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Mhsneer

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If you beat ER it will be on their field plain and simple.

And have beat up 2A and 3A teams. Have they even played another 1A team?

Has eastern Randolph ever won a title
It’ll be hard to beat them on their field. However, I looked at their schedule on maxpreps. Other than alamance they’ve not played anyone that would finish in the top 3 of the smc or win whc. I don’t think any of those 2a-3a teams are any better than lake Norman or Watauga IMO. Yes eastern Randolph had some studs in the early to mid 2000s. What’d y’all do with all those kids you use to have down in the flatlands 😉
 
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Wildcat10fan

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Maybe their not, but 4 out of your 5 starting lineman to me at least is significant , I've seen some SMC teams on threads say they had a bad game or lost because of one RB so I guess they're not deep in that position, maybe it's just the ole lineman in me that believes having your best linemen blocking for the skill guys and making tackles on D is just as important as having your star skill guys. Plus I believe Mitchell also simply had a bad game it happens plus I wouldn't be surprised if some were overlooking Andrews which is something you should never do. But it's been a odd year I didn't see anyone picking Hayesville Friday... Murphy beat Cherokee who beat Robbinsville who then beats Murphy...
Cherokee beat Andrews who beat Hayesville (significantly) then Cherokee loses to Hayesville...
Andrews beat Mitchell , Mtn Heritage beat Swain, Swain beat Andrews, Mitchell beat Mtn Heritage.
So I don't think anyone really knows how the playoffs will go. And I wouldn't have the foggiest who to put in ter1 or ter2
Spot on !!
 

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Mount Airy still playing sub par teams and running up scores like ma and East surry does every year , it’s just the way it is no teams in this area competive at all . I think Mount Airy is better than they have been in a couple years , but they are not on a mountain by themselves . I think they get 3rd round and one of the mountain teams takes them down . I wouldn’t take a lot of confidence in the Mount Airy posters building this team up , they are just on a high because East Surry went 2a .Lived in ma all my life , but I hope they get took out back by any team , there are about 3 mouth pieces on here from ma that love to brag , no one on their or east surry schedule to be proud of .
 
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It’ll be hard to beat them on their field. However, I looked at their schedule on maxpreps. Other than alamance they’ve not played anyone that would finish in the top 3 of the smc or win whc. I don’t think any of those 2a-3a teams are any better than lake Norman or Watauga IMO. Yes eastern Randolph had some studs in the early to mid 2000s. What’d y’all do with all those kids you use to have down in the flatlands 😉
ER schedule 3A RPI #1 Eastern Alamance
#14 Burlington Williams (both in east)
2A RPI #8 Providence Grove
#15 Southwestern Randolph
#32 Orange/blue team (see my other posts, can't type their name)
#34 Trinity
#39 Wheatmore (all teams in west)
1A RPI ain't played one yet...
Don't know how any of these teams would do in SMC or WHC for sure. Only thing certain is there would be some long trips to play conference games...
 

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I remember eastern Randolph coming to mountain heritage them flatlanders don’t like to get hit.
Listen I love Mitchell but you got the wrong program when you say ER don’t hit, especially given the old coaching regime was back. That was under the lost 8 years staff. And we have the Uwharrie Mountains right here, one of the oldest mountain chains in North America. Flatlanders, need to go more east brother.
 
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I am watching the Andrews Mitchell game. I see that Junior #61 didn't dress out.
I'm assuming he was a starter. Mitchell starts the game with this starting line.
#76-#50-#65-#52-#60-#44
So---Jr-----Sn---Jr---Jr----Jr
How many of the above are starters.

