Uh Oh! Comey could be subject to arrest and prosecution

[WVPATX]

Oops! If Comey Memo Is Real and He Held It and Did Not Turn It Over – He May Be Prosecuted



Well this wasn’t supposed to happen.

FOX News legal expert Gregg Jarrett argued Tuesday that if James Comey obstructed justice and held onto a memo of the president asking him to end an investigation then Comey could be prosecuted.

Oops.
FOX News reported:

Three months ago, the then-FBI Director met with President Trump. Following their private conversation, Comey did what he always does –he wrote a memorandum to himself memorializing the conversation. Good lawyers do that routinely.

Now, only after Comey was fired, the memo magically surfaces in an inflammatory New York Times report which alleges that Mr. Trump asked Comey to end the Michael Flynn investigation.

Those who don’t know the first thing about the law immediately began hurling words like “obstruction of justice”, “high crimes and misdemeanors” and “impeachment“. Typically, these people don’t know what they don’t know.

Here is what we do know.

Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.

So, if Comey believed Trump attempted to obstruct justice, did he comply with the law by reporting it to the DOJ? If not, it calls into question whether the events occurred as the Times reported it.

 

[Boomboom521]

So IF he decided to not throw a newly elected President under the bus by claiming he obstructed justice, he should be arrested? Right? It's Comey that would be the problem then? Comey? Because he didn't pursue an obstruction of justice charge against the President?

You realize that IF this was true, Trump would have had to actually obstruct justice, right?

 

[WVPATX]

So IF he decided to not throw a newly elected President under the bus by claiming he obstructed justice, he should be arrested? Right? It's Comey that would be the problem then? Comey? Because he didn't pursue an obstruction of justice charge against the President?

You realize that IF this was true, Trump would have had to actually obstruct justice, right?

It's the law and yes he should be prosecuted if Trump attempted to obstruct the investigation or stop it. At what point do you stop giving elites a pass on breaking the law? If you or I did it, we would be prosecuted. Comey is no different than you or me. He must follow the law.

My strong hunch is that Comey did not think that Trump instructed him to end the investigation or to obstruct it. He knows the law. He is an attorney.

 

[Boomboom521]

It's the law and yes he should be prosecuted if Trump attempted to obstruct the investigation or stop it. At what point do you stop giving elites a pass on breaking the law? If you or I did it, we would be prosecuted. Comey is no different than you or me. He must follow the law.

My strong hunch is that Comey did not think that Trump instructed him to end the investigation or to obstruct it. He knows the law. He is an attorney.

My point is not that Comey should be given a pass, but that (to me) the bigger story is that our President attempted to obstruct justice.

 

[bornaneer]

My strong hunch is that Comey did not think that Trump instructed him to end the investigation or to obstruct it. He knows the law. He is an attorney.

Correct....however you are not buying into the narrative that the media is jamming down the throats of the low IQ crowd.

 

[bornaneer]

My point is not that Comey should be given a pass, but that (to me) the bigger story is that our President attempted to obstruct justice.

He did ? .......Lets see your proof.

 

[Keyser76]

Correct....however you are not buying into the narrative that the media is jamming down the throats of the low IQ crowd.

lmfao, what are you guys? the high IQ crowd? Yeah, this is bigly bad for Comey.

 

[WVPATX]

My point is not that Comey should be given a pass, but that (to me) the bigger story is that our President attempted to obstruct justice.

We have zero idea if he did. You have no idea, I have no idea. From what I read, that is clearly not an attempt to obstruct justice. He did not order Comey to drop the investigation. Maybe that is why Comey did not alert DOJ as required by law. You haven't seen the memo, I haven't seen the memo. We have no idea how accurate it is nor do we have Trump's side of the conservation.

We have something called due process where both sides are protected. You seem willing to convict based on one story in the NY Times that absolutely hates Trump. The memo will be released to Congress. Comey will be called to testify.

But Comey is in very dangerous territory. If he claims Trump tried to obstruct the investigation, Comey and and most likely will be charged by DOJ.

 

[Keyser76]

He did ? .......Lets see your proof.

That would be the Comey memo of record, or the Tapes Trump has.

