They had a LOT of choices. and they chose here. Stupidity on their part.She is an excellent student, not just anyone would even be considered for valedictorian.
They had a LOT of choices. and they chose here. Stupidity on their part.She is an excellent student, not just anyone would even be considered for valedictorian.
Too many people on this thread are too openly comfortable with their Islamophobia and anti-brownness.
"The valedictorian and salutatorian honors are determined by a combination of grade point average, involvement in the university and an interview process. This year 236 students were eligible to receive the honors at USC."She is an excellent student, not just anyone would even be considered for valedictorian.
Too many people on this thread are too openly comfortable with their Islamophobia and anti-brownness.
Comparing abortion rights to beating a woman to death in public for exposing her face?What's your point? There are people in every religion that openly express views like this. Here in the US, men are openly espousing Christianity are actively working to take away a woman's right to choose and otherwise subjugate them relative to men.
Here is the problem, why do we care about Muslims if we have .6%. Because we get sucked in to this middle east drama. They love to make the US the bad guy. We are not the bad guy, Saudia Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar all these Muslim countries with endless riches who hoard it for themselves are the bad guys. Those are the countries that should be under attack, its their religion, , but the US is the ultimate enabler. We get suckered into being the target. We need to walk away from the middle east and never look back. We don't need the oil, we can do fine without it. We know that by now. Close every base and embassy and end this misery.@EdtheConquerer17
CORRECTION:
The MANY thinking people, who know and understand World History, more importantly (in this case) Middle East History…
Are NOT islamophobic, they realize Islam and western society are NOT EQUAL and defiantly NOT capable of living peaceable, with each other.
1000s of years of World History and Middle Eastern History, support this opinion.
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What happens to society’s as the Muslim population grows in percentage of the total?
In the book, “Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat” by Dr. Peter Hammond
He explores the topic of the impact that an increasing Muslim population has on that society. The lists below illustrate the Muslim population status of countries around the world, and exactly what changes to the societies can be expected according to Hammond.
The book as well as the author are controversial, but the topic is definitely something that needs to be explored and understood.
From the book:
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
This is happening in:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for
Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) underSharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%
After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizyah Tax, (a tax placed on infidels) such as in:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%
Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
Again, we are NOT islamophobic, we realize Islam and western society are NOT EQUAL and defiantly NOT capable of living peaceable, with each other.
World History and Middle Eastern History proves this.
Convince me, I’m wrong.
I agree with the tone of this. Goes a bit too far, but I agree with the overall conceptHere is the problem, why do we care about Muslims if we have .6%. Because we get sucked in to this middle east drama. They love to make the US the bad guy. We are not the bad guy, Saudia Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar all these Muslim countries with endless riches who hoard it for themselves are the bad guys. Those are the countries that should be under attack, its their religion, , but the US is the ultimate enabler. We get suckered into being the target. We need to walk away from the middle east and never look back. We don't need the oil, we can do fine without it. We know that by now. Close every base and embassy and end this misery.
Is it a phobia to be Leary of a religion which produces people who will fly aircraft into a sky scraper? Or behead people on a YouTube video. Who's Koran gives permission to rape and kill non Muslims.Too many people on this thread are too openly comfortable with their Islamophobia and anti-brownness.
They wanted to make a statement...until it blew up in their faces. That's what being woke will get you.Crazy times, indeed; like to make sure to select a speaker who hates America!
Someone that if given the button to drop a nuclear bomb on Israel wouldn’t hesitate has the same mindset as a DahmerNot at all. Do you regret comparing a 21 year old, obviously brilliant college student, to a mass murdering cannibal?
No kidding. At least some California Republicans are trying to do something about it (though even if it passes, it’s nowhere near enough). We’ll see how far it gets:one thing for sure, America is done....
how can protestors block the main North South artery in bay area for 4 hours, I would have pushed these pos scum off the bridge for an In and Out burger....
Liberals are the bane of society....violence is coming to America that has not been seen since the 1800's, count on it
That’s quite a stretch.Someone that if given the button to drop a nuclear bomb on Israel wouldn’t hesitate has the same mindset as a Dahmer
You are making one big assumption that is not true. You assume these are just innocent by-standers.That’s quite a stretch.
Does anyone know if this young lady is even Palestinian?
I think I’m starting to understand why and how she was chosen, out of all these other candidates. Veebs @uscvball is absolutely correct. It doesn’t pass the smell test. But I think I understand what they were trying to do. There have been several other graduation ceremonies disrupted by Pro- Palestinian protesters. To the point where some of them just gave up.
