UPenn will erase Lia Thomas from its history books

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615dawg

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The University of Pennsylvania will formally apologize for allowing Will (Lia) Thomas to compete as female.

They will also restore all school records by female athletes that Thomas broke.

 

johnson86-1

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Common sense
Yup. It's wild how education has changed. In the past, the idea that men don't generally have a physical advantage over women in sports would been considered an idea so dumb you'd have to have a pHd to believe it. Higher education has now gotten so efficient that you can now believe something that dumb with just a bachelors degree. I guess that's progress of a sort...
 

onewoof

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Why in the world would a college age trans woman (biological male) have testosterone levels too high to compete against biologically born college age women with levels in line with all other women?

Olympics don't allow that anymore, seems obvious they set the standard on this.

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Bullldawg78

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That's what I'm 17ing talking about, it's about time as a father whose daughter aspires to playing D1 soccer. It makes sense you can grow long hair you can cut off and make inflate parts but a man is a man and a woman is a woman!
 
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MStateU

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What about the girls that had their moment stolen of winning a college swim meet? As someone who has a house full of girls that compete in sports I can’t imagine the heartbreak all for a virtue signal.

Think if one of your kids won second in rec ball two years ago and someone just today said we are sorry. We missed something. Y’all won first….years ago. Who tf cares at this point. You robbed my kid and we don’t get that celebration together. Now imagine if they had spent a lifetime training for one moment and it was stolen by a 17’ing idiot.

Sorry. I’m done now.
 

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ALL those girls trained their whole life and then got their moment stolen. Over nearly every sport possible. Imagine watching a 17 year old boy kicking your daughters a$$ in wrestling or martial arts. It's a wonder some dad, who also was footing the bill, attending competitions and hauling his little angel to practices and games, hasn't lost it and beat the teeth out of some idiots head.
 

WranglerofDawgs

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Good. Shouldn't have been putting up with that nonsense from the get go. I have no idea how it's not logical that someone born a male, who's physically leaps and bounds bigger/stronger/faster than his competitors shouldn't be in the same thing. It's just pure delusion.

If you want to dress up like a cat and prance around the house, that's fine, but do it on your own time, and don't expect not to be made fun of. Things like this don't have anything to do with "being ones true self," it's just a charade for attention that comes from a pure victim mentality of "poor, pitiful me."

How did none of the dudes on the men's team not attempt to straighten that out ahead of time? That's also puzzling to me. It ain't all of them (so don't get offended if you've got a kid in that range), but this group of kids/adults age 15-24 right now are going to be in a lot of textbooks one day (or whatever they use). Mine are younger, and they are interested in normal things, like being outside, shooting bb guns, playing golf, fishing, etc., etc. I have a niece and nephew who grew up in Seattle, and man, those kids are screwed.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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Why in the world would a college age trans woman (biological male) have testosterone levels too high to compete against biologically born college age women with levels in line with all other women?

Olympics don't allow that anymore, seems obvious they set the standard on this.

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I think most have just bowing to what they thought people want, trying to be WOKE all that ****.
 
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jethreauxdawg

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90% ? Did your Congressmen not get the memo ?

"The House passed a measure to restrict transgender students from playing on women’s sports teams on a 218-206 vote Tuesday, with two Democrats joining Republicans to support the bill and one voting present."
Go ahead and file that under “things you won’t get an answer to”
 
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QuaoarsKing

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90% ? Did your Congressmen not get the memo ?

"The House passed a measure to restrict transgender students from playing on women’s sports teams on a 218-206 vote Tuesday, with two Democrats joining Republicans to support the bill and one voting present."
Not sure what bill you're talking about (so convenient that you just pasted a single sentence and no link, isn't it?) and what else was contained in the bill, but I am very confident that if you polled Democratic voters and asked "If you knew that it would have flipped the 2024 election from Trump to Harris, would you retroactively support banning Lia Thomas from competing as a woman?" that you would get a large majority saying yes, including from those who aren't sports fans and don't really care about swimming and might have otherwise not objected to her competing.

There is more passion and vitriol on this thread in just a few hours than we've seen on any other political topic in years. It's pretty clear to me and others that I've talked to on both sides of the aisle that this issue swung the election, and no one I've talked to think it was worth it. Harris herself never even campaigned on the issue, but the party was undeniably tainted by the association.
 