 

[WVPATX]

Correct....however you are not buying into the narrative that the media is jamming down the throats of the low IQ crowd.

I read excerpts of the NY Times piece, and in no way is that obstruction of justice.

 

[Boomboom521]

He did ? .......Lets see your proof.

Maybe you just simply didn't read the posts in the thread, so I'm not going to get all crazy. It was a response to Paxxx's original thread discussing Comey being guilty. Personally, I don't think any of it happened......until I read the memo.

 

[moe]

I read excerpts of the NY Times piece, and in no way is that obstruction of justice.

Well I guess that settles it.

 

[bornaneer]

That would be the Comey memo of record, or the Tapes Trump has.

Tapes would be proof.....memo is basically useless unless backed up by others in the meeting.

 

[Keyser76]

We have zero idea if he did. You have no idea, I have no idea. From what I read, that is clearly not an attempt to obstruct justice. He did not order Comey to drop the investigation. Maybe that is why Comey did not alert DOJ as required by law. You haven't seen the memo, I haven't seen the memo. We have no idea how accurate it is nor do we have Trump's side of the conservation.

We have something called due process where both sides are protected. You seem willing to convict based on one story in the NY Times that absolutely hates Trump. The memo will be released to Congress. Comey will be called to testify.

But Comey is in very dangerous territory. If he claims Trump tried to obstruct the investigation, Comey and and most likely will be charged by DOJ.

Why the **** do you care what idea I have? lol I have a very good idea that trump obstructed justice by asking Comey to back off the investigation. Fits with all of the fallout before and Trumps own psyche not to mention Comey memo of record. It's hardly a stretch to think the head of the FBI makes memos of record when he meets with the President and they hold up in court, I checked. . You act like you are going to save him on here or something. If Jesus came back and said he had evidence Trump was a tool you guys would trash Jesus.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Well I guess that settles it.

Justice PATX has spoketh.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

It's the law and yes he should be prosecuted

[laughing]

You're precious!

 

[Keyser76]

Tapes would be proof.....memo is basically useless unless backed up by others in the meeting.

Keep thinking so, I already checked. I imagine Pence and McMaster would be asked under oath if they were asked to leave the room as the memo states for a start. Also, knowing the FBI, they didn't leak the most damaging memo first. But don't take my word for it, check out "Memo for records" history as it pertains to legal proceedings.

 

[Boomboom521]

We have zero idea if he did. You have no idea, I have no idea. From what I read, that is clearly not an attempt to obstruct justice. He did not order Comey to drop the investigation. Maybe that is why Comey did not alert DOJ as required by law. You haven't seen the memo, I haven't seen the memo. We have no idea how accurate it is nor do we have Trump's side of the conservation.

We have something called due process where both sides are protected. You seem willing to convict based on one story in the NY Times that absolutely hates Trump. The memo will be released to Congress. Comey will be called to testify.

But Comey is in very dangerous territory. If he claims Trump tried to obstruct the investigation, Comey and and most likely will be charged by DOJ.

Geez Paxxx, your original post on this thread was stating about how much trouble Comey would be in if he didn't report Trump obstructing justice. I just wanted to point out how ridiculous it is that anyone would only be worried about Comey in this situation.

Due process protects Comey too now doesn't it. Stop being so condescending, for people from "real America" that claim to be "real Americans" and not elitist.....you guys sure act like you're better than other people a lot. Always talking down to others and such.

 

[WVPATX]

Well I guess that settles it.

Like I posted, if Comey thought it was obstructing justice, he is bound under the law to notify DOJ. He did not.

 

[bornaneer]

Keep thinking so, I already checked. I imagine Pence and McMaster would be asked under oath if they were asked to leave the room as the memo states for a start. Also, knowing the FBI, they didn't leak the most damaging memo first. But don't take my word for it, check out "Memo for records" history as it pertains to legal proceedings.

I'll defer to you since I'm no expert on FBI legalities. I based my opinion on knowing what skilled legal counsel would do with this.

 

[WVPATX]

Geez Paxxx, your original post on this thread was stating about how much trouble Comey would be in if he didn't report Trump obstructing justice. I just wanted to point out how ridiculous it is that anyone would only be worried about Comey in this situation.

