Understanding Recruiting

engie

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Excellent article on MIRS: http://www.makeitrainsports.com/slide-view/3/

This is why everyone here needs to not freak out on every little "well-placed" piece of recruiting info that looks negative for us. Cumulatively, we turn into our own worst enemy in this regard far too often and far too easily. Desperation is not an attractive quality - ever.
 

zturner987

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If the answer to your question is, YES. Then twitter would be the worsting smelling pile of excrement. Those 17ers are some tweeting SOBs when it comes recruiting time. Ole Mark Dodson's twitter was blowing up the weekend prior to signing. Wonder if Ole MBall was tweeting out warning of NCAA violations to the Bear cubs.
 

FreeDawg

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Good find Engie

Our fans need to read this thoroughly and understand it.

This x100000. It has been shown before that they do this (CJ Johnson). MSU fans have more to be excited about right now than ever before but we will let Yancy or some OM booster make of anxious. Its unbelievable
 

Shmuley

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So this is the MState response to douche bag Logan's black bear ops?
 

AlSwearengen

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Required reading and we should as a group turn the tables on them. Earlier this year, when the bears were starting their ******** about Mullen, some of our forward thinking fans made the youtube video and they shut the hell up pretty damn quick. Maybe we need to start a few campaigns ourselves. Ammunition is plentiful.
 

cheewgumm

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I'll start. Hearing Ole Miss' D Coordinator is heading for greener pastures..possibly Tex Tech with Kingsbuy. He's a great coach, I can see why they'd want him <WINK>.
 

BiscuitEater

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Good to see in print ...

Proof positive that Ole Miss Touchdown Club and college sports blogger, Brad Logan, is a lying sack of 17'n excrement.
 

gravedigger

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Here is the answer to that.

1st........Our fanbase needs to get a grip on the difference in what is intentionally negative info and what is genuine.
2nd.......our fanbase can, and should, actively work to discredit those sources, such as that prick, indefinately over social media, so that that penalty for doing it is permanent loss of credibilty.
3rd........our coaches, after something like this has been attempted, go public with it, without names, so that it backs up the fans blanketing of social media.
4th.......and most important of all. Remember that any kid that is swayed by this romper room ******** isnt worth having.
 

Jake Wimberly

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Bravo Toms....

Well put and on point. #MIRS

You can also hear Stevens take on this matter this week on our radio show on Bulldog Sports Radio right here.. "shameless plug" last thirty minutes of the show if you wanna get right to it.

http://media.vsporto.s3.amazonaws.c...tsradio/2012-12-11-667353829-MIRS12.11BSR.mp3

 

BiscuitEater

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Can I play?**

Two current OM coaches are about to be 'named' in the NCAA report of massive recruiting violations at University of Miami. The two former U of M coaches were just two of a large group highlighted as active participants with knowledge of massive illegal benefits to current and prospective Miami football players.
Nevin Shapiro, University of Miami booster, incarcerated for his role in a $930 million Ponzi scheme, told Yahoo! Sports he provided thousands of impermissible benefits to at least 72 atheletes from 2002 through 2010. In 100 hours of jailhouse interviews during Yahoo! Sports’ 11-month investigation, the Hurricanes booster described a sustained, eight-year run of rampant NCAA rule-breaking.

Shapiro indicated that he has names of players and coaches that helped supply benefits and is ready and willing to provide even more information. At this time, the NCAA has not indicated the coaches that must 'show cause' why they should continue to be allowed to coach at the college level.
Current Ole Miss Co-Offensive Coordinator and QB Coach Dan Werner spent two terms at U of M and his last stint covered five seasons (2001-05) during the same time when Shapiro was 'alleged' to have provided hundreds of thousands of dollars of illegal benefits. While he was at Miami, Hurricanes quarterbacks threw for more than 14,500 yards and 114 touchdowns, giving balance to an offensive philosophy predicated on equality between the run and the pass.

Current Ole Miss Co-Defensive Coordinator/Cornerbacks coach Wesley McGriff, was also listed in the NCAA report. McGriff spent last year in Nashville but he spent the previous four years at Miami, where he mentored some of the ACC's top defensive backs. He coached former Hurricane All-American safety and 2009 NFL first-round draft pick Kenny Phillips for two season.

Shapiro's sworn testimony implicated both rebel coaches as willfull participants in supplying illegal benefits to entice high school players to sign with the U of M. /end**
 

gravedigger

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Damn right. That kind of info needs to be supplied to EVERY media outlet that has ANY sayso in national sports advertisement. Let me make this clear. That is ANY outlet. We need to make sure that the Sekou Smith's of the world have it to feed to their sports editors no matter where in the nation they reside or write. ESPECIALLY those markets where our opponent is recruiting one of their kids away from their area.
 