85Bears

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Not sure what bill you're talking about (so convenient that you just pasted a single sentence and no link, isn't it?) and what else was contained in the bill, but I am very confident that if you polled Democratic voters and asked "If you knew that it would have flipped the 2024 election from Trump to Harris, would you retroactively support banning Lia Thomas from competing as a woman?" that you would get a large majority saying yes, including from those who aren't sports fans and don't really care about swimming and might have otherwise not objected to her competing.

There is more passion and vitriol on this thread in just a few hours than we've seen on any other political topic in years. It's pretty clear to me and others that I've talked to on both sides of the aisle that this issue swung the election, and no one I've talked to think it was worth it. Harris herself never even campaigned on the issue, but the party was undeniably tainted by the association.
I don’t think this single issue decided the election

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QuaoarsKing

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Go ahead and file that under “things you won’t get an answer to”
What a bizarre comment to make. Agree with me or not, I think it's well established that I take every bait and try to get the last word.
 
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Harris herself never even campaigned on the issue, but the party was undeniably tainted by the association.
She didn't have to and it's a 70-30 issue against allowing men who self-identify as women to compete in women's sports. It's obvious where Dem leaders stand. They support it and Harris's past statements seem pretty clear that she thinks this is a civil rights issue.
 

QuaoarsKing

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She didn't have to and it's a 70-30 issue against allowing men who self-identify as women to compete in women's sports. It's obvious where Dem leaders stand. They support it and Harris's past statements seem pretty clear that she thinks this is a civil rights issue.
Our likely 2028 nominee Gavin Newsom (God help us) is part of the 70. If he gets beat in the primary, whoever beats him probably will too.

Like most Democrats, I support all forms of LGBT equality, but this is one area where it just doesn't work, and it's not worth losing a single election over, much less the most important one.
 

The Cooterpoot

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If the democrats got off the crazy tranny train and ridiculous social issue agenda and border issues and economic issues, they could win with heath care and education lol
 

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ALL those girls trained their whole life and then got their moment stolen. Over nearly every sport possible. Imagine watching a 17 year old boy kicking your daughters a$$ in wrestling or martial arts. It's a wonder some dad, who also was footing the bill, attending competitions and hauling his little angel to practices and games, hasn't lost it and beat the teeth out of some idiots head.
I will never understand why any woman wouldn’t just refuse to competent a male trans. Thus could have been ended before it ever began. Glad to see some common sense is starting to be applied to this. But it’s a damn shame how many women have been robbed of what they’ve worked so hard for.
 

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Our likely 2028 nominee Gavin Newsom (God help us) is part of the 70. If he gets beat in the primary, whoever beats him probably will too.

Like most Democrats, I support all forms of LGBT equality, but this is one area where it just doesn't work, and it's not worth losing a single election over, much less the most important one.
He's one and that's because he's paying attention. Who else? It shouldn't be hard. The recent Supreme Court case exposed the lies of transactivists regarding gender affirming care (there's little to no evidence that permanently disfiguring bodies and pumping kids with potent hormones that often leave them sterile and unable to experience an orgasm is actually affirming or helpful). The claims of transgenderism simply aren't true and Dems have an opportunity to support science. BTW, LGBT is an unstable category and doesn't really describe anyone. Maybe just tell others to treat people who are different with tolerance and some respect instead of telling Americans that biological science can't distinguish between men and women.
 
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As an independent who thinks both sides are awful, i continue to find it astounding how the Democratic Party as a whole just can’t read the tea leaves on this one
Nope and they're going double or nothing on a lot of the issues that cost them the election to begin with. I hope that trend continues. The newest rock star of the party is the socialist NYC mayoral candidate.
 

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- biological males not playing with biological females in HS or college makes sense. Keeping that approach as how it's determined who plays with whom eliminates 99.5% of issues.
It sucks if you identify differently, but someone always loses in a contentious issue.

- the amount of vitriol, threats of violence, pearl clutching, and vilifying has been disgusting. Adults acting worse than children is disappointing. Outrage politics continue to dominate headlines and social commentary.

- the weaponization of threatening to claim someone is transphobic if they don't support trans athletes competing in the category they identify is disappointing. I have been called transphobic.

- how an issue that is objectively so small, turned into something so out of control for both sides, is really interesting and sad.

- it is amazing how so many people who proudly declare they don't give a 17 about girls and women's sports will passionately defend title9 and claim girls sports must be protected.
It's actually laughable.



To be clear, I coach girls sports and have never supported bring biological males onto the teams I have coached.
 
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