UNC Racist Photo Surfaces From Past

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How so? Please explain....

They were shouting at each other. The kids even admit they were shouting their school chant. It can't get any more proven than that. Others also claim they were also shouting more deragatory things. I don't know whether that to be true or false and have never stated it as such.
How does the kids and Black Hebrews shouting at each other prove that Mr. Phillips was caught between the two groups and was trying to escape before it escalated? It doesn't. If that qualifies as proof in your world, then you have a very poor understanding of what proof means. His own words, that you posted, says he intentionally went between the two groups because the kids were attacking 4 guys from the Black Hebrews (which turned out to be a lie). That is what he said. That is not the story you told. You acted like he happened to be between them and was trying to escape and the kid blocked his exit. He does not say that in the words you quoted. He says he was basically protecting 4 guys from the Black Hebrews from being attacked by the kids and intentionally went into the group of kids to turn their anger on him. He is admitting that he approached and confronted the kids. He is not saying he was trying to escape and they blocked his retreat. Your original story is proven false by what you just posted.

Second, the video clearly shows the kids and the Black Hebrews with no one in between them. The Native Americans march between the two groups from the right. They didn't have to do that. They had other options that would not have led to confrontation, but they purposely chose to confront the kids by his very words that you posted.

You have proven my original point very well and have disproved what you originally argued happened.
 

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I think you have described yourself. Do the kids tomahawk chop, etc. Yes. I have never debated that. My point is they were confronted and provoked by Mr. Phillips. That is pretty much proven by video.So you are seeing what you want to see.
The only issue with that is I am blaming my own race the most. And the white kids secondary. I think the Native American was the least disrespectful of all. How does a black guy blaming black guys and white guys have a pre-conditioned belief? o_O
 
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How does the kids and Black Hebrews shouting at each other prove that Mr. Phillips was caught between the two groups and was trying to escape before it escalated? It doesn't. If that qualifies as proof in your world, then you have a very poor understanding of what proof means. His own words, that you posted, says he intentionally went between the two groups because the kids were attacking 4 guys from the Black Hebrews (which turned out to be a lie). That is what he said. That is not the story you told. You acted like he happened to be between them and was trying to escape and the kid blocked his exit. He does not say that in the words you quoted. He says he was basically protecting 4 guys from the Black Hebrews from being attacked by the kids and intentionally went into the group of kids to turn their anger on him. He is admitting that he approached and confronted the kids. He is not saying he was trying to escape and they blocked his retreat. Your original story is proven false by what you just posted.

Second, the video clearly shows the kids and the Black Hebrews with no one in between them. The Native Americans march between the two groups from the right. They didn't have to do that. They had other options that would not have led to confrontation, but they purposely chose to confront the kids by his very words that you posted.

You have proven my original point very well and have disproved what you originally argued happened.
It proves that the kids were shouting towards the 4 - 5 black guys, which is what you asked. Was it not?

He was. He admitted he was moving towards the kids to get out of between the 2 groups and hoped he could distract the kids to diffuse the situation. His own words. You're assuming he could only play detractor if he he was in between the 2 groups. That is simply not true. The best way to detract them would be to focus their attention in another direction. Which would follow logically with him wanting to go through the group to get to the other side of them. Again, you are simply stating what you want to believe happened to what factually did happen.

Where did he admit he confronted the kids? He admits to going in their direction. Which he did. Then they closed around him, which they did. Then they started being disrespectful. Kids not being disrespectful and causing an issue don't scream and yell, laugh and point, jump and down making Indian noises and doing a tomahawk chant. That alone blows that innocent white kid victim theory you have to garbage.

Again, not they did not, not to mention they had a permit ot march there. If they are permitted, why should they have to move. That sounds pretty disrespectful.
 
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The innocent kid's lawyer. Libel/slander. Got Hulk $100 million. Hope he's able to sue the totem pole off him.
Lol, yea, that would get tossed before it ever saw the light of day. He didn't post the video and never publicly named the kid. The kid was outed by people at the school and himself via the publicist his family hired. Good luck with that one!
 
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Lol, yea, that would get tossed before it ever saw the light of day. He didn't post the video and never publicly named the kid. The kid was outed by people at the school and himself via the publicist his family hired. Good luck with that one!

Innocent kid that was defamed/slander/libeled. Don't really give a fat turd about anyone's opinion. The fact they are trying to get justice against this POS is good enough for me
 

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It proves that the kids were shouting towards the 4 - 5 black guys, which is what you asked. Was it not?

