UNC Racist Photo Surfaces From Past

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Yea, as I said, I don't delve into the whole conspiracy world bs.

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Yea man right wing conspiracies are born with interracial marriages in mind. You got me.

Do you hear how ideological you sound?

Re-read that post if you don’t mind because I don’t think you did.
 

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Again, that it not accurate and not what I said. I said the natives were marching in the direction of the group of kids. A: there were lots of opening and gaps among them. B: that was that direct route away from the situation.

Yes, and there is a reason he doesn't want it to escalate like he did. He got caught being very disrespectful to an elder. Not to mention veteran.

Of course, if I actually walked through you. But when I am walking and you see me, and you purposefully step in my way and don't move, then it's not my fault if I walk into you. Also, if you see someone moving to an area that you are blocking, or don't need to be, don't you feel it's polite and respectful to move? Is a light bulb going on yet?

No he wasn't he moved into his path as he approached. He was in the vicinity, but not the exact spot.

Again, your fable of what actually transpired is just simply inaccurate and poorly constructed sequence of events.

Not at all. Jumping up and down mocking a veteran and native is not respectful or right. Your poor child. I hope I never encounter them. Seems like the type I would have to bend over my knee and teach the manners your parents evidently failed to provide you.

You 2nd paragraph makes no sense. What guy with a drum was asking another guy with a drum for his drum? Why would he need another drum if he already had one? Did you see or hear the kids jumping up and down, making mocking Indian noises and tomahawk chops? And you still don't believe they weren't saying or doing offensive things? I guess you really can't make a horse drink.


Some of them are known for this, not all. Anyone can have a reasonable or thought provoking message and a horrible delivery method. Again, the obscenities and harassment did not allegedly start until the kids showed up. That doesn't indicate what they were saying before was offensive or crude. They could have been promoting the Hebrew religion and ideologies That doesn't at all indicate it was rude or offensive You are simply pushing that it was to fit you narrative. Can you provide evidence of this?

And who are you to say what should offend the native american? Wouldn't him indicating he felt it changed and became offensive and dangerous when the kids arrived insinuate there was a difference in verbiage at some point? How does that indicate him as racist or make him a bad person?

You can defend the kids all you want, fact are there is a tape that shows them being very offensive and derogatory to an Native American military veteran. Not really a good look regardless of the spin you put on it.
Here is an article for you on the subject, along with a video showing Nathan Phillips absolutely initiated the contact with the Covington Catholic kids. He has even changed his story over time. https://news.yahoo.com/nathan-phillips-lied-media-bought-221415801.html
 

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You're either very selective on what you read on the subject, or you are ignoring a lot to blame white kids. So why in an interview with the Detroit Free Press did Nathan Phillips describe how he had put himself between the beasts (Cov Cath kids) and their prey (Black Hebrews)? That description doesn't sound like what you describe.
Then, things got heated.

"They were in the process of attacking these four black individuals," Phillip said. "I was there and I was witnessing all of this ... As this kept on going on and escalating, it just got to a point where you do something or you walk away, you know? You see something that is wrong and you're faced with that choice of right or wrong. "


Phillips said some of the members of the Black Hebrew group were also acting up, "saying some harsh things" and that one member spit in the direction of the Catholic students. "So I put myself in between that, between a rock and hard place," he said.

But then, the crowd of mostly male students turned their anger towards Phillips.

"There was that moment when I realized I've put myself between beast and prey," Phillips said. "These young men were beastly and these old black individuals was their prey, and I stood in between them and so they needed their pounds of flesh and they were looking at me for that."

You mean this? How does it not sound like what I described? I personally feel the black guys were more responsible from the video as they are yelling very crude things and are adults. The kids, were more cruel to Nathan Phillips.
 
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Yea man right wing conspiracies are born with interracial marriages in mind. You got me.

Do you hear how ideological you sound?

Re-read that post if you don’t mind because I don’t think you did.
You can pick and choose certain statements to make it not appear so, but the entire post was personal beliefs and conspiracy theory verbiage. Just not my thing. I'm more into reality.
 
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Oh I am more to the right. I just said in 1995 it would be hard to make the case that I’m even conservative. The democrats left me, I didn’t leave them. Much like the poor union workers up north.
LOL, you're one of the biggest polititard sheeps on this board. That's why you cried about me going against one side in a thread where I didnt even go against a side. That why you lied and called me a progressive and cant even name one progressive policy I support. It's all about the tribal war between two trash partys with you. You're the fakest dude on this board, constantly lie, and you're such a loser you'll do anything you can to fit in with the group.
 