I think USC was trying to throw the Pro Palestine contingent at USC a bone, as simple as that. It was a clumsy and not very well thought out attempt at ” can’t we all just get along for a few hours?”
I think it could have worked too, but not without some kind of detente reached between the two groups. Which, in this hyper-enflamed atmosphere was probably impossible.
My views on this situation are fairly simple, and haven’t really changed in 50 years. The ONLY way there will ever be peace in this region is a Two State solution.
I 100 million percent support Israel’s right to exist. That is non negotiable. I also believe the Palestinians have the right to have their own state and be self governing.
Unfortunately there are people on both sides of issue who aren’t having it.
I also think it is quite acceptable to be equally appalled at the atrocities perpetrated on Oct 7th by these Hamas psychopaths and the suffering, death and destruction brought on by Israel’s justified but monstrously heavy handed reaction. How many Palestinian deaths will be appropriate? What’s it at now? 30,000? With no end in sight. I really want to know the answer. How many?
As Bob Marley said in his song Natural Mystic
This could be the first trumpet
Might as well be the last
Many more will have to suffer
Many more will have to die
Don't ask me why
She is a pro-Palestinian Muslim. I believe her parents came here from Afghanistan.That’s quite a stretch.
Does anyone know if this young lady is even Palestinian?
I think I’m starting to understand why and how she was chosen, out of all these other candidates. Veebs @uscvball is absolutely correct. It doesn’t pass the smell test. But I think I understand what they were trying to do. There have been several other graduation ceremonies disrupted by Pro- Palestinian protesters. To the point where some of them just gave up.
I think USC was trying to throw the Pro Palestine contingent at USC a bone, as simple as that. It was a clumsy and not very well thought out attempt at ” can’t we all just get along for a few hours?”
I think it could have worked too, but not without some kind of detente reached between the two groups. Which, in this hyper-enflamed atmosphere was probably impossible.
So, 100,000? 30,000 babies? When does it become a Genocide? Or is that the goal?You are making one big assumption that is not true. You assume these are just innocent by-standers.
The vast majority of the Palestine people are the enemy of Israel. They overwhelmingly support Hamas.
Why is this any different than any other war that has ever happened?
So, the answer is: As many as it takes to get the job done.
Unlike any other war in history, one side warns the other side and provides corridors to safety.
When have you ever seen that on this scale?
The U.S. did it in Vietnam, but not on a scale like this.
Do you expect her to be an anti Palestinian Muslim? I know they exist, but almost never in the context of being Pro Israel. In fact usually quite the opposite.She is a pro-Palestinian Muslim. I believe her parents came here from Afghanistan.
Correct, the détente would have been unsuccessful because tension on college campuses, which has gone mostly unchecked by university administrations, has been going on since October 8th. Some Jewish students at USC haven't felt safe for months.
"My main point of contention is the fact that the university would select somebody who is so outspoken on such a contentious and incendiary and polarizing issue right now," senior Mary Rayant said.
Rayant, who is Jewish, said he wants USC to apologize for the selection. He also wrote Tabassum a letter after the announcement, hoping to have a conversation.
"To try to give her a perspective, I believe she may be lacking because it is such a highly polarized and politicized issue," he said.
Senior Sabrina Jahan, who is also Jewish, said she has received threats, harassed and received backlash after USC's decision. "We wouldn't want to give this platform and the highest honor for our university to someone who not only defies the university's values and fails to exemplify those values but actively promotes that kind of hate speech," she said."
Jahan added that she feels less safe at USC.
"Personally, I do not feel as safe coming to school every day as I used to," she said."
The students at USC who participated yesterday in a protest to have Asna speak, were told to wear hoodies and facemasks. Why? I am both dumbfounded and not, at the decision-making by what are supposed to be intelligent, thoughtful, advanced thinkers in the USC administration and in particular, Guzman. He has now basically tainted Commencement for EVERYONE. He's new but I'd be good with it if he resigned or was fired.
Anti Palestinian Arabs: Jordan, Syria, EgyptDo you expect her to be an anti Palestinian Muslim? I know they exist, but almost never in the context of being Pro Israel. In fact usually quite the opposite.
Agree on Guzman, I don’t see how he can survive.
I personally don't expect her to be anything other than what she is. I only wrote that as a form of identification, not a judgement.Do you expect her to be an anti Palestinian Muslim? I know they exist, but almost never in the context of being Pro Israel. In fact usually quite the opposite.
Agree on Guzman, I don’t see how he can survive.
Egypt did not build that very impressive wall to keep out Israeli's.I personally don't expect her to be anything other than what she is. I only wrote that as a form of identification, not a judgement.
