..are so agitated. It is a perfectly sound suggestion. They want protection by the law, they want the same freedoms that cars have. Why not require them to be taxed, and inspected. Are you saying unsafe bikes are ok to be on roads? That is a very stupid thing to say.
update please....the recent bike accident reminds me
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just count me and my loved ones out. I understand where you are coming from but at least when you are in a sedan you have some chance to survive the crash or<div>avoid the crash. When you are on a bike or motorcycle you are usually done. I always respect the rights of bikers but I have to admit that when I see them on busy roads</div><div>with their back to traffic (the right way) I fear for their safety.</div>
They already have protection by the law because they are citizens, driving a non-axled vehicle, obeying thelaw. Again, bikes have a right to the road. Cars pay for the privilege to share it. When you get in a car,the tag you paid for is your tax tobe able to get on the roadways with others that havebeengiven therights to use it.studleyroy said:
Inspected for what exactly? Windshield visibility?Brake lights? Turn signals? Don't be a dumbass.
missing the point that these accidents are taking place in low-traffic areas where some moron(s) would rather text on their phone than avoid killing someone.
are "taxed" because they tear up the road, and that money goes towards keeping roads up, etc. A cyclist that weighs 160-170lbs on a 20lb bike (or less) does not tear up the road....maybe over the course of 10000000 years. What a vast majority seem to be missing in this thread is that the people getting hurt are being hurt by someone who is either A) drunk B) texting C) talking on their phone and they are getting hit on roads with little traffic, not the freakin autobahn. This is stupid. It's not as if these people are just joy-riding with their family of four and out from 17ing nowhere, a pirate on a bike swoops out from a tree.
a chance when somebody screws up and for what it is worth people driving the Trace are often spending a great deal of their time and attention<div>on observing the scenery. Texting, looking at deer and turkeys, getting a hummer it's all distracted driving and bikers pay the price.</div>
It's about common sense and whether or not you want your life to depend on random people not being negligent, respecting rights, being able to see you, not losing control of their vehicle, etc.
I'm sure you all see the news and what crazy/irresponsible people there are out there. Well, those people drive cars too.
Also, what if your riding along in the bike lane and you have some sort of accident that causes you to swerve or fall into oncoming traffic, perhaps in the way of some conscientious, respectful driver? Regardless of responsibility, you get hurt.
I'm sure you all see the news and what crazy/irresponsible people there are out there. Well, those people drive cars too.
Also, what if your riding along in the bike lane and you have some sort of accident that causes you to swerve or fall into oncoming traffic, perhaps in the way of some conscientious, respectful driver? Regardless of responsibility, you get hurt.
because if anything screams "Utopian" it's a place where people don't text and drive...Jesus H. Nice input, Einstein.
you`re bitching about something that is simply not avaiable.There is no magic wand to wave and make everybody a good driver. You ride your bike...you take a chance.Get over it.
bicyclists seem to believe they are above the law the entire time they hide behind the whole "share the road" bit. they have a right to the road, correct. they also have the responsibility to follow the rules. dipshit bicyclists who choose to zoom up on the sidewalk to avoid having to stop at a red light and make absolutely no effort to signal a turn are flat out asking for what happens. those cyclists far outnumber the scant few who do follow the rules. speaking of the scant few, why is it that cyclists choose to go on a road with the least amount of shoulder? i ask this mostly because i was once a cyclist... i <span style="text-decoration: underline;">never</span> owned a car until i was 23. the entire time i was at state i spent it on a bike, that includes grocery runs. i look at some roads and see a couple cycling down it.... and there's zero shoulder, while a perfectly good road is 1 mile away with a bike lane built for side-by-side riders goes unused. seems to me those are the same drivers that would go 100 if the speed limit were 95.... spite. also, where i live, there is an awesome veloway, again, largely unused. i would have gone apeshit crazy for one of these in 1988.Seshomoru said:
you probably shouldn't have been trying to skirt through traffic on the shoulder... my wife didn't know what you were there at all since it isn't meant for travel.Dawgbite said:
absolutely irresponsible... wrt flood zones. if you knowingly live in a spot that floods every few years, you accept the result when your trailer is floating down the river.MemphisMaroonClubDog said:
the cool thing is that we've decided as a society that we will continue to assist these folks.
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You need to come visit Austin. We must be filled with dumb cyclists here because they love to ride all the major roads here.