Due process protects Comey too now doesn't it. Stop being so condescending, for people from "real America" that claim to be "real Americans" and not elitist.....you guys sure act like you're better than other people a lot. Always talking down to others and such.

Boom, I defended you and Obama against the charge he is not a real American and then you post the above garbage. READ before you post.

The point of my post is that Comey knows the law. If he thought it was obstruction of justice as libs claim, he was required by law to report it to DOJ. He did not. Therefore logic dictates that he did not think it was obstruction.

 

[moe]

Boom, I defended you and Obama against the charge he is not a real American and then you post the above garbage. READ before you post.

The point of my post is that Comey knows the law. If he thought it was obstruction of justice as libs claim, he was required by law to report it to DOJ. He did not. Therefore logic dictates that he did not think it was obstruction.

Comey learned it as part of the greater Trump campaign/Russia collusion investigation. It was mentioned last night that he would have issues on specifically who to tell and when. It was also mentioned that he may have thought that sharing the contents of the memo with the DOJ for instance could have interfered with the larger investigation as the info could go public and that would not help matters. Maybe Comey had a larger window of opportunity to take that info to the DOJ and that simply because he didn't do it then doesn't mean that he has legal problems now. There sure are a lot of **** house lawyers (including yourself) on the board today. These matters will all be sorted out in time and I'd say that anyone making definitive statements here today simply don't know what they're talking about, are just guessing and could either be right or wrong but that happens on the board all the time. As you were.

 

[WVPATX]

Comey learned it as part of the greater Trump campaign/Russia collusion investigation. It was mentioned last night that he would have issues on specifically who to tell and when. It was also mentioned that he may have thought that sharing the contents of the memo with the DOJ for instance could have interfered with the larger investigation as the info could go public and that would not help matters. Maybe Comey had a larger window of opportunity to take that info to the DOJ and that simply because he didn't do it then doesn't mean that he has legal problems now. There sure are a lot of **** house lawyers (including yourself) on the board today. These matters will all be sorted out in time and I'd say that anyone making definitive statements here today simply don't know what they're talking about, are just guessing and could either be right or wrong but that happens on the board all the time. As you were.

You have zero idea if any of this is true. All we know for certain, is that if Comey thought Trump was trying to obstruct the investigation, he MUST inform DOJ. If not, it is a criminal offense. He did not inform DOJ. Therefore, he must not have thought Trump was trying to obstruct justice and from what the NY Times reported, I agree. More importantly, there are two sides to this story. It is a classic he said, she said.

 

[Keyser76]

You have zero idea if any of this is true. All we know for certain, is that if Comey thought Trump was trying to obstruct the investigation, he MUST inform DOJ. If not, it is a criminal offense. He did not inform DOJ. Therefore, he must not have thought Trump was trying to obstruct justice and from what the NY Times reported, I agree. More importantly, there are two sides to this story. It is a classic he said, she said.

But the he said made a memo for record, the she said may have tapes who knows. Of course there are two sides to every story, the truth ad what Trump wants to tell his true believers.

 

[WVPATX]

But the he said made a memo for record, the she said may have tapes who knows. Of course there are two sides to every story, the truth ad what Trump wants to tell his true believers.

Same is true for the true lib believers. If Comey's memo demonstrates obstruction of justice and Comey did not notify DOJ, he is in serious trouble. Whoever at the FBI that leaked that information is doing Comey no favors. DOJ is now run by Sessions, not Lynch. Big difference.

 

[moe]

He did not inform DOJ.

He hadn't informed them yet but he doesn't work there anymore so....

 

[WVPATX]

He hadn't informed them yet but he doesn't work there anymore so....

The dinner occurred 3 months ago. Nice try.

 

[moe]

The dinner occurred 3 months ago. Nice try.

So how long did Comey have to take the info to the DOJ? Answer: You don't know so quit trying to act like you possess any knowledge whatsoever on these matters, thx.

 

[WVPATX]

So how long did Comey have to take the info to the DOJ? Answer: You don't know so quit trying to act like you possess any knowledge whatsoever on these matters, thx.