#60 goes out on Mitchells 2nd drive. So.#77 replaces him.
There's people who would know better then me like bleedpurple60 who's little brother is #60 as far as 3 I was going by I believe it was the radio announcers saying before the 2 out then #60 got hurt then someone on another thread said 4, I asked a young man who played was a starter last year who graduated if he knew and he said 3 I've believe the third could have been #63 just because I've seen him in other games and you didn't have him on your list. I just know in September their on Facebook page them talking about the team being plagued with injuries.
But who ever or how many the one thing that I noticed the most during the game was more on D line seeing a least 3 70's all sophomores playing and thinking they need to work with these younger guys more on technique getting off blocks it was like their feet were in quicksand but basically if you see a #70 something they're a soph.
But as I also said they didn't play well for whatever the reason they looked like they were sleep walking the Mtn Heritage game looked like a different team and hopefully that will be the team that goes into the playoffs, but one bad game doesn't break your season and sometimes it can even wake you up.
 
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WickedStix9

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My opinion on the west is honestly a healthy Robbinsville and Mt. Airy. Robbinsville is really good when they have all of their pieces. And they have been battle tested all year long. They are the team with the most potential. That being said, Murphy is scary good when their offense is clicking. Their defense is sub par but I do believe they have the pieces to win in a shootout if they need to. Swain is also gonna be a tough out. If they can tighten up a little on defense and try to throw the ball a tad bit more, they are dangerous. Their qb is a playmaker as well. I think Robbinsville, Swain, Murphy, Andrews, Cherokee in that order with the best chance to be the last man standing. I know Andrews has underperformed in conference play but I do look for them to upset 1 or 2 teams in the playoffs this year.
 
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Wildcat10fan

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My opinion on the west is honestly a healthy Robbinsville and Mt. Airy. Robbinsville is really good when they have all of their pieces. And they have been battle tested all year long. They are the team with the most potential. That being said, Murphy is scary good when their offense is clicking. Their defense is sub par but I do believe they have the pieces to win in a shootout if they need to. Swain is also gonna be a tough out. If they can tighten up a little on defense and try to throw the ball a tad bit more, they are dangerous. Their qb is a playmaker as well. I think Robbinsville, Swain, Murphy, Andrews, Cherokee in that order with the best chance to be the last man standing. I know Andrews has underperformed in conference play but I do look for them to upset 1 or 2 teams in the playoffs this year.
I agree with all you said but Andrews. I think they have overperformed with what they have to work with. The line is undersized but they never quit. Our 3 losses go like this
Swain by 9
Cherokee by 3
Robbinsville by 10
We like the rest of the conference has been banged up especially in the backfield. I still think Andrews can surprise a couple of teams in the playoffs but I look for them to be stronger next season. Our QB is a good athlete and makes good decisions and I look for him to make things happen as he finishes his Senior season strong next year and that will be the missing piece to the Wildcats offense.
 

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I agree with all you said but Andrews. I think they have overperformed with what they have to work with. The line is undersized but they never quit. Our 3 losses go like this
Swain by 9
Cherokee by 3
Robbinsville by 10
We like the rest of the conference has been banged up especially in the backfield. I still think Andrews can surprise a couple of teams in the playoffs but I look for them to be stronger next season. Our QB is a good athlete and makes good decisions and I look for him to make things happen as he finishes his Senior season strong next year and that will be the missing piece to the Wildcats offense.
I guess what I mean is that Andrews hasn’t got the wins that I thought they would have got this year. They start 5-0 with a win over Mitchell and are 1-3 in conference play. They should have beat Swain and Cherokee. They should be 3-1 In Conference I believe.
 

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It’ll be hard to beat them on their field. However, I looked at their schedule on maxpreps. Other than alamance they’ve not played anyone that would finish in the top 3 of the smc or win whc. I don’t think any of those 2a-3a teams are any better than lake Norman or Watauga IMO. Yes eastern Randolph had some studs in the early to mid 2000s. What’d y’all do with all those kids you use to have down in the flatlands 😉
Well a few went to Providence Grove when it was opened, dividing student enrollment almost completely in half. Since then football has been kind of hit or miss for both in 2A/2AA ranks. ER almost always in playoffs since occasionally making a run. Few years back had a nice run, baby boy's junior year, ended by a frigid night spent in Lincolnton. Last spring did pretty well against a Clinton team.
Last couple of years things have been looking up a little...
But won't really know until they get in 1A playoffs and play...
 

