UFO's....Are they out there?

[Bill Derington]

Unless I’m mistaken all the Govt released video is from the Navy.
Surely the Air Force has video as well of interactions. I wonder if it hasn’t been released because it’s over US airspace?

 

[Lord Z]

I always liked Stephen Hawkins warning... maybe it's not a good idea to be blasting signals out into outer space because we might not like what answers us. In all of human history those that encountered superior more advanced people it didn't work out well for them so us calling in superior beings more than likely won't end well for us.

 

[DudahUK]

Universe is way too big for humans to be top dog, IMO.

 

[FltDoc]

Sure, I mean we send unmanned probes to other planets in our solar system seeking info, it doesn't really take much imagination to think other more advanced civilizations could be doing likewise to us. We know gravity warps time but don't understand how. Theoretically gravity based propulsion systems could take you from point a to point b in the galaxy almost instantly.

wormhole...??

 

[MoneyMuntz]

Universe is way too big for humans to be top dog, IMO.

The Fermi paradox is an interesting perspective In my opinion. With billions of galaxies each with billions of stars generating billions of planets you would expect many “earth-like” planets across the Milky Way. Given the amount of time for development of different intelligent species you would assume one or more would develop the technology to replicate across the galaxy. The fact that we (apparently) don’t possess evidence of them suggests that there is a great filter, that is a point at which civilizations die off before achieving that technological ability.

In my opinion it is most likely that AI could be used to do this. Most likely it wouldn’t be humanoids traveling across the galaxy but rather robots, which may or may not be in control of the home planet.

This is also similar to the basis for simulation theory which is at some point we should possess the computing power to simulate our own world. If we are capable of simulating our world at some point in the future, the odds that we are “Base” reality is minute. Elon Musk famously said there was a 1 in a billion chance we are base reality. I am a nerd for this stuff, but I love the thought exercises that going down these rabbit holes creates.

 

[DudahUK]

The Fermi paradox is an interesting perspective In my opinion. With billions of galaxies each with billions of stars generating billions of planets you would expect many “earth-like” planets across the Milky Way. Given the amount of time for development of different intelligent species you would assume one or more would develop the technology to replicate across the galaxy. The fact that we (apparently) don’t possess evidence of them suggests that there is a great filter, that is a point at which civilizations die off before achieving that technological ability.

In my opinion it is most likely that AI could be used to do this. Most likely it wouldn’t be humanoids traveling across the galaxy but rather robots, which may or may not be in control of the home planet.

This is also similar to the basis for simulation theory which is at some point we should possess the computing power to simulate our own world. If we are capable of simulating our world at some point in the future, the odds that we are “Base” reality is minute. Elon Musk famously said there was a 1 in a billion chance we are base reality. I am a nerd for this stuff, but I love the thought exercises that going down these rabbit holes creates.

Haven’t heard about all that. ***** scary man, the unknown. Thanks for that little lesson.

 

[christophero]

Interesting discussion today. Got me thinking how these crafts could be like drones, piloted from afar or programmed from another time or dimension. We're probably like people in the middle ages trying to understand television.

 

[MoneyMuntz]

Haven’t heard about all that. ***** scary man, the unknown. Thanks for that little lesson.

Yeah I guess it can be scary, but to me it’s humbling. We get so caught up in our day to day stresses that we don’t look at the bigger picture and understand what it means to be human.

 

[MoneyMuntz]

Interesting discussion today. Got me thinking how these crafts could be like drones, piloted from afar or programmed from another time or dimension. We're probably like people in the middle ages trying to understand television.

You’re so right man! These things probably look at us with our pee brains and laugh at how unaware we are

 

[DudahUK]

Yeah I guess it can be scary, but to me it’s humbling. We get so caught up in our day to day stresses that we don’t look at the bigger picture and understand what it means to be human.

Oh definitely humbling.

 

[Nubb16]

nah

 

[SmedMoley]

Humans have always imagined that superior beings are somewhere up in the sky, monitoring us. We’ve yet to have any tangible proof, yet some still believe it to be true.

Absolutely correct. The superior beings live in the ground, not the sky! Mole People! Those and the lava men. There's even movies about it.

