UK/JMI go after KSR

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Wow, I wonder what Matt did to piss if UK and Mitch?
KSR has been guilty of daring to criticize John Calipari's coaching.

The Cal Cancel Culture is eating one of their very own woke entities.

This is what eventually happens to every society that makes the mistake of trying to silence their critics.

It never ends well.......for anyone.
 

BourbonBalz

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It doesn't take much difference to get by copyright laws with logos. It only needs a slight change and it's no longer the UK logo.


Edit: They should put a checkerboard in the middle instead of solid blue. Or they could use my avatar, the color fade and skewed edges are different enough for the laws.
Greenwood High School in Bowling Green uses pretty much the same logo.
 
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This is pretty basic and common stuff. There are licensing agreements, sponsorships etc. that need to be protected. Every program does this.

And uk is equally aggressive. Everything from tshirts to suing ky mist (small moonshine distillery in whitesburg) not long ago over their combination of kentucky with a blue background

Jones kept pushing the boundaries, then pushed too far. He knows better he's just whining hoping for special treatment.

Rules for thee but not for me. Just like he wanted it when he mulled a congressional run. No surprise.
 

yoshukai

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I am not in the legal profession but I have been told this by many people that are. The way that IP property works in the courts is that you defend your IP against everyone or you effectively lose the right to enforce it against anyone. In other words if a charity is using Mickey Mouse to help feed the poor then Disney has to sue them as if they are a rival company improperly using it. They can't choose to let it go in some cases. That may be why UK is doing this. If KSR is improperly using UK's IP then UK's hands are tied. They have to take action no matter who it is.
Makes perfect sense.
 

c1doc

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interesting to note, and I could be wrong on this but....

didn't KSR sell their website to Barstool Sports?

and after that happened, I think you noticed a definite change in tone as it comes to support for Cal.

Stories from writers imploring Cal to stop lying, questioning his coaching decisions, substitution patterns, his post game comments - I mean, basically everything I do here, but I didn't build my brand on being UK's lapdog, and launch a book writing, restaurant owning, radio show career from it, then sell out to an unbiased 3rd party.

My wife wishes I did, but none the less I did not.

So maybe UK is like screw you KSR, you used to suck up to us but now that you've got a little cash in your pocket, you call it like you see it, and we don't like it.

just my observation.
Yes, I thought it was awful and very uncomfortable with Matt, Drew and Ryan calling Cal a Liar on Air! I would never say that about a “friend” of mine!
 

kb22stang

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Far be it for me to point out a hissy by Matt Jones and he be wrong but it’s likely some corporate decision at the JMI level, not UK (Mitch, Cal or anybody else) plus, while Matt is philosophically correct in saying this is stupid by UK and JMI, from a business standpoint it’s absolutely the correct call. Let’s say they let KSR slide on this but stop Buffalo Wild Wings or some other local restaurant. Those restaurants would have a legitimate gripe. JMI spent a lot of money to own the UK name, to distribute it as they see fit. Is it right, that people like Matt Jones are able to profit off the use just because he’s simultaneously promoting it at the same time? UK or JMI makes no profit share off the promotion at KSRbar.

I also can’t believe the lawyer in Matt doesn’t see the liability issue here. Let’s say someone comes to one of his promoted UK games at KSR bar. Gets drunk, drive and smacks into and injures a person. Later comes out they went to KSR bar for the game. KSR bar is using licensed UK logos to promote it. Guy wouldn’t have gone there without those promotions...UK could be lumped into an injury lawsuit.

there’s a lot of reasons why UK doe


This is exactly right. And it's not like you have to use the logo to get people to show up/listen. Once you attach the logo it is like UK is sponsoring what you're doing. Matt, while generally annoying, isn't dumb, he knows all of this.
 
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Yes, I thought it was awful and very uncomfortable with Matt, Drew and Ryan calling Cal a Liar on Air! I would never say that about a “friend” of mine!

Of course after Jones' pal Peevy accepted another job, the uk basketball gravy train stopped. So did the info, which is why he really has no idea about anything basketball related. Still good football info though.
 

CB3UK

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I don't recall ever seeing them use the UK logo outright. But if they are they sure as heck know better.
 
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Kybluedude

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I hate bullies. UK and JMI biting a hand that helps promote them. Big money trying to stop the little guys.

Mitch lucked out with UK getting a part of the huge SEC tv contract because he sure can’t market. The no beer sales outside the Corp suites is another example of the regular guy bias. Ticket prices through the roof. It’s already tough going and here’s a local restaurant being threatened.

We have recruits committing in KSR and outside media and our coaches in their place several fundraisers. Watch parties. C’mon Mitch get out of the country club mindset and live and let live.

Just plain bullying.
 
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Big Blue Beast

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Sure seems to me Matt has been a lot more critical of Cal lately. I wonder if this is blowback.
When you think about it, Matt wasn't invited to this UK table where he dines and gets the $$ that he gets. They let him come in, and sit down. Now , if you come into my house without me asking you and you sit down to eat at my table, and I dont say a word, please be considerate that you are a guest. I think Matt has forgotten his place in the order that things are to be done at the great UK.
He wrote his book taking shots at Mitch, He sold the KSR website to make some money, and has been complaining about Cal to the Big Blue Nation, not saying any of this is wrong. But, then he went after the horse business , about the gambling and calling all the Reps up. He has that right, and once again, not saying he is wrong in this.
But he needs to remember that when you start throwing **** at my table, i might throw it back, so be ready.
JMO.
 

zannmann

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Barney has went after everybody over the years for branding rights. This is nothing new for him. He is a bean counter and acts like one.
 