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Here is an article for you on the subject, along with a video showing Nathan Phillips absolutely initiated the contact with the Covington Catholic kids. He has even changed his story over time. https://news.yahoo.com/nathan-phillips-lied-media-bought-221415801.html
Seen it read them all. Facts are facts man. You can try to manipulate them all you want. He marched towards the group to kids no doubt. They converged around him, the one with the jacked up teeth blatantly stepped in and blocked his way and then they mock by pointing, laughing, jumping up and down, doing a tomahawk chop and Indian chant. You seem to always conveniently leave these facts out when discussing these "poor white child victims".

Btw, if you want credibility. Try not linking an opinion article.
 
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LOL, you're one of the biggest polititard sheeps on this board. That's why you cried about me going against one side in a thread where I didnt even go against a side. That why you lied and called me a progressive and cant even name one progressive policy I support. It's all about the tribal war between two trash partys with you. You're the fakest dude on this board, constantly lie, and you're such a loser you'll do anything you can to fit in with the group.

lol you seek so much validation you get eaten up in versions of groups on a damn message board. You’re pathetic. I’ve never lied about one thing. You have a complex. And that’s why I’ve always said, you can’t be above 5’6.

Or you have small hands.
 
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You can pick and choose certain statements to make it not appear so, but the entire post was personal beliefs and conspiracy theory verbiage. Just not my thing. I'm more into reality.

You know what man, there’s no point in arguing an ideologue. You can twist anything to bend toward your view of identity Politics for motive driven goals. You have no clue who you’re talking to yet claim I throw in positions as to appear not what? Seem racist when I am?

You are paranoid, delusional, and out of touch. And that was the goal. Try reading MX.
 

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The left moves further and further left over time and the racialism is part of that. They want to make it seem like there are millions of white supremacists running around.

They are no better than actual supremacists, however many thousands of them remain... there are millions of these leftists tho
 
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You know what man, there’s no point in arguing an ideologue. You can twist anything to bend toward your view of identity Politics for motive driven goals. You have no clue who you’re talking to yet claim I throw in positions as to appear not what? Seem racist when I am?

You are paranoid, delusional, and out of touch. And that was the goal. Try reading MX.
Ah, alas reverting back to the internet safe words and theorist jargon. Let me guess, it was Hillary Clinton, in the Lincoln room with the emails? :popcorn:
 
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You know what man, there’s no point in arguing an ideologue. You can twist anything to bend toward your view of identity Politics for motive driven goals. You have no clue who you’re talking to yet claim I throw in positions as to appear not what? Seem racist when I am?

You are paranoid, delusional, and out of touch. And that was the goal. Try reading MX.

They have to do this because they are heavily emotionally invested in their position and cannot entertain even the slightest notion that they might be wrong.

 

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They have to do this because they are heavily emotionally invested in their position and cannot entertain even the slightest notion that they might be wrong.

You are a case study like no other. It's like you can identify all of your shortcoming, but just can't quite figure out the self-awareness to internalize and apply them. Very interesting. It's like you're retarded and can comprehend the meaning of retardation, but just can't quite connect those last few dots.
 
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Reading comprehension reveals quite a bit about a person.

It's through the lense, the way they interpret what is typed not what is there but what they feel to be there.

THen to protect themselves from exposure, they resort to immature responses. I can sniff these people out from the start and don't engage them as they are not serious people.

When you know the lens of their worldview, you can understand why last resort are immature comments and straw man, a neverending doubling down in their own ignorance.

I know Donny here better than he knows himself... understand his argument better than he could ever dream of formulating it.
 
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It's through the lense, the way they interpret what is typed not what is there but what they feel to be there.

THen to protect themselves from exposure, they resort to immature responses. I can sniff these people out from the start and don't engage them as they are not serious people.

When you know the lens of their worldview, you can understand why last resort are immature comments and straw man, a neverending doubling down in their own ignorance.

I know Donny here better than he knows himself... understand his argument better than he could ever dream of formulated it.
So Strawman, how did you get from you confusing cross dressers and transgender people and stating transgender people being offended by cross-dressers 25+ years from now to hear again? See, that's where your whole argument of me being a strawman falls apart. I keep bringing back up the initial topic and you further divert and demonstrate a clear lack of understanding of what a strawman fallacy is.

So your way of not engaging is to respond? That makes total sense.

Also, your use of the ad hominem is very telling.
 
