UK/JMI go after KSR

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Pretty pathetic and weak move by UK, Mitch and JMI. really disgraceful on their part. Like them or not, KSR is the #1 UK supporter/promoter/connector for UK sports. UKAA continues to show they are completely clueless when it comes to fan engagement and how to treat the regular fans.




If MJ is upset then Ryan has to be doubly upset.
 

CatCrazyChuk

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KSR has been guilty of daring to criticize John Calipari's coaching.

The Cal Cancel Culture is eating one of their very own woke entities.

This is what eventually happens to every society that makes the mistake of trying to silence their critics.

It never ends well.......for anyone.

^ EXACTLY
 

Pickle_Rick

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So are UK gonna claim the outline of the state of Kentucky, and the color blue copy right protected. If I was Jones, I'd copy a blue wildcat flipping everybody off. Let them take that to court.
 

bkingUK

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I like Matt, I like KSR.

But...

1) I’m sure marketing guys would disagree but I’m skeptical that putting the UK logo on a sign or banner actually increases sales of KSBar. I think a professional banner would have same effect. Now, if you have printed material and it’s a loss because you must now pay for new material, that’s a legit gripe.

2) I’m sure IP guys would disagree but I’m skeptical JMI has any more than a small amount of risk by allowing this. It’s lawyers lawyering. I’m sure there is a slippery slope, but then there is also an easy work around. Take a trademarked sign and juxtapose it against a custom sign. Does that damage IP? No. It’s petty.
 

know1

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Far be it for me to point out a hissy by Matt Jones and he be wrong but it’s likely some corporate decision at the JMI level, not UK (Mitch, Cal or anybody else) plus, while Matt is philosophically correct in saying this is stupid by UK and JMI, from a business standpoint it’s absolutely the correct call. Let’s say they let KSR slide on this but stop Buffalo Wild Wings or some other local restaurant. Those restaurants would have a legitimate gripe. JMI spent a lot of money to own the UK name, to distribute it as they see fit. Is it right, that people like Matt Jones are able to profit off the use just because he’s simultaneously promoting it at the same time? UK or JMI makes no profit share off the promotion at KSRbar.

I also can’t believe the lawyer in Matt doesn’t see the liability issue here. Let’s say someone comes to one of his promoted UK games at KSR bar. Gets drunk, drive and smacks into and injures a person. Later comes out they went to KSR bar for the game. KSR bar is using licensed UK logos to promote it. Guy wouldn’t have gone there without those promotions...UK could be lumped into an injury lawsuit.

there’s a lot of reasons why UK doe
And this is the voice of reason, everyone. KSR has been pushing the envelope on this since the beginning and has been benefitting when they shouldn't have been.
 
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And since he still won't shut up about it - I'm pretty certain that experts came up with how trademarks and such should be used, and like some guy on the radio is always saying you should ALWAYS listen to experts.
 

csrupp

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Pretty pathetic and weak move by UK, Mitch and JMI. really disgraceful on their part. Like them or not, KSR is the #1 UK supporter/promoter/connector for UK sports. UKAA continues to show they are completely clueless when it comes to fan engagement and how to treat the regular fans.




KSR stealing to make themselves money? Say it ain’t so! 🙀
 

colonelcat78

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why don't you come out of your safe place snow flake.

 

bkingUK

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So Jones’ position is that he can use a trademarked logo that he does not own in a business context to make money, or at least enhance his sales?

would he say the same thing is the KSR logo was used by someone on here without permission, say , on a t shirt or coffee mug ?
Interesting but also slightly different circumstance as they aren’t selling UK licensed merchandise but using logo as vehicle of promotion.

Would KSR go after me if I sold KSR shirts though? I don’t know that answer. If it was my business, not only would I not go after people for selling the trademark of media, I’d promote them doing that. Whole lot of podcasts promote that open model and make a lot of money from it through promotion.
 

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Remember that story when supposedly someone cut people in line at the concession stand @ Rupp, Matt popped off to the guy, and the guy said something back so Matt takes a pic of him and walks away? Lol dude is soft
 
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Global Havok

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They had a right to go after KSR and they should in order to protect themselves.
They didn't have to do this to protect themselves. People parroting this just don't understand trademarks. You can grant people a license to use your logo to promote your product. Plenty of places around KY that aren't UK display the UK logo.

Like I said, JMI was entirely within their rights to do this... but they didn't have to do it protect their trademark.
 