Drivers are not going to change and distracted driving will likely get worse. Although cyclists have a right to the road, it is prudent for them to make good decisions. I have the right to go to south Jackson and count money in front of a pool hall, but it wouldn't be prudent for me to do so.
I know a guy who was severely injured after being forced off Holly Bush Road (a curvy road with no shoulder and changes in elevations). He still rides on Holly Bush. I have seen an idiot riding on the road near Foxbay while a bike trail is right there.
One advantage runners have is we can see the traffic coming at us, even with that running across the the causeway is scary business.
I know a guy who was severely injured after being forced off Holly Bush Road (a curvy road with no shoulder and changes in elevations). He still rides on Holly Bush. I have seen an idiot riding on the road near Foxbay while a bike trail is right there.
One advantage runners have is we can see the traffic coming at us, even with that running across the the causeway is scary business.
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Anything that is on a road must follow the rules. Period.
Bike, motorcycle, car, truck, semi, skateboard, whatever.
I don't care what someone is using for transportation, but if they use the road, then they MUST follow the laws.
There are speed limits on roads. That needs to be one of the things that MUST be followed. Yes it's a limit, but it's for all intents and purposes, also the speed of traffic. Traffic going 30 while a bike is going 15 is Fing unsafe for everyone!
Not long ago, I was riding my bike on a 25 mph road, and virtually nobody around. I had a guy in a pickup passing me, and almost hit me, with no opposing traffic.
In my eyes he did this on purpose.
It's not like I was out on a high traffic road.
In my eyes he did this on purpose.
It's not like I was out on a high traffic road.
that doesn't also own a car, and therefore a tag, so i'd say they are covered on their road privilege tax. it's not like they contribute a lot to road wear. inspection? i'm sure there are some idiots out there, but can't imagine anyone purposefully wanting to ride without some assurance they could stop.
if you want to argue about following traffic laws like riding on the correct side of the road, stopping at intersections and signaling, or having appropriate lighting, then those are valid arguments. tag and inspection is not.
if you want to argue about following traffic laws like riding on the correct side of the road, stopping at intersections and signaling, or having appropriate lighting, then those are valid arguments. tag and inspection is not.
i don't know where you live, but i find that hard to believe. the reality is that most cyclist do what they are supposed to do, but they barely register to us as drivers. the one's that we see are the one's that stand out, the one's that do stupid things like blow through intersections and ride the wrong way down the road.BulldogBlitz said:
Most of the roads here have that "extra" lane on the side of the road that they can ride on. I just question them riding on major roads here that I feel uncomfortable at times on in a car, much less on a bike. If you saw the aggressive driving I see every day you might ride a bike down the main roads here in an Iron Man suit.
We had an car-bike death last week here on 360, one of the three main roads that get folks north and south here in Austin. We have had several accidents like this which is a damn shame. Usually they happen in a high congestion area or on roads with higher speed limits. We have a lot of bikers that ride the roads here in Steiner Ranch because of the hills, but the speed limits are lower.
We had an car-bike death last week here on 360, one of the three main roads that get folks north and south here in Austin. We have had several accidents like this which is a damn shame. Usually they happen in a high congestion area or on roads with higher speed limits. We have a lot of bikers that ride the roads here in Steiner Ranch because of the hills, but the speed limits are lower.
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</span></div><div><font face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 12px;">If you put lights, turn signals and a horn on a golf cart (or anything with a motor); you can get a tag and legally put it on any road that doesn't have a minimum speed requirement in Mississippi. They're treated like certain scooters, or any two stroke engine driven vehicle. Bicycles aren't legally allowed on interstates in MS either.</span></font></div>
an idiot behind the wheel, you KNOW it is two different things. I was riding single file with three other riders....three lane road (center turn lane).....no oncoming traffic at about 5:30 am on a Saturday. The jerk-off comes up behind us, stomps the gas (I could hear the car downshift) and proceeds to see how close he could get to us. I was in the back and his mirror hit my arm... missed the second guy and clipped the front guy..knocking two of us to the ground. He then looks back over his shoulder and shoots us the bird for good measure as he speeds off laughing. There are just plain mean people out there and bikers make easy targets...almost like a video game. Unbelievable, I know...but true.
not bitching about anything, Einstein. I'm pointing out that the people causing this are doing so by just being dumb. I'm not trying to solve world hunger. or poverty. Let the adults discuss this matter.
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