Uh oh! McClatchy reports that Top Secret emails were found on Hillary's server

mneilmont

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It was wrong in all cases. I'm not sure what rules were in place for any of the three, but if strong rules don't exist, preventing this in the future, they should be fixed. Can't fix the past, but no reason for this to continue going forward.
Heard that FBI gives orientation class regarding this to everyone with her level of clearance. Rule is that if you don't know classification, assume everything is confidential
 

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Heard that FBI gives orientation class regarding this to everyone with her level of clearance. Rule is that if you don't know classification, assume everything is confidential


Two of the 40 had the highest security rating of Top Secret. Patraeus had the lowest classification, Confidential. The two Top Secret were marked Top Secret when she received them according to inside investigators.
 

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Two of the 40 had the highest security rating of Top Secret. Patraeus had the lowest classification, Confidential. The two Top Secret were marked Top Secret when she received them according to inside investigators.
Point being that her transmissions in/out did not have to be marked - everything not marked is assumed "confidential". She, and supporters, are offering as defense they were not marked when received - won't work.
 

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Point being that her transmissions in/out did not have to be marked - everything not marked is assumed "confidential". She, and supporters, are offering as defense they were not marked when received - won't work.

That's correct. But it is highly likely the Top Secret emails were marked Top Secret when she received them.

Easy to read explanation from The Daily Beast.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/12/the-spy-satellite-secrets-in-hillary-s-emails.html
 

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I looked it up, and what I'm seeing is that 4 emails were determined to be classified, and 2 of those 4 were top secret. I didn't see any mention of 40 emails - either as the total number examined or a number brought into question.
"Those two messages were pulled out of a pool of just 40 emails reviewed by the inspector general for the intelligence community. All told, there may be hundreds of classified emails among the roughly 30,000 work-related emails that Clinton has handed over to the State Department, according to the inspector general."

http://www.thehill.com/policy/national-security/250991-turmoil-mounts-surrounding-clinton-emails
 
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Point being that her transmissions in/out did not have to be marked - everything not marked is assumed "confidential". She, and supporters, are offering as defense they were not marked when received - won't work.
There is no category titled confidential.
Keep in mind, there is a huge difference between not following policy and breaking the law.
 

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There is no category titled confidential.
Keep in mind, there is a huge difference between not following policy and breaking the law.

Where do you get your information?

Terminology

Derivative Classification Activity 1996-2011
In the U.S., information is called "classified" if it has been assigned one of the three levels: Confidential, Secret, or Top Secret. Information that is not so labeled is called "Unclassified information". The term declassified is used for information that has had its classification removed, and downgraded refers to information that has been assigned a lower classification level but is still classified. Many documents are automatically downgraded and then declassified after some number of years.[citation needed] The U.S. government uses the terms Sensitive But Unclassified (SBU), Sensitive Security Information (SSI), Critical Program Information (CPI), For Official Use Only(FOUO), or Law Enforcement Sensitive (LES) to refer to information that is not Confidential, Secret, or Top Secret, but whose dissemination is still restricted. Reasons for such restrictions can include export controls, privacy regulations, court orders, and ongoing criminal investigations, as well as national security. Information that was never classified is sometimes referred to as "open source" by those who work in classified activities. Public Safety Sensitive (PSS) refers to information that is similar to Law Enforcement Sensitive but could be shared between the various public safety disciplines (Law Enforcement, Fire, and Emergency Medical Services). Peter Louis Galison, a historian and Director[11] in the History of Science Dept. at Harvard University, claims that the U.S. Government produces more classified information than unclassified information.[12]
 

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Where do you get your information?

Terminology

Derivative Classification Activity 1996-2011
In the U.S., information is called "classified" if it has been assigned one of the three levels: Confidential, Secret, or Top Secret. Information that is not so labeled is called "Unclassified information". The term declassified is used for information that has had its classification removed, and downgraded refers to information that has been assigned a lower classification level but is still classified. Many documents are automatically downgraded and then declassified after some number of years.[citation needed] The U.S. government uses the terms Sensitive But Unclassified (SBU), Sensitive Security Information (SSI), Critical Program Information (CPI), For Official Use Only(FOUO), or Law Enforcement Sensitive (LES) to refer to information that is not Confidential, Secret, or Top Secret, but whose dissemination is still restricted. Reasons for such restrictions can include export controls, privacy regulations, court orders, and ongoing criminal investigations, as well as national security. Information that was never classified is sometimes referred to as "open source" by those who work in classified activities. Public Safety Sensitive (PSS) refers to information that is similar to Law Enforcement Sensitive but could be shared between the various public safety disciplines (Law Enforcement, Fire, and Emergency Medical Services). Peter Louis Galison, a historian and Director[11] in the History of Science Dept. at Harvard University, claims that the U.S. Government produces more classified information than unclassified information.[12]
Thanks. I will not have to respond because some would think it is piling on.