You're right about Hawkins (especially since he was coaching in the Big 12 and I want to think the Big 12 North was the weaker of the two divisions). I don't know if I'd have fired Koetter in '06 as he did have a winning record at Arizona State and took the Sun Devils to four bowl games & Dennis Erickson only went to two bowl games in five years (with his best season in '07, a tie for the conference title with players largely recruited by Koetter).