UNC Racist Photo Surfaces From Past

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TheBigBluebowski

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yes, so I am without deep thought.

qed

I am spending more time on my google machine, trying to wiggle my way out.

wiggle and wiggle and wiggle

but I can't escape!
I know, that''s what I have been saying to you. I am glad you are finally understanding now.


You know it's amusing that you said I am the straw man, yet somehow, you have gotten from insinuating transgender people would be offended by cross-dressers 25+ years from now, to you incorrectly associating word origins and meanings. Where will you divert the conversation to next?
 

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blame, blame blame and projection upon projection upon projection and ideology and ideology must defend!

ok, good to see you again. i'll leave it here before it's the proverbial pig wrestling for me if I haven't already.

if only you knew
 

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blame, blame blame and projection upon projection upon projection and ideology and ideology must defend!

ok, good to see you again. i'll leave it here before it's the proverbial pig wrestling for me if I haven't already.

if only you knew
You've said you've left like 5 times in the past 30 minutes? What gives and why should we expect a different result this time?
 
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that doesn't bother me, why does it bother you?

you interpret what I meant by done, how do you know I'm not done under my own interpretation of what it means to engage you?

I am done. This is done. And in the process of becoming more done.
 

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that doesn't bother me, why does it bother you?

you interpret what I meant by done, how do you know I'm not done under my own interpretation of what it means to engage you?

I am done. This is done. And in the process of becoming more done.
Well you said "done for the day". Does your day end at 11:36 am and begin again at 11:42 am? I mean, I guess that is possible. Is that how your day works and do you really only about 6 minutes between your days ending and beginning again? Seems Odd.

I guess it would maybe make more sense if you just said you were done. But that isn't what you said, now is it?

And again, how did we get from transgender being offended by cross-dressers to here Mr. Straw Man?
 
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Most of what you said is untrue. The Native-American man was permitted to be there protesting. They do it annually. He was marching and did march towards the crowd of kids, but they closed around him and the main kid stood directly in front of him when he easily could have moved a foot to the side and let him pass. He also stood there with that grin on his face knowing what he was doing and admitted so. He's even admitted he should have moved. Also, we are taught to respect our elders. Which includes allowing them to pass if need be. Then the group of kids was doing the tomahawk, jumping up and down and making Indian chants and noises. All very disrespectful . None of the tribesman yelled anything, that was the Black Muslim group. Who was also in the wrong, and as adults, should be help legally accountable for harassing kids. But again, he wasn't confronting anyone. He had a right to be there and protest. The kids closed around him and blocked his way. He was also the elder. Why does he have to respect them more than them him?

If it would have been me and you touched me, you would have had that drum and sticks surgically removed from your ***. Just like my son would if he had ever acted like that.
You are wrong on the facts. The Native American group was there to protest and do it every year, but they approached the kids, not the other way around. The Native American admitted he went to them, the kids did not come to him. Having a permit to protest does not give you the right to get in someone's personal space. I'm not sure how you justify that. They were waiting on a bus and he came to them and worked his way through the crowd of kids and stopped at this one particular kid. Again, why should he move because some random guy walks up to him. The kid did not initiate the interaction. The Adult did.The tribe did yell go back to Europe while he was beating his drum in the kids space. Those are the facts.

It says a lot about you that you turn the conversation into something threatening between you and me. But just to be clear, if anyone gets in my face while I am standing around not provoking them and I ask them to move out of my face and they don't, I will remove them one way or another. And if your son was ever disrespected like that, I would hope you teach him not to take it just because the person doing it is older than he is. Respect is earned, not given just because someone is older. I respect anyone who acts in a respectful manner. This guy did not act respectfully. Everyone with any common sense knows you don't get in someone's face that you don't know and have not had any kind of previous interaction with.

The fact that you rationalize a person getting in someone's personal space who was unprovoked, makes me question your judgement.
 

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I've seen it. The video agrees that racism is an issue. It just looks at it in a different context. I agree with much if it, particularly the part where it reiterates that racism still exist. It just questions and challenges systemic racism. That is just a type of, not all.

You either didn't watch it or you do not understand the points that were made.
 