He was. He admitted he was moving towards the kids to get out of between the 2 groups and hoped he could distract the kids to diffuse the situation. His own words. You're assuming he could only play detractor if he he was in between the 2 groups. That is simply not true. The best way to detract them would be to focus their attention in another direction. Which would follow logically with him wanting to go through the group to get to the other side of them. Again, you are simply stating what you want to believe happened to what factually did happen.

Where did he admit he confronted the kids? He admits to going in their direction. Which he did. Then they closed around him, which they did. Then they started being disrespectful. Kids not being disrespectful and causing an issue don't scream and yell, laugh and point, jump and down making Indian noises and doing a tomahawk chant. That alone blows that innocent white kid victim theory you have to garbage.

Again, not they did not, not to mention they had a permit ot march there. If they are permitted, why should they have to move. That sounds pretty disrespectful.
You're assuming he could only play detractor if he he was in between the 2 groups. You said he was caught between the two groups and was looking for a way out before it escalated. I'm not assuming anything. I'm saying he was not caught between the two groups. He intentionally went between them and confronted the kids, which he described very well. The video shows they were not caught between them. They purposefully went between them. That is a completely different story than you started off telling.

Have you seen video of the kids attacking 4 Black Hebrews? That is what he said he saw happening and he went in to basically protect them. His account of the events conflict with what you originally said and they are full of lies and things that did not happen. Can you show me where the kids were attacking anyone for the Black Hebrews?

You are blaming the black men because to rationalize them would make you look like a racist. However, you are going out of your way to find a reason to blame kids that were waiting for a bus and were confronted by two groups of adults. Keep in mind, not all of those kids were white. I'm not standing up for white kids. I'm standing up for all of them and the truth of what the video shows. And it doesn't show a native american caught between two groups exploding with anger and him trying to find a way to escape the turmoil. Even though he said it, it does not show the kids attacking 4 black men that he claims he was protecting. Why do you keep omitting that particular lie that he told.
 

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Again, it's not going to work out as you hope. No one is pressing charges against the native american. SORRY.

This is a civil case from what I read. Hopefully wins for the innocent kid. I hope that kid's dad finds a baseball ball and beats Nathan Phillips to a bloody pulp.
 

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They give you points on the victim hierarchy for being the village idiot? GFY too.
 

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You're assuming he could only play detractor if he he was in between the 2 groups. You said he was caught between the two groups and was looking for a way out before it escalated. I'm not assuming anything. I'm saying he was not caught between the two groups. He intentionally went between them and confronted the kids, which he described very well. The video shows they were not caught between them. They purposefully went between them. That is a completely different story than you started off telling.
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Have you seen video of the kids attacking 4 Black Hebrews? That is what he said he saw happening and he went in to basically protect them. His account of the events conflict with what you originally said and they are full of lies and things that did not happen. Can you show me where the kids were attacking anyone for the Black Hebrews?

You are blaming the black men because to rationalize them would make you look like a racist. However, you are going out of your way to find a reason to blame kids that were waiting for a bus and were confronted by two groups of adults. Keep in mind, not all of those kids were white. I'm not standing up for white kids. I'm standing up for all of them and the truth of what the video shows. And it doesn't show a native american caught between two groups exploding with anger and him trying to find a way to escape the turmoil. Even though he said it, it does not show the kids attacking 4 black men that he claims he was protecting. Why do you keep omitting that particular lie that he told.
It's the exact same story I have been saying all along. You even admitted it was true with one of statements you gave earlier. They were marching for a while before the altercation. Got caught between the two groups arguing. Felt threatened. Went to move out between the kids hoping to get out between and act as a deterrent to shouting at the black guys. The kids converged around and blocked the way. Then began targeting the poor Native American veteran. You just want to spin it out in an attempt to protect your fellow whites. You've admitted as much.

Yes. They aren't physically attacking. They are responding to the hateful things the black hebrews were shouting. See, you can tell which of us is racially motivated and blinded by prejudice based off who is actually blaming their own and holding them accountable. For you it's everyone else fault. Not the white people.

How has my story changed.? It's been the exact same all around. You keep saying this but providing no evidence of such.

Again, yes watch they video. They were verbally attacking each other. They weren't peacefully waiting on a bus as you claim. They were being verbally assaulted by the black guys and decided to shout back. They were never assaulted by the Indian guys. That is just your ludicrous narrative you want to promote. They were rude, offense and disrespectful towards a native american elder and veteran. Again, you can't spin that not matter how hard you try. It's on video.

