UK Needs Art Briles and Here's Why
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you don't know what you're talking about. at all. Briles was trying to protect players and didn't know whether they did something or not. the way he went about it was in accordance w school policy - it was the policy that was at issue w title IX outlines. he's not scum as you say. please be specific, what exactly was scummy?
First lets get one thing straight. Mitch didnt hire Cal. He was introduced to Cal. Cal was already hired.
I'm well aware. Guy was NOT involved with the Bassett stuff.
This was another Mitch screw up.
Guy Morriss only took our probation laden team from 2-9 to 7-5 the very next year and was one pass deflection from beating LSU and going 8-5.
He wanted raises for his staff and Mitch said no.
I'm kind of shocked that you dont know bout this.
I have a feeling Mitch would resign before being forced into that situation again.
Petrino's problems go far beyond "personal problems". He lied to his boss. He used his position to hire his mistress, a huge HR issue for any public university. He's a scumbag, but not just because he cheated on his wife (I'm guessing a lot of coaches cheat on their wives). Nice selective memory.
As for Briles, we do not know all of the information (yet). I've stated above that if we learn that he knew about the situation and aided in a cover-up, then I would not support his hiring.
As to Petrino.
I dont care if he lies to Barney.
I dont care who he hires as an admin assistant.
I dont care about his personal sex life, they could be swingers for all we know, as they are still married.
There is a bunch of smoke around Briles and this stuff is serious. If he knew he should not only be done with football but also face criminal charges.
Why should we put Petrino's behavior above the president of the united states? We elected a president twice who lied to the American people (his boss) and who never saw a skirt he didn't want to raise. Now we are about to elect his wife who knows nothing of truth or ethical behavior. This is not the 1950's. This is not the America of our fathers and grandfathers. Today's society is motivated by money and sex and power. Nice guys finish last.
HR laws? Seriously?
Come on Caveman. The dude is a total douche, no disagreement.
He's not Satan, but he would have left us high and dry as soon as he had any success here so it doesnt matter.
I think the point is that in order to get a big time coach they will most likely have a stain on their record.
Satan? While I think some here would debate the rational for hiring Satan, I never said BP was Satan. But, we are not talking about a man who simply mad a bad decision in his marriage.
And I agree he would have bolted, perhaps the very next year for UL. That would have been a good experience.
If Saban hired his girlfriend and crashed his bike how many holy rollers in Bama land would demand he be fired?
I know Petrino is not Saban, just saying that winning obviously provides higher tolerance levels - morally right or wrong doesnt matter, just seems to be a fact.
I remember it well. I was still only pointing out the fact Baylor grabbed him, now let's get Briles. It was a joke.
In the scope of football, Art would be the best hire for UK in the last 30 years. And it's not close. Will it happen, probably not but I can dream.
I'm not saying I'm comfortable with Briles yet but Petrino is a bigger turd for sure.
Every time there is a setback, a group of posters react emotionally and want to hire a new coach with no realistic chance to end up at Kentucky. First, it was Steve Spurrier. (Isn't that how we got Curry?) Then Mike Leach, Bobby Petrino, Chip Kelly. Now Art Briles. Then when it doesn't happen, that gives them their chance to complain about Barnhart. LOL! Why don't we just get it over with and hire Urban Meyer? First place, Briles would not be a good choice here. He is 60, and he left Baylor under scandal. The debate over whether Briles deserved his fate at Baylor would become fuel for the local media. Briles has spent his entire life in Texas, and has no connection to the southeast. And if he succeeded at Kentucky, he would quickly be hired away by a power program. Stoops will not be fired this year, and no amount of wishing otherwise will change that. But I am becoming more convinced that Stoops will be gone after the 2017 season, absent a major turnaround during the next 17-18 games. That turnaround can still happen, but probably not with Eliot as the defensive coordinator. If Stoops gets fired, I believe our next coach should be a younger guy with a winning record as a head coach at a program with a history of feeding successful head coaches up to P5 programs. He will need good connections in the southeast or midwest. Remember Stoops has recruited well because of good connections in Ohio. If I was MB, I would not pick an old guy with no regional connections who just got tossed out from a P5 school in a scandal. But that's me.
We are above such things say the pc addicted. They place pc above innocent until proven guilty. We lost a defensive player and student because of such absurdity.
The inmates are running the nut house.
It is relevant when you make this comment in this thread. Mitch didn't keep Morris and you said it was a screw up even though he failed miserably at Baylor right?
I feel like you are following me around like a lil creeper...?
Yes letting a coach go who had a great year like that was not a good move.
The next 3 years we went 4-8, 2-9, and 3-8.
So yes that looked entirely stupid.
Baylor was a garbage heap when Guy arrived, they had 6 straight seasons of not winning over 3 games.
But again, means absolutely nothing. You can suck on MB's nipple all day long for all I care, but I was quite privy to what was going on then, and in my opinion it was not a good decision.
so I'm following you around because I'm replying to your post? Got it.
Oh gosh do tell us your double secret inside info. We'd all like to know.
You have responded to a couple of my posts in what seems to be a snarky manner.
And now you just proved to be a smart *** for no reason.
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Except there are players who played under Briles who were found guilty and serving prison sentences.
I don't expect, or even want, a squeaky clean program. One of those that wins at a high level essentially doesn't exist. But there's quite a gulf between a choir boy coach and the stuff that went on at Baylor.
If you're really pining for a new coach, there's a pretty damn good one right in our own state. And if we don't land him, he'll go home in a couple years and wear our *** out until he retires or jumps to the NFL.
If you're really pining for a new coach, there's a pretty damn good one right in our own state. And if we don't land him, he'll go home in a couple years and wear our *** out until he retires or jumps to the NFL.
I went to Trinity and I think ppl are putting a little to much stock into Jeff brohm. Assuming that's who you're talking about.