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You are wrong on the facts. The Native American group was there to protest and do it every year, but they approached the kids, not the other way around. The Native American admitted he went to them, the kids did not come to him. Having a permit to protest does not give you the right to get in someone's personal space. I'm not sure how you justify that. They were waiting on a bus and he came to them and worked his way through the crowd of kids and stopped at this one particular kid. Again, why should he move because some random guy walks up to him. The kid did not initiate the interaction. The Adult did.The tribe did yell go back to Europe while he was beating his drum in the kids space. Those are the facts.

It says a lot about you that you turn the conversation into something threatening between you and me. But just to be clear, if anyone gets in my face while I am standing around not provoking them and I ask them to move out of my face and they don't, I will remove them one way or another. And if your son was ever disrespected like that, I would hope you teach him not to take it just because the person doing it is older than he is. Respect is earned, not given just because someone is older. I respect anyone who acts in a respectful manner. This guy did not act respectfully. Everyone with any common sense knows you don't get in someone's face that you don't know and have not had any kind of previous interaction with.

The fact that you rationalize a person getting in someone's personal space who was unprovoked, makes me question your judgement.
They were marching, they did march in the students direction, but the students closed around them, not the other way around. When you see someone marching, common sense and decency tells you to move out of their way. In no way were the marchers being disrespectful or violating any ones personal space. That is simply opinion and not factual. The kids on the other hand were very disrespectful and rude. Respect your elders. If they are marching towards you, move out of their way. If he had done that and then the elders followed, then you have a plausible issue. It's really not that hard.

The tribe never yelled go back to Europe, that is a bold face lie already disproved.

I didn't mean you personally, just anyone in the circumstance you mentioned. Good Lord, calm down and climb on down from your high horse. I doubt you would. It's easy to say that on a message board, but in reality you would walk away. We can pretend here though, it's cool .

My son would know better than to ever get into a situation like that. He is smart enough to avoid it. If they guy had followed him and actually been violating his personal space, his is smart enough to handle it respectfully without causing a scene. He is also black and knows it would be a very different perception that what the white kids got.
 
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I understood what was said before I watched it. I've understood it for years. You are capable of understanding, but it makes you uncomfortable so you will just continue to push your spurious point.
 
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They were marching, they did march in the students direction, but the students closed around them, not the other way around. When you see someone marching, common sense and decency tells you to move out of their way. In no way were the marchers being disrespectful or violating any ones personal space. That is simply opinion and not factual. The kids on the other hand were very disrespectful and rude. Respect your elders. If they are marching towards you, move out of their way. If he had done that and then the elders followed, then you have a plausible issue. It's really not that hard.

The tribe never yelled go back to Europe, that is a bold face lie already disproved.

I didn't mean you personally, just anyone in the circumstance you mentioned. Good Lord, calm down and climb on down from your high horse. I doubt you would. It's easy to say that on a message board, but in reality you would walk away. We can pretend here though, it's cool .

My son would know better than to ever get into a situation like that. He is smart enough to avoid it. If they guy had followed him and actually been violating his personal space, his is smart enough to handle it respectfully without causing a scene. He is also black and knows it would be a very different perception that what the white kids got.
They didn't march in the students direction. Never happened. The interaction between the kids and Native Americans wasn't because of their march. The Native American went to intervene between the kids and the Hebrew group yelling obscenities. From his interview, he put more blame on the kids than he did the Hebrew group yelling obscenities. So he approached the kids to try and stop them from engaging the Hebrew group. At least that was his story. It's not very plausible unless he himself is a racist, because the Hebrew group was clearly the aggressor and the kids handled the situation very well. He confronted kids that were not addressing him addressing him in any way. He admitted that. He tried to say the reason he did it was he trying to diffuse the situation. He blamed the kids more than the Hebrew group. How can you defend that position? Had he stayed with his protest group, none of that would have ever happened. But he chose to get in a kid's face when there was no need for it.
 