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My opinion on the west is honestly a healthy Robbinsville and Mt. Airy. Robbinsville is really good when they have all of their pieces. And they have been battle tested all year long. They are the team with the most potential. That being said, Murphy is scary good when their offense is clicking. Their defense is sub par but I do believe they have the pieces to win in a shootout if they need to. Swain is also gonna be a tough out. If they can tighten up a little on defense and try to throw the ball a tad bit more, they are dangerous. Their qb is a playmaker as well. I think Robbinsville, Swain, Murphy, Andrews, Cherokee in that order with the best chance to be the last man standing. I know Andrews has underperformed in conference play but I do look for them to upset 1 or 2 teams in the playoffs this year.
I hope you are right..BUT I do not see anything close to a State Championship team or a Regional Championship team on Robbinsville's sidelines. It takes an exceptional team with some luck to win a Championship. It takes leaders, exceptional line play,exceptional qb play and a few headhunters. Do we have that? For comparison 2019 and 2020 were Championship quality teams. How would this team do going up against the 2019 or 2020 Robbinsville team.? The 19 and 20 teams are several, if not more, touchdowns better. Now can they come together for that once in a lifetime game? Can they gel at the right time kinda like Murphy did last year? Possibly but it would be rare.
 

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I hope you are right..BUT I do not see anything close to a State Championship team or a Regional Championship team on Robbinsville's sidelines. It takes an exceptional team with some luck to win a Championship. It takes leaders, exceptional line play,exceptional qb play and a few headhunters. Do we have that? For comparison 2019 and 2020 were Championship quality teams. How would this team do going up against the 2019 or 2020 Robbinsville team.? The 19 and 20 teams are several, if not more, touchdowns better. Now can they come together for that once in a lifetime game? Can they gel at the right time kinda like Murphy did last year? Possibly but it would be rare.
I think you’re selling Robbinsville short. I think you have all year. They just beat a Murphy team and a good Andrews team. We didn’t have our running back against Murphy or arguably the 2nd or 3rd best player on defense in brooms. Collins>Gross, Adams and Williams> Hooper and Williams, 2020line> 2021 line, 2021 WRs > 2020 WRs, 2020D and 2021D are about equal I would say. Line play will need to improve. But we also have some jv players that are great athletes that could come into play if we need them to. I’m not saying we win State but stranger things have happened.
 
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I guess what I mean is that Andrews hasn’t got the wins that I thought they would have got this year. They start 5-0 with a win over Mitchell and are 1-3 in conference play. They should have beat Swain and Cherokee. They should be 3-1 In Conference I believe.
You’re right they could have but them old nagging injuries to our two backs took a toll. I can only hope that we get some what healed up before the playoffs. Having said that we have Murphy Friday night LOL. I hope that we practice more on passing this week. I would love to see more quick slants and wheel routes, some safe short passes to build up the QB’s confidence. He actually has a strong arm but sometimes he puts to much on it. Keeping my fingers crossed to end the season with at least one playoff win
 
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Andrews had 4 turnovers and Martin barely got any carries. I watched the game, Andrews should've won, they were the better team
We were inside the 5 twice, once on the 6inch line and two other times inside the red zone and didn’t score. We had our chance but when you don’t have Martin it’s a up hill battle. We beat Cherokee in every stat and got a interference call that was so bogus that even the Cherokee announcers didn’t see anything. That set up Cherokee first score. No making excuses at all, I’ve not been on here tooting our horn all season nor has any other Wildcat fan but our 3 losses were winnable. Playing in the SMC will have us battle tested and hopefully we get healed up
 
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Everyone knows you never count out an SMC team in November. Even if they don't beat you, they can keep you from winning the next week.
Mt Airy knows this all to well. 2009 robbinsville sent the bears to the state championship all beat up, then a few years back a swain team came to town and took out several key players including Donovan green . Bears played East Surry the next week with half their starters out in what I still think was the weakest western playoff bracket in years. It don’t matter who’s talking smack on here or thumping that chest I can assure you that when the brackets come out next weekend that there will be a few people nervous when they see any of those smc teams on there side .
 