 

[SmedMoley]

If extraterrestrial life exists that's advanced enough to traverse the solar system, then it wouldn't have to fly around in our atmosphere to observe us. It could read my computer monitor from the Kuiper Belt. And if they did for whatever silly reason decide to visibly zip around in our atmosphere, then I'd wager they'd know how not to get caught by Joe Jim Bob and his camcorder. XD

Do you ever go to the zoo? I mean, you could see videos and pictures on your phone. But people still physically go to places like parks and zoos, birdwatching, etc.

 

[Deeeefense]

wormhole...??

I'm no theoretical physicist but probably something more like warp drive.

 

[chroix]

We are way closer to cavemen than to any species that has figured out interstellar travel. If they make contact we're either food or pets at that point. I'm just hoping this is the military trying to keep some badass tech we've developed under wraps for as long as possible.

 

[Rebelfreedomeagle]

Interesting discussion today. Got me thinking how these crafts could be like drones, piloted from afar or programmed from another time or dimension. We're probably like people in the middle ages trying to understand television.

I like to think that little life forms on Mars saw NASA's helicopter and crapped themselves.

 

[Strokin_Bandit]

Did no one else watch that "debunked" video that was posted on the previous page? I'm a believer in Occam's Razor. Here's what I know:

- Humans have the ability to lie.
- The naked eye is easily tricked through optical illusions.
- Other countries that may have far advanced technologies would be proud to claim it and use it to their advantage and world domination.
- There is no extra-terrestrial life in or around this solar system.

I mean . . .

 

[MoneyMuntz]

Did no one else watch that "debunked" video that was posted on the previous page? I'm a believer in Occam's Razor. Here's what I know:

- Humans have the ability to lie.
- The naked eye is easily tricked through optical illusions.
- Other countries that may have far advanced technologies would be proud to claim it and use it to their advantage and world domination.
- There is no extra-terrestrial life in or around this solar system.

I mean . . .

Im a fan of Occam’s Razor but the easiest explanation for the FLIR video a not that multiple fighter pilots are lying and that our technology which validated it is also mistaken.

 

[FltDoc]

We are way closer to cavemen than to any species that has figured out interstellar travel. If they make contact we're either food or pets at that point. I'm just hoping this is the military trying to keep some badass tech we've developed under wraps for as long as possible.

Has been my thought all along...

 

[christophero]

Speaking of the eyes deceiving, there were two times I swore I saw a UFO. One time there was a light hovering above my town for about 5 minutes. It was the med evac helicopter above the hospital. Another time I saw lights in the clouds. It was a car dealership at night with those giant lights pointed at the sky.

 

[MdWIldcat55]

They are just coming to serve mankind. Wait...It's a cookbook!

 

[Deeeefense]

Has been my thought all along...

The late great Stan Friedman, nuclear physicist and lifetime UFO researcher was of the opinion that since UFO activity increased dramatically after the first atomic bomb was dropped, that "they" become more concerned with us as a specie. We are viewed as a volant race of people approaching a technological level that would allow space travel and that's what really concerns "them".

 

[chroix]

The late great Stan Friedman, nuclear physicist and lifetime UFO researcher was of the opinion that since UFO activity increased dramatically after the first atomic bomb was dropped, that "they" become more concerned with us as a specie. We are viewed as a volant race of people approaching a technological level that would allow space travel and that's what really concerns "them".

Ant farm getting out of control.

 

[KyFaninNC]

All of you skeptics need to watch a few episodes of Ancient Aliens.

Bingo

 

[IdaCat]

Haven’t heard about all that. ***** scary man, the unknown. Thanks for that little lesson.

You're probably not going to believe this, but I woke up one night and saw an alien standing at the foot of my bed. Classic short, gray skin, big head, huge slanted eyes, and a slit mouth. At first I thought it was just a ghost. I've had a problem with them as well.

Anyway, I pulled a .357 Magnum from my nightstand. I'm a fast draw, so he didn't have time to reach for his ray gun. The little bastard let out a high pitched squeal and took off down the stairs.

I chased him into my back yard where he popped the hatch on his flying saucer, jumped in, and took off at warp speed leaving a rainbow streak in the sky.

I think he wanted to do sexual experiments on me or something, but I don't identify with that crap.

 

[Nightwish84]

Maybe I'm naïve, but I find it hard to believe that China or Russia has technology so advanced, that our country can't even comprehend what it could be. And if that's the case, then it can't be too advanced if we're able to see these objects. I dunno, Joe Rogan probably thinks it's aliens, so I guess I'll go along with that as well.