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Here he is now, nervously fumbling around his google machine looking to create something only he will deem a worthy retort.



A legend in his own mind, hopefully a full overly verbose post I can easily ignore.
 
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Here he is now, nervously fumbling around his google machine looking to create something only he will deem a worthy retort.



A legend in his own mind, hopefully a full overly verbose post I can easily ignore.
Ignoring would imply not replying. So far you haven't been able to demonstrate this ability. You keep coming right back, like moth to flame.

ad hominem much?
 
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lol you seek so much validation you get eaten up in versions of groups on a damn message board. You’re pathetic. I’ve never lied about one thing. You have a complex. And that’s why I’ve always said, you can’t be above 5’6.

Or you have small hands.
I would never seek validation from a piece of trash like you. Once again you cant point out one instance of me being "a progressive nut" because you're a liar. I would rather be 5'6 with small hands than a lying piece of trash loser with the need to fit in with the group.
 

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I would never seek validation from a piece of trash like you. Once again you cant point out one instance of me being "a progressive nut" because you're a liar. I would rather be 5'6 with small hands than a lying piece of trash loser with the need to fit in with the group.

Haha you’re so unhinged. I don’t have a group. Lol. This isn’t high school people can’t see you. Try to fit in this time.
 

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Haha you’re so unhinged. I don’t have a group. Lol. This isn’t high school people can’t see you. Try to fit in this time.
Yeah, anyone who tells the truth about yourself is unhinged. Frank, Kev69, and a few other turds is your group. They're losers trying to fit in just like you.

Did you figure out what progressive policies I hold since you called me a progressive nut? Nah, you didnt because you were lying like usual trying to fit in. You're a complete fraud.
 

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No Donny, I'm literally the only one in this whole shitpost fiasco of yours not to use ad hominem attacks. I demonstrated that you are a fool because you are one. Actually you exposed yourself as one but can't see it as occurred before. I call you Donny because you don't post anything I haven't already heard or thought before; you state the obvious like the movie character does. This all started because you took offense to my post, not the other way around, because deep down inside there is some vestiges of reason left in there to know my point was particularly poignant and salient. Then your cognitive dissonance finally will assign some sort of nefarious alterior motives to me. None of this bothers me; I'm aware people like you exist that are beholden to these bad ideas you will likely take to the grave with you. Unfortunate for you.

The sole reason I continue to engage you is in the hopes (and sprinkling of boredom) that some other people who are not strident believers in bad ideas don't get seduced by them if they happen to read your drivel, which like I said I don't need to in order to refute. I can successfully accomplish what I want here without wasting time doing such and am perfectly ok with your misinterpretation of everything I and others type and your immature behavior and whatever else, like I said I am fully aware people like you exist. You are what you hate, and you know it.
 

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No Donny, I'm literally the only one in this whole shitpost fiasco of yours not to use ad hominem attacks. I demonstrated that you are a fool because you are one. Actually you exposed yourself as one but can't see it as occurred before. I call you Donny because you don't post anything I haven't already heard or thought before; you state the obvious like the movie character does. This all started because you took offense to my post, not the other way around, because deep down inside there is some vestiges of reason left in there to know my point was particularly poignant and salient. Then your cognitive dissonance finally will assign some sort of nefarious alterior motives to me. None of this bothers me; I'm aware people like you exist that are beholden to these bad ideas you will likely take to the grave with you. Unfortunate for you.

The sole reason I continue to engage you is in the hopes (and sprinkling of boredom) that some other people who are not strident believers in bad ideas don't get seduced by them if they happen to read your drivel, which like I said I don't need to in order to refute. I can successfully accomplish what I want here without wasting time doing such and am perfectly ok with your misinterpretation of everything I and others type and your immature behavior and whatever else, like I said I am fully aware people like you exist. You are what you hate, and you know it.
Aww, someone taught you to use the thesaurus, look at you. Your post for the last 2 hours have all been ad hominem, but that is obviously a new term you just were introduced to today. It will likely talk several years for it's meaning to absorb into your vocabulary enough to actually comprehend.

How did I take offense to your post when it made no sense? Something that illogical can't really offend. You may want to look up these words before you use them. It blows the cover off your already horribly constructed facade .You demonstrated a clear confusion of the subjects you were trying to build an analogy around. I felt sorry for you, so I pointed out your error. You have been going off the rails since doing a straw man and ad hominem attacks on me ever since. It's cute, I enjoy the entertainment.

Your inferior complex is showing. I would be careful to cover that up. Your credibility you have worked so hard for is diminishing with each post if not.
 
