Back in the 90s the word gay and the f-word describing gay people was used so regularly that there was a South Park episode about it being a normal part of the vocabulary. Thank god we didn’t have social media back then because that would be a disaster today.
What good does it do to punish people for things others did
there is a lot of democrat shenanigans, blackface is nothing but a smokescreen
The most disgusting part is the depicting of hanging a black man but people are focusing on black face ?? hmmmm strange.
We most definitely are, but there will always be failings of character, intellect and heart since human beings are wretched, flawed mistake prone creatures in these respects so therefore progress can always be made.
What we have now over the last few years or so is a concerted effort to sow discord out of political expediency by a certain party largely in order to regain power. This is a dangerous game as once you sow seeds of tribalism, history shows it can lead to disastrous consequences.
And then the problems are compounded by the media and internet allowing you to narrow your presentation of reality to fit a certain narrative. Take the recent Liam Neelson controversy, people become impassioned and reactionary where real beneficial dialogue could take place or they do something like witnessed in this thread where they cannot engage in fruitful dialogue without being disingenuous through mischaracterization due to the weight of that biased narrative. Who benefits from this? It's ends justify the means for the far left without regard to the future repercussions we may face. This is a playbook which has been used countless times in world history.
Listen to Kimmel's mocking of Carl Malone's speaking style in black face is CLEARLY racist. But you seem to wish to give a pass to people who you like (Hollywood). I get that you are a fanboy but lets be intellectually honest. If being photographed in black face was disqualifying for a conservative it certainly disqualifying for a liberal. You cannot logically read minds and assign racism to one while laughing off the same from another. If Kimmel can be play acting and therefore forgiven for his stunt...because he was acting....while at the same time looking at a photo from 1979 where those guys were clearly play acting as well...unless you have evidence that they actually hanged the guy. Do you have that evidence? If not Kimmel's act is as clearly reprehensible and disgusting as the 1979 UNC year book and maybe more so. Kimmel (and Fallon) did his within the 2000's. He/they should know better.
Thank you humanity is and always will be flawed deeply , the idea of legislating this out or being better than that is lunacy
Where did I condone racist by anyone left or right? When did being opposed to racism assign a leftist ideology? YOu do realize you just implied only people on the left are opposed to racism and it's fine if you are on the right. Racism is wrong regardless of ideology. The 3 morons in VA are democratic, and in my eyes, the 2 facing allegations of racism are no better or more excused than anyone else. I can't speak for the LT Gov and his sexual assault allegations. That's a different animal entirely. If what Kimmel did was in fact racist, then it is wrong and he should be reprimanded for such. However, comparing your belief that his remarks were racist based of your interpretation are substantially different than a picture of 2 guys dressed in KKK attire and another guy painted black with a noose around his neck mocking a lynching. Are you seriously not able to understand the difference?
"You cannot logically read minds and assign racism to one while laughing off the same from another." It seams like you are trying to read Kimmels mind and state exactly what he was thinking. Does it not? So 3 white guys, 2 of which were dressed in KKK attire, a 3rd painted in black with a noose around his neck, strung over a light fixture while smiling and obviously mocking lynching doesn't ring racist to you? Were you in the picture?
Racism is wrong but it’s not as bad as murder or even dui , racism is a behavior
I think that is clearly because of the charges recently against CovCath that they are a racist school because of the black-out game. Add in the Virginia fiasco. The left has laid out the PC law that blackface whether now or back then is proof of the wearer being racist. Further in this thread wearing black face is proof that you will expose your future offspring to racist conversion therapy.
Hopefully in 2019 EVERYONE even in Hollywood now understand that blackface even as "innocent comedy" is not acceptable. It should not have been acceptable in 1979 either....but that was a different time with different rules. Thankfully we all have learned and grown. But let the demagogues have fun with it. For me this gotcha stuff is disgusting on all sides.
You do realize in many instances racism has led to murder, right?
Honest question: What race are you?
It’s not acceptable but painting your face is your business I still think the fact someone did it 20years ago is less rude than farting in public
There a lot more to murder than racism pal. and none of your business ..further more racismis an emotion or behavior you cannot legislate edfectively peoples thoughts or emotions. Or how we choose to express them as long as it’s not assault murder etc....imo
I disagree. There are some nuts who think everything is wrong, but as a person of color, if I see someone dressed as a black character for Halloween or an event and they are doing it respectfully, then there is zero issue. If a white kid wants to dress as Lebron, MJ, Kobe, Cardi B or whoever that is fine. It's instances like this picture, where it is obviously done in a degrading, racially motivated, hatefully ignorant manner, that it becomes an issue for most.
I did not imply what you inferred.
Certainly the UNC photo is more disgusting because of the mock lynching. And it is considered so by both sides of the political spectrum. It also is totally unrelated to UVA and is a NCSt guy using it to make UNC look bad. It is virtue signalling and attacking your athletic opponent (unfairly IMO) but that is the world in which we live. Unless the UNC photo is proved to be some political official or a coach at UNC...then it is just dredging up stuff to harm other.
There is a lot more to rape than sex, it's still wrong regardless.
To the person who found it and posted, I cannot speak to their intentions, but regardless of rationale by them, it does not mitigate the fact that this is incredibly disturbing and racist. And a horrible stain on an institution that just dealt what a lot of public embarrassment, that fortunately for them was swept under a rug.
But that is how white lefties wield the club. They swing it as they virtue signal in order to harm their adversary. I am glad to see an actual "person of color" weigh in because I am sick and tired of virtue signalling whites tell YOU how YOU should feel about it. Its getting to the point where a white kid dressing up to play cowboys and indians is going to have his life ruined 40 years from now due to insensitivity or racism toward indigenous peoples.
On edit: I forgot to echo what I take you to be saying. CONTEXT matters.