I'm blaming black men because they were wrong. I don't assign guilt based on racial perception. I base it on fact.

Sure it does. But as you have already demonstrated. You will only see and believe what you wish. And that is white victimized youth.
 
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This is a civil case from what I read. Hopefully wins for the innocent kid. I hope that kid's dad finds a baseball ball and beats Nathan Phillips to a bloody pulp.
Where is it a civil case? Could you provide a precedent for such?

LMAO, did you see that kid. You know his dad is a huge *****. His mom has been the one handling everything. That tells me all I need to know.

This seems to have triggered you a bit.
 
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Again, it's not going to work out as you hope. No one is pressing charges against the native american. SORRY.
So are Native Americans so high on the identity politics hierarchy that they are protected from lawsuits? Asking for my Native American wife in case she wants to use her minority privilege to beat a drum in a white kid's face and lie about what happened to destroy his reputation.

Actually she thinks Phillips is a lying professional deadbeat and is embarrassed that he dishonors honorable Native Americans. Her parents think the same.
 

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So are Native Americans so high on the identity politics hierarchy that they are protected from lawsuits? Asking for my Native American wife in case she wants to use her minority privilege to beat a drum in a white kid's face and lie about what happened to destroy his reputation.

Actually she thinks Phillips is a lying professional deadbeat and is embarrassed that he dishonors honorable Native Americans. Her parents think the same.
Nah. Last I checked they can be sued or convicted. Just can't sue them for make beleive things. They have to be in violation of a law.

Seems like you have some deep opinions. Too bad opinions aren't fact.

I highly doubt it, but they are entitled to their beliefs no less. Good for them.
 
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Nah. Last I checked they can be sued or convicted. Just can't sue them for make beleive things. They have to be in violation of a law.

Seems like you have some deep opinions. Too bad opinions aren't fact.

I highly doubt it, but they are entitled to their beliefs no less. Good for them.

It doesn't matter what I think. They've got the whole thing on videotape. And it doesn't show what you want. Sorry.
 

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It's the exact same story I have been saying all along. You even admitted it was true with one of statements you gave earlier. They were marching for a while before the altercation. Got caught between the two groups arguing. Felt threatened. Went to move out between the kids hoping to get out between and act as a deterrent to shouting at the black guys. The kids converged around and blocked the way. Then began targeting the poor Native American veteran. You just want to spin it out in an attempt to protect your fellow whites. You've admitted as much.

Yes. They aren't physically attacking. They are responding to the hateful things the black hebrews were shouting. See, you can tell which of us is racially motivated and blinded by prejudice based off who is actually blaming their own and holding them accountable. For you it's everyone else fault. Not the white people.

How has my story changed.? It's been the exact same all around. You keep saying this but providing no evidence of such.

Again, yes watch they video. They were verbally attacking each other. They weren't peacefully waiting on a bus as you claim. They were being verbally assaulted by the black guys and decided to shout back. They were never assaulted by the Indian guys. That is just your ludicrous narrative you want to promote. They were rude, offense and disrespectful towards a native american elder and veteran. Again, you can't spin that not matter how hard you try. It's on video.

I'm blaming black men because they were wrong. I don't assign guilt based on racial perception. I base it on fact.

Sure it does. But as you have already demonstrated. You will only see and believe what you wish. And that is white victimized youth.
They were not caught between the two groups. The quote you put up from Mr. Phillips contradicts that story. The video contradicts that story. They marched in from the right and could very easily walked out without encountering anyone.

The kids shouted school cheers at the Black Hebrews. That is also clear from the video. Show me a video that shows otherwise. The kids did not shout insults at the Black Hebrews. If you are insinuating that Mr. Phillips didn't mean he thought the kids were going to physically attack them, that is pure speculation. But it would still be a lie. Shouting school cheers to drown out the insults from the Black Hebrews is not attacking them. Do you agree that shouting school cheers is not attacking anyone in any shape, form, or manner? If you do, then the next question is why would Mr. Phillips intervene in such a situation where the kids aren't attacking anyone but he says they are?
 

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They were not caught between the two groups. The quote you put up from Mr. Phillips contradicts that story. The video contradicts that story. They marched in from the right and could very easily walked out without encountering anyone.

The kids shouted school cheers at the Black Hebrews. That is also clear from the video. Show me a video that shows otherwise. The kids did not shout insults at the Black Hebrews. If you are insinuating that Mr. Phillips didn't mean he thought the kids were going to physically attack them, that is pure speculation. But it would still be a lie. Shouting school cheers to drown out the insults from the Black Hebrews is not attacking them. Do you agree that shouting school cheers is not attacking anyone in any shape, form, or manner? If you do, then the next question is why would Mr. Phillips intervene in such a situation where the kids aren't attacking anyone but he says they are?
Again, yes he was and no he's not contradicitng that. You repeatedly saying so without justifying how its contradicted doesn't make it true.