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Seen it read them all. Facts are facts man. You can try to manipulate them all you want. He marched towards the group to kids no doubt. They converged around him, the one with the jacked up teeth blatantly stepped in and blocked his way and then they mock by pointing, laughing, jumping up and down, doing a tomahawk chop and Indian chant. You seem to always conveniently leave these facts out when discussing these "poor white child victims".

Btw, if you want credibility. Try not linking an opinion article.
Because those aren’t facts. Prove what you say then. Show me video clip where he is between the two groups and tried to get away but is blocked by kids. I want to,see that. The video clearly shows him marching between the two groups and toward the kids. They weren’t already between the two groups with him looking for an escape route. He walked between intentionally which refutes your false story that he was looking for an escape route and was blocked by the kid. That’s complete bs. The video in article I linked clearly shows you are wrong or are making up crap.
 

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Cross post from the political thread, hattip jstaff

Chapel Hill condemned the photos Wednesday with Vice Chancellor for Communications, Joel Curran, telling DailyMail.com in a statement: 'The photos found in the 1979 student yearbook are abhorrent.'

Curran continued: 'We fully and wholly condemn both the photos and the racist behavior they depict. That kind of behavior has no place on our campus now or then.'


 

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Then, things got heated.

"They were in the process of attacking these four black individuals," Phillip said. "I was there and I was witnessing all of this ... As this kept on going on and escalating, it just got to a point where you do something or you walk away, you know? You see something that is wrong and you're faced with that choice of right or wrong. "


Phillips said some of the members of the Black Hebrew group were also acting up, "saying some harsh things" and that one member spit in the direction of the Catholic students. "So I put myself in between that, between a rock and hard place," he said.

But then, the crowd of mostly male students turned their anger towards Phillips.

"There was that moment when I realized I've put myself between beast and prey," Phillips said. "These young men were beastly and these old black individuals was their prey, and I stood in between them and so they needed their pounds of flesh and they were looking at me for that."

You mean this? How does it not sound like what I described? I personally feel the black guys were more responsible from the video as they are yelling very crude things and are adults. The kids, were more cruel to Nathan Phillips.
You are proving my point. You started out saying he was trapped between the two groups and was trying to get away from the situation and was blocked by the kid. His own words that you posted dispute that. Thanks for making my point.

Show me in a video where the kids were attacking the 4 individuals from the black Hebrews. I want to see that.
 

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Because those aren’t facts. Prove what you say then. Show me video clip where he is between the two groups and tried to get away but is blocked by kids. I want to,see that. The video clearly shows him marching between the two groups and toward the kids. They weren’t already between the two groups with him looking for an escape route. He walked between intentionally which refutes your false story that he was looking for an escape route and was blocked by the kid. That’s complete bs. The video in article I linked clearly shows you are wrong or are making up crap.
Go watch the full video. Its like 2 hours. It's all there.

You can beleive what you want. I can't make you beleive otherwise. I'm just giving you the facts. You'e obviously picked a side and see no negative action on their part. You're white and are siding with the white kids. I am black and place blame on the black men most of all and then the white kids secondary for the crudeness and disrespectful behavior towards a native american veteran. I think that speaks volumes in itself.
 
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Go watch the full video. Its like 2 hours. It's all there.

You can beleive what you want. I can't make you beleive otherwise. I'm just giving you the facts. You'e obviously picked a side and see no negative action on their part. You're white and are siding with the white kids. I am black and place blame on the black men most of all and then the white kids secondary for the crudeness and disrespectful behavior towards a native american veteran. I think that speaks volumes in itself.
I have watched the video and I don’t see what you see. I don’t know what you are watching but it is something different than I am.
 

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You are proving my point. You started out saying he was trapped between the two groups and was trying to get away from the situation and was blocked by the kid. His own words that you posted dispute that. Thanks for making my point.

Show me in a video where the kids were attacking the 4 individuals from the black Hebrews. I want to see that.
How so? Please explain....

They were shouting at each other. The kids even admit they were shouting their school chant. It can't get any more proven than that. Others also claim they were also shouting more deragatory things. I don't know whether that to be true or false and have never stated it as such.
 
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Or you don't want to see it. There is a difference. Sounds like your mind is pre-conditioned to beleive 1 particular side.
I think you have described yourself. Do the kids tomahawk chop, etc. Yes. I have never debated that. My point is they were confronted and provoked by Mr. Phillips. That is pretty much proven by video.So you are seeing what you want to see.