Tyler Adams interview
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I believe that he is truly torn between wanting to go to MSU and wondering if he needs to go to a "big name" program out of state. I hope we get him. He is already big and could rest Bailey without a big dropoff in size and power.
sounds like we are still in the game. It would be nice to keep all these Mississippi guys in state and put together an awesome class.
He says he wants to go to a school to get him to the next level and to work hard. Coach K will work his *** off. He has proven track record of getting kids to the next level. Stans, not sure. How hard do you have to work to stand around outside the 3 point line and lob up 3's. Not "running" an offense like that doesn't work your *** off and we do not have much of a record putting guys in the pro's compared to the other two schools. Don't know about Gtown recently, but historically have put a lot of guys in pro's. If he comes to State, it will be to play with his two buddies, not because he thinks Stans will work him hard.
**** ever. Duke and Georgetownput more guys in the pros because theysign more talented players year in and year out. If you have NBA talent, you are going to the NBA whether you sign with Duke or Alcorn State.
JimC1097 said:
Duke puts guys in the NBA because most of them were 5 star recruits to begin with. Don't get me wrong, I think Coach K is the best coach in the country hands down but comparing MSU to Duke when it comes to getting players in the pros is crazy. You are talking about two entirely different levels of basketball players to start with. Guys like Boozer, Duhon, Deng,etc were going to end up in the NBA no matter where they went to school.
Adams is more talented than Bailey but Bailey does the dirty work to include defending and rebounding. Additionally he will be a 5th year senior. It is extremely difficult for a true freshman to come into a college program and start unless there is no other option or you are an unreal talent. I predict Adams plays alot his first year but I have seen him play and although I believe he has a near unlimited upside I could also see him getting in foul trouble quickly and having to take some time to adjust to playing with players as big or bigger than him.
Duke wants him to go to prep school to work on his game. Prep school, the minor leagues of college basketball.JimC1097 said:
the college coaching has VERY little to do with it. Jarvis improved tremendously in his time at MSU both offensively and defensively and became the all-time college career shot blocker but that didn't automatically make him ready to be a big time NBA player. Now he would have never been a great offensive player no matter where he would have gone. Lawrence Roberts was a tremendous college talent that prospered with us but he just didn't have the physical skill set to make it big in the NBA and no amount of additional college development would have changed that. Jeff Malone on the other hand WAS a tremendous pro but I certainly don't think that was due to anything contributed by Bob Boyd. I mean does anyone really think Calipari MADE all those guys last year NBA ready for this year? Heck, Calipari is no better at developing players that Stans, he's just better at getting them to sign the letter of intent.
Jamont Gordon would have stuck in the NBA for a little while if he had played in the right program. What talenet did KeithBogan (??? guy fromKentucky; maybe not Keith) have that Gordon doesn't?Not sure Gordon would have had the required attitude to play forRick Petinoor Coach Kryzeschksiadga;lksdjfiasdfjkl, but if he wasn't kicked off the team, I think they would havegotten him into the NBA.
Rhodes might would have made it in the right program, although he improved a ton while he was at State so I'm not sure it would have made a difference unless he just got hyped up to a first round draft pick by playing at a bigger name school.
Rhodes might would have made it in the right program, although he improved a ton while he was at State so I'm not sure it would have made a difference unless he just got hyped up to a first round draft pick by playing at a bigger name school.
Johnson85 said:
Players at schools like Dukewere McDonalds AA's coupled with the fact that Duke is on TV every single night. Of course that is going to translate into them having a better shot at the NBA. Jamont did not make the NBA for two reasons: no consistent outside shot and not quick enough to guard most NBA guards. That would not have changed no matter where he went to school. It has zilch to do with Stansbury's ability to get a player "NBA ready".
Now I'm really thinking it's even a little bit in our favor. Maybe 60/40 that he signs with MSU. Never underestimate the power of peer pressure. If he truly is good friends with Deville and Rodney, they could weigh heavily on his decision. Would be the greatest class Stans has signed if we get Hood, Adams, and Gardner to go along with Smith.
you could have my wife coach 11 McDonald's All Americans every year, and she would have a solid record of sending guys to the NBA - just like coach k<div>
</div><div>would like to know how many non-McDonald's All Americans coach K has sent to the league (or even coached for that matter) - and coach K does not send nearly all of his McDonald's All Americans to the NBA</div><div>
</div><div>how many all americans has stansbury had in his 11 years as coach? - 1 (mario austin) - there may be another, but I am not aware of one -</div><div>
</div><div>funny how a coach that won't make you work or do anything to improve your game even remotely puts anything on the court that is competitive (much less almost beating 5 uk players and 3 officials twice last year).</div><div>
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</div><div>would like to know how many non-McDonald's All Americans coach K has sent to the league (or even coached for that matter) - and coach K does not send nearly all of his McDonald's All Americans to the NBA</div><div>
</div><div>how many all americans has stansbury had in his 11 years as coach? - 1 (mario austin) - there may be another, but I am not aware of one -</div><div>
</div><div>funny how a coach that won't make you work or do anything to improve your game even remotely puts anything on the court that is competitive (much less almost beating 5 uk players and 3 officials twice last year).</div><div>
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If you're good enough to play in the NBA, you're going to play in the NBA. Whether you go to school at DeVry University or Syracuse.
A lot of making it as a 10-12 guy on most teams (see the K. Bogan example) is simply luck of the draw and personality with team they land on. I dare say there are tons of player in Europe or even the D-league that are just as good as the 11-12th guys on most teams. You just have to find the right spot for yourself.
Gordon - I agree with the other guy - he simply wasn't quick enough to play PG in the NBA. I watched most of his summer league games that year and he couldn't get around anybody off the dribble - I mean anybody. After a couple of games it was clear that he wouldn't make it ever and it had nothing to do with skill or technique - his talent simply wasn't good enough.
Rhodes that same year had a great D-league and I thought he might make it to a camp. I have to think his personality probably hurt him a little - never know as the hardest worker at State from what I remember.
Coaching can certainly help some, but raw talent/work ethic of the athlete makes 80% of it in my opinion.
Gordon - I agree with the other guy - he simply wasn't quick enough to play PG in the NBA. I watched most of his summer league games that year and he couldn't get around anybody off the dribble - I mean anybody. After a couple of games it was clear that he wouldn't make it ever and it had nothing to do with skill or technique - his talent simply wasn't good enough.
Rhodes that same year had a great D-league and I thought he might make it to a camp. I have to think his personality probably hurt him a little - never know as the hardest worker at State from what I remember.
Coaching can certainly help some, but raw talent/work ethic of the athlete makes 80% of it in my opinion.
Despite what some people on this board apparently believe, there are lots of borderline NBA players. It's not like you get to some point and you're magically good enough,whilethe person slightly worse than you is not good enough and there's nothing that can change that.
There's so little difference between the 10-12th players on most teams and the first layer of players trying to just get on a team, that just a little improvement makes a big difference.For the players that aren't freak of nature athletes that are guaranteed a look, already having good fundamentals greatly increases your chances.
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There's so little difference between the 10-12th players on most teams and the first layer of players trying to just get on a team, that just a little improvement makes a big difference.For the players that aren't freak of nature athletes that are guaranteed a look, already having good fundamentals greatly increases your chances.
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