No they couldn't, there are only so many ways out and when they are blocked by groups of people you have to go through some. That is what they were attempting to do until the the disrespectful white kids blocked the way.

They shouldn't shout anything. They were also reported by several people present to be shouting other obceneties. Regardless, yelling at 4 grown black men who are shouting crude obscenities probably isn't the best idea.

However, my issue is with their behavior towards the elder veteran. They disrespected no matter how you spin it. Guilty, guilty, guilty. You just keep making **** up and spining a narrative to protect Whitie!
 
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Again, yes he was and no he's not contradicitng that. You repeatedly saying so without justifying how its contradicted doesn't make it true.

No they couldn't, there are only so many ways out and when they are blocked by groups of people you have to go through some. That is what they were attempting to do until the the disrespectful white kids blocked the way.


They shouldn't shout anything. They were also reported by several people present to be shouting other obceneties. Regardless, yelling at 4 grown black men who are shouting crude obscenities probably isn't the best idea.

However, my issue is with their behavior towards the elder veteran. They disrespected no matter how you spin it. Guilty, guilty, guilty. You just keep making **** up and spining a narrative to protect Whitie!
You're an intellectually dishonest troll. You're also a GD racist hypocrite. Or do you like being called "blackie"?
 

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Again, yes he was and no he's not contradicitng that. You repeatedly saying so without justifying how its contradicted doesn't make it true.

No they couldn't, there are only so many ways out and when they are blocked by groups of people you have to go through some. That is what they were attempting to do until the the disrespectful white kids blocked the way.

They shouldn't shout anything. They were also reported by several people present to be shouting other obceneties. Regardless, yelling at 4 grown black men who are shouting crude obscenities probably isn't the best idea.

However, my issue is with their behavior towards the elder veteran. They disrespected no matter how you spin it. Guilty, guilty, guilty. You just keep making **** up and spining a narrative to protect Whitie!
Not making anything up. You are now in full back pedal. What they shouted to the Black Hebrews is a very important point. Don't run from it. If they only shouted school cheers, and there is no video evidence to suggest they shouted anything other than that, then Nathan Phillips lied. Period. That is important to the credibility of everything else he says. Did you know he has done the same thing at least once before. He has approached kids and tried to get a racist response from them. This is not his first time doing this.

If he lied about what they were shouting and he called them beasts and the Black Hebrews their prey in order to emphasize how dangerous the kids were to the Black Hebrews, then his motives and anything else he says has no credibility. So what they shouted and whether or not the 4 Black Hebrews were being attacked by the beastly kids is very important to his credibility. The video clearly shows him walking up to a group of kids already standing there waiting on a bus. The steps to his right are wide open and yet he walks straight into the group of kids. Your contention that they blocked his path and that he couldn't get to where he is going is false. The video shows a very easy clear path and he chose not to take it. Instead he walks straight into a group of kids. His story is complete BS and you fell for every word of it.

To reiterate, what you quoted from Nathan Phillips does support the idea that they were caught between them unintentionally and tried to figure out a path of escape. He does not say or imply that in the quotes you put up. He tells a story where he is the hero for standing between beastly kids who are attacking their prey. If you don't realize that is completely different than your spin, I'm not sure what to tell you.

You are focusing on the kids reaction to him walking up to them. That was never anything I talked about or focused on other than to say they didn't initiate the interaction. Nathan Phillips did. If you want to say their reaction was too much, I can understand that. But none of it happens if Nathan Phillips doesn't decide to walk in the middle of them and bang his drum in someone's face. He made a bad decision that led to everything that happened afterward.
 

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Not making anything up. You are now in full back pedal. What they shouted to the Black Hebrews is a very important point. Don't run from it. If they only shouted school cheers, and there is no video evidence to suggest they shouted anything other than that, then Nathan Phillips lied. Period. That is important to the credibility of everything else he says. Did you know he has done the same thing at least once before. He has approached kids and tried to get a racist response from them. This is not his first time doing this.