121Josey

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A mythical propoganda machine

The moral and purpose of this story is simple. One of the most important parts of a “recruiting machine” is the propaganda sector. Generating a false perception and getting a negative reaction form MSU fans is the goal. Then use our own negative feelings against us.

I match this articles' illogic and raise you below:

http://monroe360.com/view/full_stor...y-entitlement-here--belonged-to-Channing-Ward

http://blogs.clarionledger.com/um/2012/01/30/did-bo-wallace-cost-ole-miss-jeremy-liggins/

Who really has the negative perception? Do they really want to get dirty?

Example #1
*Must Watch*
http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/story/20076781/ole-miss-statement-on-jamal-woods

*SNAP*
http://www.wmctv.com/story/20134766...ts-of-alleged-hate-crime?clienttype=printable

(Student perspective)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHa_4xtH7lc

Example #2
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2012/11/15/3637334/ole-miss-football-recruiting-2012-riots
or
http://hiphopnews24-7.com/profiles/...Id=3090479:Comment:2380564&xg_source=activity

Example #3
http://blackgirlthinking.wordpress....dents-suspended-after-racist-youtube-tantrum/

Example #4
http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2008/nov/07/celebrating-black-students-called-n-word-at-ole/

Example #5
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2009/11/04/shepherd-smith-has-a-word-for-ole-miss-fans/
or
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/kkk-planning-protest-of-ole-miss-football-game.php

Example #6
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/201...p-offer-to-georgia-lb-because-of-knee-injury/

Example #7
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/...-Having-Second-Thoughts-On-Attending-Ole-Miss
or
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ls-racism-college-fooball-recruiting/1690493/

Example #8
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/nov/03/gap-exists-in-campus-reporting-of-crimes/?print=1


Honorable Mention
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-georgi...urrier-fires-another-volley-at-ole-miss/?cp=2
 

CadaverDawg

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By the way, WhereisATL.....Tell me again why it was stupid of me to start the "Freeze to Texas Tech" thread? By me acting like it was real, I had **** stirred up on twitter, Genespage, OMSpirit, and especially with the trolls on this board. Now who's the dummy, dummy?

By the way, Freeze lost out to Kingsbury because Tech said Freeze does not like Black people...take it for what it's worth***
 

State82

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Know what's missing from this thread?

Our ever-present UM trolls. Wonder why that is? There are always one or two of those Einsteins chiming in on our wayward paths. Guess this one really hit home. Good job, engie.
 

coach66

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Wow, my disdain for those bastard

Is growing. I like what I've seen on this board lately, fight fire with fire, release the 17ing hounds.
 

patdog

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Good article. But it really doesn't tell us anything we haven't known for years. The big question is, why don't we play that game too? Why do we just roll over and take it ever time?
 

FreeDawg

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On my phone so I can't copy/paste

Tweets for whatever reason, but just saw that Mr.Logan tweeted an apology to @sixpackspeak on twitter. Kissing the pinky ring of the godfather...
 

aTotal360

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But, but, but no one reads facebook, twitter, and MBs.***

Your and idiot if you don't think social media, forums, and blogs bend perception. I'm certainly not a sunshine pumper, but our uneducated fanbase is the worst at perpetuating the negative at the absolute wrong time. Ex/ We are trying to seal the deal on recruits and we CONSTANTLY start threads about shitcanning the people these kids are warming up to. And if it's not about shitcanning them, its about how terrible they are at their job.

It's 17n insane. Dumb **** like this spreads like wildfire nowadays. #17nBelieveit
 

HD6

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It's not an apology about his tweet, he apologized for not answering a question. He's still going to stick with his story that any part of this was real, I guess.
 

HueFreeze

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Freeze does not like Black people...

that my friend is rich, considering he rode one all the way to TE coach at a SEC university...
 

maroonmania

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"perpetuating the negative"....

But, but, but no one reads facebook, twitter, and MBs.***Your and idiot if you don't think social media, forums, and blogs bend perception. I'm certainly not a sunshine pumper, but our uneducated fanbase is the worst at perpetuating the negative at the absolute wrong time. Ex/ We are trying to seal the deal on recruits and we CONSTANTLY start threads about shitcanning the people these kids are warming up to. And if it's not about shitcanning them, its about how terrible they are at their job.It's 17n insane. Dumb **** like this spreads like wildfire nowadays. #17nBelieveit
sort of seems to me a lot about what Sixpack was originally created for since the Sheep board didn't allow any negativity. Reality is a good thing BUT sometimes the negativity from MSU fans can definitely be a detriment including what gets spouted on this board.