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If you claim I don't have a life, what does that say about you for debating with me?
It ain’t about me that’s your problem it’s about treating others nicely and not looking at one with contempt ideally.... I could give a **** about having a life in your opinion especially , wtf are you or any of us choads...?.answer.. we are nobody but let’s not make others life worse because of it please
 

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They didn't march in the students direction. Never happened. The interaction between the kids and Native Americans wasn't because of their march. The Native American went to intervene between the kids and the Hebrew group yelling obscenities. From his interview, he put more blame on the kids than he did the Hebrew group yelling obscenities. So he approached the kids to try and stop them from engaging the Hebrew group. At least that was his story. It's not very plausible unless he himself is a racist, because the Hebrew group was clearly the aggressor and the kids handled the situation very well. He confronted kids that were not addressing him addressing him in any way. He admitted that. He tried to say the reason he did it was he trying to diffuse the situation. He blamed the kids more than the Hebrew group. How can you defend that position? Had he stayed with his protest group, none of that would have ever happened. But he chose to get in a kid's face when there was no need for it.
That's not accurate either. He said initially, before the kids showed up he wasn't really bothered or offended by what the Black protesters were saying. He even said some of it was educational and had some truth to it. He said when the kids showed up some of the things became more offensive and then when the kids began doing their chants, and the situation became more aggressive, he and his group felt they should get out of middle and started marching away from the monument they were protesting at. The kids were in that direction. He did say he hoped they would distract the kids and get them away from the situation as well, but that there main goal was to get out of being in the center of the two groups, in case things escalated. When he walks that way, the main kid is in his way. That kid has even admitted that he wished he would have moved. He said he felt he had a right to be there, but looking back he felt it would have been appropriate to move out of the Native guys. As I said, I think the black guys should be getting the most heat. They were harassing kids. The kids deserve heat for being offensive to the native Americans. And the chaperones should be called out for ever thinking it was a good idea to have kids shout at grown men who are publicly harassing them. Call the cops or intervene yourself. Don't allow kids to fuel the situation.
 
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That's not accurate either. He said initially, before the kids showed up he wasn't really bothered or offended by what the Black protesters were saying. He even said some of it was educational and had some truth to it. He said when the kids showed up some of the things became more offensive and then when the kids began doing their chants, and the situation became more aggressive, he and his group felt they should get out of middle and started marching away from the monument they were protesting at. The kids were in that direction. He did say he hoped they would distract the kids and get them away from the situation as well, but that there main goal was to get out of being in the center of the two groups, in case things escalated. When he walks that way, the main kid is in his way. That kid has even admitted that he wished he would have moved. He said he felt he had a right to be there, but looking back he felt it would have been appropriate to move out of the Native guys. As I said, I think the black guys should be getting the most heat. They were harassing kids. The kids deserve heat for being offensive to the native Americans. And the chaperones should be called out for ever thinking it was a good idea to have kids shout at grown men who are publicly harassing them. Call the cops or intervene yourself. Don't allow kids to fuel the situation.
. Stop enjoying being angry stop falling for the trap
 

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It ain’t about me that’s your problem it’s about treating others nicely and not looking at one with contempt ideally.... I could give a **** about having a life in your opinion especially , wtf are you or any of us choads...?.answer.. we are nobody but let’s not make others life worse because of it please
How am I making your life worse? How the hell is a stranger on a message board having any impact on your life? And why?

How am I looking down at you with contempt ideally? All I am asking for is factual, logical discussion. Not fake or half truths.
 
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So race had nothing to do with it. That’s why dark makeup was used. Makes perfect sense.

For everybody else in this thread who’s NOT delusional like this guy, consider the wild double standards applied in this thread. It’s not hard to see why the country is splintering apart.
The country is splintered because of polititard trash like you guys. Congrats on that. People who see everything through the lens of politics and cant be rational about anything. Keep whatabouting your way through life tho.
 

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How am I making your life worse? How the hell is a stranger on a message board having any impact on your life? And why?

How am I looking down at you with contempt ideally? All I am asking for is factual, logical discussion. Not fake or half truths.
You are not but I’m saying if you carry this chip with u in life with real people
 

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I don't intend to spend my Sunday arguing with a dishonest, sanctimonious racist like you. GFY.
Because you'd rather spend time with other dishonest, sanctimonious racists in the political thread. [jumpingsmile]