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ArtSmass

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Someone should create a website about KSR that sells advertising and use the exact KSR logo to promote it.

Then, go on the site and talk about the show every day -- both positive and negative (yes, especially mentioning the number of times RLemond says almost verbatim whatever Matt just said when asked his opinion).

If MJones gets upset about that, he's a hypocrite. If not, he's true to his word.
 
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They are well within their rights to do what they did, period.

It is dumb to go after your biggest third-party cheerleader, period.

I'm curious the age of the posters here that think ksr is uks biggest cheerleader or source of popularity.

It's actually the exact opposite. If ksr ceased to exist, uk would truck along like always. If uk ceases to exist, that crew is finished. Matt could run for mayor of corbin, ryan do late night sports updates, Shannon do strip club promos, and drew back to two keys replica in his basement.

In reality someone is doing something wrong, knowing it's wrong, yet expects special treatment.
 

SkyTalker

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And this is the voice of reason, everyone. KSR has been pushing the envelope on this since the beginning and has been benefitting when they shouldn't have been.

He loves to push and push and push and then when someone finally speaks up he says "don't take it personal" or "we're just joking" or he gets all offended like he has here and plays the victim. Typical
 

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I find it interesting that so many are defending Jones in illegally using UK's trademark. If it's no big deal, why do we even have trademark laws? It's to protect your property. In Matt's case it can debated how much it helped him and his businesses. But you can bet your bottom dollar that it has helped, otherwise he wouldn't have done it or be so upset that he got busted. And for those that say Matt wouldn't mind someone using his trademarks, I say you're crazy.
 

Emarc

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I find it interesting that so many are defending Jones in illegally using UK's trademark. If it's no big deal, why do we even have trademark laws? It's to protect your property. In Matt's case it can debated how much it helped him and his businesses. But you can bet your bottom dollar that it has helped, otherwise he wouldn't have done it or be so upset that he got busted. And for those that say Matt wouldn't mind someone using his trademarks, I say you're crazy.
imagine if they voided his press pass for noncompliance. 😲😲
 
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SmedMoley

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Didn't Matt get his start by gathering and aggregating UK info and repackaging it for consumption?
Absolutely. His association with Marc Maggard launched him. Maggard was the one with the inside info from what I gather. That and what he gleaned from various sites, like this one. Not to take anything away from Jones, as he was smart enough to steal and present all of that info. He's really parlayed that into quite a business. He's on ESPN radio a lot. He's made a great career for himself. With a dubious start, nonetheless.
 
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Kingslayer07

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I'm not sure why he's even complaining. As a lawyer, he should know that unauthorized use a registered trademark is expressly forbidden. It's as cut and dried as you can get. He should have gotten proper authorization to use it.
The thing is, if they are doing it to KSR, they need to do it for EVERYBODY. You cant just pick and choose.
 
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bkingUK

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Absolutely. His association with Marc Maggard launched him. Maggard was the one with the inside info from what I gather. That and what he gleaned from various sites, like this one. Not to take anything away from Jones, as he was smart enough to steal and present all of that info. He's really parlayed that into quite a business. He's on ESPN radio a lot. He's made a great career for himself. With a dubious start, nonetheless.
********. Getting out of recruiting nonsense was best thing Matt Jones ever did, but regardless if there was one recruitment that launched Matt Jones it was Patrick Patterson. He had nothing to do with Marc Maggard
 
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Remember that story when supposedly someone cut people in line at the concession stand @ Rupp, Matt popped off to the guy, and the guy said something back so Matt takes a pic of him and walks away? Lol dude is soft
Matt is a walking advertisement for Soy products. What a ball-less chump.
 
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SmedMoley

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********. Getting out of recruiting nonsense was best thing Matt Jones ever did, but regardless if there was one recruitment that launched Matt Jones it was Patrick Patterson. He had nothing to do with Marc Maggard
******** to your ********. You don't know what you're talking about. Honestly, you very rarely do. Early on, Maggard had the info. During the Gillispie days. Not even just with recruiting. Matt isn't into basketball recruiting news these days because he no longer gets that info for basketball. He does in football. That's the shift.
 
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bkingUK

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******** to your ********. You don't know what you're talking about. Honestly, you very rarely do. Early on, Maggard had the info. During the Gillispie days. Not even just with recruiting. Matt isn't into basketball recruiting news these days because he no longer gets that info for basketball. He does in football. That's the shift.
I followed KSR since the first months. What you’re posting simply isn’t true.