow motion and say "Oh, this is what happened."

 

[lawdawg02]

it says that it's a 52 yard attempt, but i think it was actually 51. either way, he hit the ball well, but even if it was straight, it would have been close. notice in the bottom picture that the houston player went over to catch the ball, but it was just over his head. the cheerleader standing behind him crouches and tries to catch the ball.

so you're right - we might have tried the 50 yarder. but relf made sure that we didn't have to make that decision...

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[jcdawgman18]

I'm pretty sure the guy bending down to get it was after it bounced back off the stands.

Now, I think DePasquale has to put everything he's got into one to get it there from 50+, and thus isn't as accurate as he is otherwise, but he's definitely got the leg to get it there.

 

[JimC1097]

Should have brought Lee back in. When you are grasping for air, it is hard to think clearly, plus after being out the last two games, he was really trying to make something happen.

 

[hotdogface9]

and you will see that Bumphis is a liability when comes to any play he needs to throw a block.

 

[rugbdawg]

They had no one covering the tight end there. And...that play was absolutely Dixon's fault. Plain and simple, we had no one that even attempted to block 8 on that play. The tight end did exactly what he was supposed to do. Why didn't Dixon attempt to block him? Who knows?

 

[lawdawg02]

this one definitely did not bounce off the stands. the cheerleader bend down to catch the ball in the air. from where he was standing, the ball probably wouldn't have been good even if it was kicked straight. maybe you'll believe me when you see this picture of the cheerleader trying to get under the ball. if not, you can watch the video for yourself at secdigitalnetwork.

yes, depasquale can get it there. barely. but it certainly didn't sail past the uprights. his kick into the wind at MTSU was more impressive to me. that FG was only 30-something yards, but it had some serious distance. either way, relf took that decision away from the coaches by not throwing the ball away.