Dr. H Lecter

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Jones likes to trot out his Duke Lawyer pants status in order to give himself a cloak of intellectual superiority. He must have slept during the classes where they explained stealing intellectual property or trademark infringement. If you do not assert your rights you can lose them. Jones is just trying to take something for free that I am sure he could actually pay for its use. I suppose crying like a little beotch is how he is approaching this.
 

FrankUnderwood

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Pretty pathetic and weak move by UK, Mitch and JMI. really disgraceful on their part. Like them or not, KSR is the #1 UK supporter/promoter/connector for UK sports. UKAA continues to show they are completely clueless when it comes to fan engagement and how to treat the regular fans.






I think it’s wonderful (-:

You sound super triggered and oUtRagEd tho lol. Which is fun to see if nothing else.


🤷🏽‍♂️
 

RunninRichie

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It doesn't take much difference to get by copyright laws with logos. It only needs a slight change and it's no longer the UK logo.


Edit: They should put a checkerboard in the middle instead of solid blue. Or they could use my avatar, the color fade and skewed edges are different enough for the laws.
Georgia asked the packers for permisjson to use their logo way back.
 

BleedBlueCats21

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I think it's a petty and unnecessary move by JMI/UK. Having said that, Matt and KSR shouldn't be all that surprised to see some blowback. They've been extremely critical on the radio show of both Cal and Mitch (not saying it has been without merit, just stating facts). I'm guessing UK also wasn't thrilled about KSBar running a special based on how many points the basketball team lost by.

Ultimately, I don’t see how this really affects KSBar's bottom line or anything. Are people really going to not show up because the official UK logo isn't on the advertisements? No.

I did find MJ's pity party tweet storm to be pretty amusing. Very reminiscent of a politician whipping his base into a frenzy and paint UK as the bad guy.
 

CB3UK

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If I had to guess helps recent ranking of the horse industry with the slots and what not probably have more to do with this pushback than UK.
 
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Soupbean

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Far be it for me to point out a hissy by Matt Jones and he be wrong but it’s likely some corporate decision at the JMI level, not UK (Mitch, Cal or anybody else) plus, while Matt is philosophically correct in saying this is stupid by UK and JMI, from a business standpoint it’s absolutely the correct call. Let’s say they let KSR slide on this but stop Buffalo Wild Wings or some other local restaurant. Those restaurants would have a legitimate gripe. JMI spent a lot of money to own the UK name, to distribute it as they see fit. Is it right, that people like Matt Jones are able to profit off the use just because he’s simultaneously promoting it at the same time? UK or JMI makes no profit share off the promotion at KSRbar.

I also can’t believe the lawyer in Matt doesn’t see the liability issue here. Let’s say someone comes to one of his promoted UK games at KSR bar. Gets drunk, drive and smacks into and injures a person. Later comes out they went to KSR bar for the game. KSR bar is using licensed UK logos to promote it. Guy wouldn’t have gone there without those promotions...UK could be lumped into an injury lawsuit.

there’s a lot of reasons why UK doe
I see your point, but most business dont mind folks profiting off of them as long as they are promoting them. Think those folks are called "sales reps".
 
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I hate bullies. UK and JMI biting a hand that helps promote them. Big money trying to stop the little guys.

Mitch lucked out with UK getting a part of the huge SEC tv contract because he sure can’t market. The no beer sales outside the Corp suites is another example of the regular guy bias. Ticket prices through the roof. It’s already tough going and here’s a local restaurant being threatened.

We have recruits committing in KSR and outside media and our coaches in their place several fundraisers. Watch parties. C’mon Mitch get out of the country club mindset and live and let live.

Just plain bullying.

Lol noone heard of uk sports before Jones?

Uk had just as much pub before Jones. Jones just consolidated what used to be 3 or 4 voices. Oscar combs deserves way more respect than jones.
 

SkyTalker

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Only thing I can think of is schools like UK and others receive royalties off officially licensed merchandise. So when someone like Matt or some other vendor starts selling their own UK stuff...not only is it not officially licensed but it also technically takes money away from the school because they aren't getting royalties off it.

But agree...kind of a jackass move all the way around. It's not like UK doesn't have enough money....but I guess they are trying to reign in non-licensed folks?
 

MakinMusic_rivals

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Rules are rules. Just the way it goes. Sometimes you have to set “vendors” (media in this case) straight. As Bobby Knight once said, “We all learned to write in the 3rd grade. Some of us moved on to bigger and better things.”
 
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RACdad

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Far be it for me to point out a hissy by Matt Jones and he be wrong but it’s likely some corporate decision at the JMI level, not UK (Mitch, Cal or anybody else) plus, while Matt is philosophically correct in saying this is stupid by UK and JMI, from a business standpoint it’s absolutely the correct call. Let’s say they let KSR slide on this but stop Buffalo Wild Wings or some other local restaurant. Those restaurants would have a legitimate gripe. JMI spent a lot of money to own the UK name, to distribute it as they see fit. Is it right, that people like Matt Jones are able to profit off the use just because he’s simultaneously promoting it at the same time? UK or JMI makes no profit share off the promotion at KSRbar.

I also can’t believe the lawyer in Matt doesn’t see the liability issue here. Let’s say someone comes to one of his promoted UK games at KSR bar. Gets drunk, drive and smacks into and injures a person. Later comes out they went to KSR bar for the game. KSR bar is using licensed UK logos to promote it. Guy wouldn’t have gone there without those promotions...UK could be lumped into an injury lawsuit.

there’s a lot of reasons why UK doe
If you listen to him, you will realize he would be/is a terrible lawyer