Look, there are extremist on both sides. However, the vast majority, left or right, believe mostly as I stated. As long as it is respectful and tasteful, a far majority will demonstrate no issue with it. Just don't let it become anything other than that, because then you cross a bridge you cannot always come back from; regardless of age.
Are you offended when a legitimate issue like true "blackface used to mock or demean" is used by a political side to attack the boys of Cov Cath who painted their bodies for a black-out?
You can go to twitter to see how that innocent situation was used by demagogues to attack high school kids. That is how the legit "club" is wielded wrongly. That makes a mockery of the issue and makes it political rather than genuine. I wish more "persons of color" would tell the white folks who virtue signal in this way to shut the hell up and that YOU will let them know when YOU are offended. Otherwise it just harms the cause.
It's people throwing stones from glass houses... muddying the field, conflating the issues.
This racism and tribalism is wrong all the way around.
This racism and tribalism is wrong all the way around.
I think the kids invovled in the initial video, and moreso the black muslim brotherhood morons were all in the wrong. I would take no issue with them had they just been caught yelling **** back at the blacks muslims because they honestly deserved it. It was the tomohawk chop, belittlement attitude and overall disrespct to the native american guy that I take issue with in regards to the kids. I'm not sure I would label it racist just very disrespectful.
Know, to the issue of the blackface at their game. I was not there and don't know the full story enough to judge there. There were supposedly several racial slurs shouted at the black Clark co players in that incident, and there have been reports of similar behavior in other games. If true, then I think that is racist. If not true, then I still wonder why the need to paint yourself black to show team spirit or support, but I wouldn't necessarily label it racist.
Cov cath does have a histroy of racial and other issues though. So there is a pattern of behavior. If I'm not mistaken, I think the school was expanded around the time of desegregation to allow a larger private all mens school for white guys.
I’m shocked none have turned up in my yearbooks with every race being tortured since we are the biggest racists of them all
Partly because the straw man does no good for real dialogue. Noone, atleast so far as i recall, said the act itself wasn't racist or that they support mocking horrendous crimes against humanity like this.
Thankfully, we do not live in a culture today where these things are condoned or are occurring on a regular basis; you leftists would be well served to realise this.
Poking fun at white people, similar to Blazing Saddles. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
I would agree with that wisdom and also with the wisdom you've added to it. But what remains as a valid challenge towards an overall malfeasance is what institutional culture existed and may have continued to exist, which allowed the permanent keeping of that moment? It was published. Was the decision to do so simply on the basis of "America's Pubic Ivy" using "absurdist humor" as a means for UNC at Chapel Hill to cope with reality? What should be examined there more or at all? Individual behavior or an institution's decision?
[roll] I had forgotten about that scene. Remembered the white boys trying to sing Camptown Lady. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
My thoughts exactly, blackface isn't the real issue hanging someone who is black should be.
Over/under on pages: 7
Over/under in people posting: 10
Just like always, the extremists will have no less than 20 posts each when they actually compromise 10% of the population.
Over/under in people posting: 10
Just like always, the extremists will have no less than 20 posts each when they actually compromise 10% of the population.
I lived in a diverse, multicultural American city where I've never seen anything remotely approaching this act in my day to day life. I have lived in other American cities where I also have never been witness to an overt act of racism except on the news or like this in the distant past. I've seen innumerable acts to the contrary. I recognize that is anecdotal and it may not be your experience which I am not interested in, as you have already played your hand with me; you are simply not the type of person I am interested in having a dialogue with, right or wrong I can't take you seriously. Yes, I responded to
I don't know what you do other than clearly and unambiguously denounce it as unacceptable behavior, which is what we do do as a society as whole already as is. You can and should do something more like say the sensitivity training with the starbucks incident, but that should be whatever is best on a case by case basis, not automatically pulling out our pitchforks from the garage and taking to the streets to hunt these people down to make sure the rest of their lives are ruined because they are deserving of retribution in our righteous indignation. Absurdist humor is something that just came to mind because after world war 2 there was theatre of the absurd as the arts would reflect what we just had gone through as a coping mechanism or how Jewish people themselves have dark humor regarding their experience, not some real point I was trying to make. There really I meant more how big of idiots young frat boys are, especially going back to those binge drinking and hazing days which is incidentally another area we as a culture progressed.
I'm more concerned about the division and hatred this causes, which can have real world and dire consequences like the antifa guy recently who was shot dead when he brandished a weapon after refusing police orders to leave his daughter's school. He was going through a divorce or whatever I think and then on top of that he was holding this patriarchal oppression delusion that cost him his life in front of his daughter because he felt he was within his rights to shoot the police as a symbol of the oppressor. His delusion told him only the principle could tell him to leave the premises and ultimately this cost him his life and an innocent girl a fatherless childhood. It is tragic and unnecessary and could be minimized without all these lies and purposeful distortions that go floating around so easily.
And then it prevents us from having meaningful dialogue like say what happened with Liam Neelson. There it could have been him just as easily walking the streets of Dublin looking for a Scotsman to kill were circumstances such because the real issue was not racism, but the temporary mania induced from the rage of an horrific experience where he felt he should punish any member of group for the abhorrent actions of one its members.
Just guessing here that the few leftists remaining keeping these threads alive for as long as they regularly do have their reasons for doing so. That this subject occurs so regularly either shows the topic has legs or is a fine play to troll. I recommend avoiding such bait.
These topics have legs on the internet because they are otherwise taboo in our culture... you can't talk religion or politics in polite company because people don't know how. They think they know how to on the internet thought, that's for sure.
It used to be we had genuine liberals posting here and much better discussion, now it's just leftist trolling as you say.
Is this a large or small city?
And, honestly, if you had to check a race, would it be caucasian?
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