There are however, plenty of Muslims who are not pro-Palestinian. There are Arabs who are both Christian and some who are pro-Israel. There are Iranians who are Christian and some, Jewish.
Arab states have not allowed Palestinians to resettle in their territory. "Noteworthy in this entire conflict since Oct. 7 has been the lack of reaction or response from the Arab world. Saudi Arabia continues to hold the door open for a peace agreement with Israel. The UAE, Morocco and Bahrain didn’t even withdraw ambassadors. Jordan did, but of course with about half of its population being Palestinian, Jordan has a particular problem. That lack of reaction I think is very telling. If you needed another example that Arab states are not viscerally concerned about the Palestinians and their fate, this would be it."
What did Lebanon do in 1975 to Palestinians in East Beirut? In 1985, troops backed by Syria and Iran destroyed Palestinian camps for 3 years, killing an untold amount.
The fact that conflict is now being framed solely as Israel vs Palestine is head-scratching as pretty much the entire Middle East has tried to destroy Palestinians but it's only now a problem because it's Israel?
There are not a lot of Jews who are anti Zionist. There are some. They generally are Ultra Orthodox who believe that God's plan should not be interfered with by men. (In no way are these folks antisemitic, they are hyper Jewish).They’re a lot of Jewish people in the diaspora and in Israel itself who are also Anti-Zionist. That is such a loaded term nowadays.
i‘ll be honest, I never heard of her before this thread. Seems like there will be protests either way.
Let me ask you this, is it her mere presence that is the issue, or do they think she‘s going to turn the speech into some kind of political diatribe. Because technically, it doesn’t have to be that because it really has nothing to do with politics. It’s about celebrating her success at USC and her journey, which by all accounts has been pretty successful.
If those progressives launch a protest, Folt should just cancel the entire graduation ceremony and send the diplomas in the mail.Citing safety, USC bans pro-Palestinian valedictorian from speaking at graduation
The University of Southern California cited safety reasons Monday in keeping its pro-Palestinian valedictorian from speaking onstage at her graduation ceremony.www.latimes.com
If you open up, you’d realize there is a lot of hate going both ways.Too many people on this thread are too openly comfortable with their Islamophobia and anti-brownness.
No, Folt did the right thing.There is no good way out of it now. Guzman and Folt have screwed it up for everyone.
the right thing would have to not selected her in the first place. That choice was utterly moronic.No, Folt did the right thing.
there are few right choices. And the proper choice is to, “not allow a voice which may entice hate and division!”
I say, if this gets further out-of-hand… cancel the entire ceremony - mail the diplomas.
Do you think she just delegated that decision?the right thing would have to not selected her in the first place. That choice was utterly moronic.
i agree. Nothing about race. Just don’t make a controversial selection.the right thing would have to not selected her in the first place. That choice was utterly moronic.
It was Guzman's selection.Do you think she just delegated that decision?
Very true. Folt’s lack of common sense leadership on October 8th was the beginning. Was a McKay donor (past eight years)with one more pledge left and planned on extending. Also C&G Premier, and Marshall Partners. Contacted the development office and told them they will no longer receive another penny from me. Such a shame there is so much hate and evil in this world. Folt needs to go as do the misinformed antisemitic individuals on college campuses across the country!There is no good way out of it now. Guzman and Folt have screwed it up for everyone.
[/QUOTE]btw - A minority female engineer? DEI selection? Not your typical excelling engineer.
She may not be typical but she's definitely not DEI. GPA alone sets her in the upper echelon for the 230+ students who qualified.
She may be a minority but not DEI. Her GPA alone put her in the group of 230+ who qualified.btw - A minority female engineer? DEI selection? Not your typical excelling engineer.
Oh please. I haven’t said anything remotely racist or anti semetic in this thread.There are not a lot of Jews who are anti Zionist. There are some. They generally are Ultra Orthodox who believe that God's plan should not be interfered with by men. (In no way are these folks antisemitic, they are hyper Jewish).
And then there are Jewish Communists who have no interest in the blood that flows through their veins, but their political views are their all important focus.
As for you sir, I have interacted with you for years. I understand your sensitivities to racism, and have honored them. Yet, here you are crossing my lines? Would you be saying any of this if she were KKK?
No, I didn't think so....
Which rhetoric is that?If you open up, you’d realize there is a lot of hate going both ways.
Example, this pro-Gaza stuff… some of the rhetoric is equivalent to,
“defund the police!”
People should think twice before launching a campaign; eliminate the hate and prepare a salient and logical response rather than, “defund the police!!”
retarded!!
“230+”She may not be typical but she's definitely not DEI. GPA alone sets her in the upper echelon for the 230+ students who qualified.