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WickedStix9

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Mt Airy knows this all to well. 2009 robbinsville sent you the bears to the state championship all beat up, then a few years back a swain team came to town and took out several key players including Donovan green . Bears played East Surry the next week with have their starters out in what I still think was the weakest western playoff bracket in years. It don’t matter who’s talking smack on here or thumping that chest I can assure you that when the brackets come out next weekend that there will be a few people nervous when they see any of those smc teams on there side .
Couldn’t have said it better myself
 

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It’ll be hard to beat them on their field. However, I looked at their schedule on maxpreps. Other than alamance they’ve not played anyone that would finish in the top 3 of the smc or win whc. I don’t think any of those 2a-3a teams are any better than lake Norman or Watauga IMO. Yes eastern Randolph had some studs in the early to mid 2000s. What’d y’all do with all those kids you use to have down in the flatlands 😉
I think you are greatly underestimating Eastern Alamance and the ER schedule especially PG, SWR. Even Asheboro is loaded with talent but the wheels have fallen off as expected. Much of the enrollment is at PG. ER is like most small communities in that there are limited jobs in the small towns/communities that make it up and a lot of it is rural.
 
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Mhsneer

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I think you are greatly underestimating Eastern Alamance and the ER schedule especially PG, SWR. Even Asheboro is loaded with talent but the wheels have fallen off as expected. Much of the enrollment is at PG. ER is like most small communities in that there are limited jobs in the small towns/communities that make it up and a lot of it is rural.
Er is always good. Just wondering how they’re 1 a. Guess it’s like wrh
 

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I just recently moved to asheboro in March of this year from Thomasville,and I’ve been out exploring my new surroundings and trust me all but the city of asheboro in Randolph co is very rural with beautiful hilly country and ER is in the middle of nowhere really,I just recently October 17 got married right across the road from there
 

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Er is always good. Just wondering how they’re 1 a. Guess it’s like wrh
School was split up over a decade ago, Uwharrie charter opened in Asheboro, just no real growth in the area. Small town, now 640 students or so. Don’t really see it going back up. Personally I extremely upset at the NCHSAA for taking away the subdivided playoffs. And it’s nothing to do with ER. I just think it was great right extra communities getting to enjoy something special, and it shook out the numbers more evenly. Plus the NCHSAA did it purely out of laziness but pinned on the AD’s and Principals
 
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640?

That's huge compared to the SMC.

Imagine ER with 640 having to compete with school with over 1200 kids to win a title.
That's basically what Robbinsville has to do now with these bigger schools in 1a.
I'm not complaining, I just feel like some people don't realize the Gap.
Robbinsville WON'T be able to overcome it very often.
Basic math.
 

theKidd#12

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640?

That's huge compared to the SMC.

Imagine ER with 640 having to compete with school with over 1200 kids to win a title.
That's basically what Robbinsville has to do now with these bigger schools in 1a.
I'm not complaining, I just feel like some people don't realize the Gap.
Robbinsville WON'T be able to overcome it very often.
Basic math.
Similar to gap ER had in 2A.
Understand completely.
 

Griddie

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640?

That's huge compared to the SMC.

Imagine ER with 640 having to compete with school with over 1200 kids to win a title.
That's basically what Robbinsville has to do now with these bigger schools in 1a.
I'm not complaining, I just feel like some people don't realize the Gap.
Robbinsville WON'T be able to overcome it very often.
Basic math.
Little misleading it has a good size hispanic enrollment that they only get a few players from. Of course many schools are like that. But the NCHSAA should correct their mistake and go back to subdividing even if it’s only in the 1A and 4A which has the biggest disparities

Disagree the top SMC teams can compete with anyone. They live and breathe football. That’s why they have the programs. Plus in other parts of the state there are a lot more things to do for kids. And football simply doesn’t mean as much. Simple as that