I do know that he is required by law to inform DOJ. He is now out of government so I believe he missed the deadline. If Trump tried to obstruct justice and Comey did not advise DOJ, he is in big trouble and Sessions will act.

 

[moe]

I do know that he is required by law to inform DOJ. He is now out of government so I believe he missed the deadline. If Trump tried to obstruct justice and Comey did not advise DOJ, he is in big trouble and Sessions will act.

Still want to make that bet that Trump will finish his 4 year term???

 

[WVPATX]

Still want to make that bet that Trump will finish his 4 year term???

Sure. You got the money?

 

[moe]

Sure. You got the money?

Sorry but I don't bet with anonymous message board people with mental issues besides I'd feel bad taking your money. I just did you a favor.

 

[WVPATX]

Sorry but I don't bet with anonymous message board people with mental issues besides I'd feel bad taking your money. I just did you a favor.

I didn't think you would.

 

[eerdoc]

It's the law and yes he should be prosecuted if Trump attempted to obstruct the investigation or stop it. At what point do you stop giving elites a pass on breaking the law? If you or I did it, we would be prosecuted. Comey is no different than you or me. He must follow the law.

My strong hunch is that Comey did not think that Trump instructed him to end the investigation or to obstruct it. He knows the law. He is an attorney.

SO very many appear to be twisting what Trump may actually have said. Some are saying he alluded to the case and ASKED what MIGHT be possible. A very F A R cry and major stretch by the Dems and media to have this become a demand that the investigation be stopped. I am not one of those who believe the Dems constantly lie---they ONLY lie when they are breathing.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

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I do know that he is required by law to inform DOJ. He is now out of government so I believe he missed the deadline. If Trump tried to obstruct justice and Comey did not advise DOJ, he is in big trouble and Sessions will act.

You don't seriously believe this?

I knew you were stupid, but damn, this is a whole new level. You are probably too stupid to realize that you should be embarrassed as hell right now to post such nonsense. This really is some of the most stupid **** I have seen in a long, long time. At your level of stupidity, you are a menace to society. You should not be allowed to operate a motor vehicle or walk in a crowded downtown area. You should have someone guide you through town and tell you when it is safe to cross the street. I'll bet you wear shoes with Velcro instead of laces.

 

[atlkvb]

Maybe you just simply didn't read the posts in the thread, so I'm not going to get all crazy. It was a response to Paxxx's original thread discussing Comey being guilty. Personally, I don't think any of it happened......until I read the memo.

This is what we all have to see, I agree with boomer here. On the face of it there is no obstruction charge, but it all depends on what Comey wrote in that memo. If he thinks Trump asked him to drop the investigation, it's pretty obvious Trump's *** is in the sling. If Comey didn't write anything remotely suggesting that, the NYT has just added another layer of bird cage liner to it's growing supply.

 

[Keyser76]

Trump should have sessions issue a warrant for Comeys arrest because of PATX stated reason,what could go wrong with the optics on that? lol

 

[atlkvb]

I didn't think you would.

Then why make the offer moe?

post # 30 moe writes: "Still want to make that bet that Trump will finish his 4 year term???"

So you welch on bets you make before refusing to even make them right moe my Man?

 

[WVPATX]

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You don't seriously believe this?

I knew you were stupid, but damn, this is a whole new level. You are probably too stupid to realize that you should be embarrassed as hell right now to post such nonsense. This really is some of the most stupid **** I have seen in a long, long time. At your level of stupidity, you are a menace to society. You should not be allowed to operate a motor vehicle or walk in a crowded downtown area. You should have someone guide you through town and tell you when it is safe to cross the street. I'll bet you wear shoes with Velcro instead of laces.

Your argument is not with me but with the attorneys that described DOJ requirements.

 

[WVPATX]

This is what we all have to see, I agree with boomer here. On the face of it there is no obstruction charge, but it all depends on what Comey wrote in that memo. If he thinks Trump asked him to drop the investigation, it's pretty obvious Trump's *** is in the sling. If Comey didn't write anything remotely suggesting that, the NYT has just added another layer of bird cage liner to it's growing supply.

Actually, I don't agree. Comey wrote the memo. The White House has denied its contents. If Comey did not record the conversation, it is he said, he said. You have to have direct evidence.