 

[christophero]

These craft are defying the laws of physics and gravity. No way another country has this tech imo.

 

[WildcatDJ]

All part of the illusion

 

[Ahnan E. Muss]

These craft are defying the laws of physics and gravity. No way another country has this tech imo.

Please explain in which ways these crafts are defying the laws of physics and gravity. Be specific.

 

[christophero]

The way they are able to change direction. And seemingly disappear. Pilots of the Nimitz described the movements as impossible, at least for us at present. Maybe I worded that poorly, but it seems far ahead of anything we are presently capable of if real.

 

[Ahnan E. Muss]

I was hoping for something far more specific than that. What laws of physics are broken with how they change direction?

 

[christophero]

I'm not a scientist. Like I said I may have worded it poorly.
This is what Luis Elizando, former Dept. of Defense official said.
"Imagine a technology that can do 600 to 700 G-forces, that can fly 13,000 mph, has no obvious signs of propulsion, no wings, and can still defy the natural effects of Earth's gravity. This is what we are seeing."

 

[The-Hack]

I chased him into my back yard where he popped the hatch on his flying saucer, jumped in, and took off at warp speed leaving a rainbow streak in the sky.

He tried the same thing at my place, and when he took off, I swear it sounded like a Harley on steroids!

 

[The-Hack]

This is what we are seeing."

Seriously, any skeptics left need to do an hour’s research on You Tube. Watch films of Astronauts, Generals, admirals, etc., etc., acknowledging the truth.

I don’t know who they are or where they are from. God and Angels? Aliens from afar? Aliens from a close parallel universe? Deep Ocean based intelligent life?

But this much is certain: one or more seemingly impossible scenarios must be true.

The First Nation that masters the issue will be in a stronger position than the US was with its 4 year sole-nuclear capacity.

 

[JDHoss]

I was hoping for something far more specific than that. What laws of physics are broken with how they change direction?

I offer Barry Sanders....

 

[The-Hack]

I offer Barry Sanders....

Ok, the laws of physics, excepting Barry Sanders!

 

[The-Hack]

Please explain in which ways these crafts are defying the laws of physics and gravity. Be specific.

Well, exceeding the speed of sound without a sonic boom.

 

[Lord Z]

You're probably not going to believe this, but I woke up one night and saw an alien standing at the foot of my bed. Classic short, gray skin, big head, huge slanted eyes, and a slit mouth. At first I thought it was just a ghost. I've had a problem with them as well.

Anyway, I pulled a .357 Magnum from my nightstand. I'm a fast draw, so he didn't have time to reach for his ray gun. The little bastard let out a high pitched squeal and took off down the stairs.

I chased him into my back yard where he popped the hatch on his flying saucer, jumped in, and took off at warp speed leaving a rainbow streak in the sky.

I think he wanted to do sexual experiments on me or something, but I don't identify with that crap.

How do you know he didn't already get in on that before you woke up?

 

[The-Hack]

In all of human history those that encountered superior more advanced people it didn't work out well for them

Generally true. But in our recent modernity, we have chosen to leave hunter-gatherer societies alone on isolated island settings in the Indian Ocean, and in the depths of the Brazilian outback.

If these things are “advanced” and we are no threat to them, they likely make a run by, occasionally, to see if we have wiped each other out, and for some laughs.

 

[thabigbluenation]

Well it would be our planet and not us that would be of their interests. A planet capable of sustaining life would mean a great deal and does to us and I would assume it does to any intelligent life capable of venturing this way. No way would we be a threat.

That being said, perceiving any alien lifeform the way we do, we assume they are of some sort of biological organic form, doesn't seem plausible. The universe is a violent unforgiving place full of radiation and everything else deadly to anything anywhere similar to us. Which leads me to believe if anything is out there taking a peak it would be more machine like in nature. A.I. robotic, maybe cyborganic in nature. Maybe there is the mother race on a ship somewhere sending out the drones.

Most anything we know about involves mass, speed, and energy. Knowledge of any of these are far too inferior to traverse space especially considering how feeble and weak the human body really is. So if anything were out there, I find it really hard to believe we are even capable yet of understanding how or where or when they come from and do it.