If he lied about what they were shouting and he called them beasts and the Black Hebrews their prey in order to emphasize how dangerous the kids were to the Black Hebrews, then his motives and anything else he says has no credibility. So what they shouted and whether or not the 4 Black Hebrews were being attacked by the beastly kids is very important to his credibility. The video clearly shows him walking up to a group of kids already standing there waiting on a bus. The steps to his right are wide open and yet he walks straight into the group of kids. Your contention that they blocked his path and that he couldn't get to where he is going is false. The video shows a very easy clear path and he chose not to take it. Instead he walks straight into a group of kids. His story is complete BS and you fell for every word of it.

To reiterate, what you quoted from Nathan Phillips does support the idea that they were caught between them unintentionally and tried to figure out a path of escape. He does not say or imply that in the quotes you put up. He tells a story where he is the hero for standing between beastly kids who are attacking their prey. If you don't realize that is completely different than your spin, I'm not sure what to tell you.

You are focusing on the kids reaction to him walking up to them. That was never anything I talked about or focused on other than to say they didn't initiate the interaction. Nathan Phillips did. If you want to say their reaction was too much, I can understand that. But none of it happens if Nathan Phillips doesn't decide to walk in the middle of them and bang his drum in someone's face. He made a bad decision that led to everything that happened afterward.
Not at all. How am I back peddeling. My facts have been consistent.First, you don't know exactly what was said and neither does Nathan. We have the point of view of the cameras which neither capture great quality. Nathan was only able to hear things from his perspective and the guys shouting had another perspectice from which they could hear each other.

Really where?

How did he lie again? The black guys were outnumbered. He probably did feel they would be at a disadvantage numbers wise if it became physical. Again, that is logical.

Not true. The way they needed to go out was blocked, the kids were in clusters and they elected to try and go between them. The kids converged and blocked their way. Then became very hostile and disrespectful towards a native american veteran. So sad and pathetic. Nathan Phillips is such a hero.

I agree, it does support it.

Sure they are to blame, they blocked a path and mocked a native american veteran.
 
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You're an intellectually dishonest troll. You're also a GD racist hypocrite. Or do you like being called "blackie"?

The ideology must be defended at all costs, the distorted lens with which they view reality makes it very difficult for them to realize they are exactly what they rally against. They project their distortion and failings on the nefarious other, ie you who are to be blamed for what they feel. You can't reason with these people because it's not truth that matters to them, only the preservation of their worldview.

These delusions can have serious consequences like the antifa guy who was shot by police at his daughter's school. A little girl has to grow up now without a father because he was carrying these delusions around with him in an already emotionally charged situation and time for him, a totally unnecessary chip on his shoulder. Maybe had things been different he could've received psychiatric care and in time seen the invalidity of these bad ideas.
 

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another cross post, as these people come to power, as the left goes further and further left, things will only get worse for all of us

 

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You're assuming he could only play detractor if he he was in between the 2 groups. You said he was caught between the two groups and was looking for a way out before it escalated. I'm not assuming anything. I'm saying he was not caught between the two groups. He intentionally went between them and confronted the kids, which he described very well. The video shows they were not caught between them. They purposefully went between them. That is a completely different story than you started off telling.

This was obviously the case and why anyone with integrity in the media had to retract the narrative they tried to create. Any voice that did not mea culpa after the facts were known is one that you can't and shouldn't take seriously.

You still see the distortions because the ideology must survive, reality and what is plain as day to see be damned.
 

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The ideology must be defended at all costs, the distorted lens with which they view reality makes it very difficult for them to realize they are exactly what they rally against. They project their distortion and failings on the nefarious other, ie you who are to be blamed for what they feel. You can't reason with these people because it's not truth that matters to them, only the preservation of their worldview.

These delusions can have serious consequences like the antifa guy who was shot by police at his daughter's school. A little girl has to grow up now without a father because he was carrying these delusions around with him in an already emotionally charged situation and time for him, a totally unnecessary chip on his shoulder. Maybe had things been different he could've received psychiatric care and in time seen the invalidity of these bad ideas.
This was obviously the case and why anyone with integrity in the media had to retract the narrative they tried to create. Any voice that did not mea culpa after the facts were known is one that you can't and shouldn't take seriously.

You still see the distortions because the ideology must survive, reality and what is plain as day to see be damned.
His only success throughout this thread.

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Are black guys not suppose to be able to join whatever party they want or something? You do know there a a good amount of black republicans, right? That doesn't mean they don't still see racism as an issue in the country.

Again, how did you get on race from your confusion around cross-dressers and transgender. It's very agenda driven. Everyone sees right through it. Defend the narrative and agenda at all call. Straw man, ad-hominem, do whatever it takes. Hold that narrative!!!

 
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