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Veazy on talk radio late yesterday sez...

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gdogg

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per coaching staff, Relf is quietly becoming the "surprise" (in a good way) of the preseason camp. That means one of two things,
(A). Lee just ain't gonna cut it, Relf is all we got till Russell is ready, start leaking that his preseason was really good so that when he comes up short on the field there is a logical explanation why he was out there in the first place.
(B). He is truely a diamond in the rough who just needed proper coaching. He will impress this season.
Your thoughts?
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gdogg

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per coaching staff, Relf is quietly becoming the "surprise" (in a good way) of the preseason camp. That means one of two things,
(A). Lee just ain't gonna cut it, Relf is all we got till Russell is ready, start leaking that his preseason was really good so that when he comes up short on the field there is a logical explanation why he was out there in the first place.
(B). He is truely a diamond in the rough who just needed proper coaching. He will impress this season.
Your thoughts?
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I watched Relf in the spring go from godawful to something that resembled a quarterback. That was in 4 weeks of not just being coached, but also learning a new system.

So I'm guessing it's B, that he's perhaps becoming someone we can use. I also take it more that they are feeling more comfortable with him as the backup, which gives them the opportunity to redshirt Russell, which I think no one thought we were going to be able to do.
 
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that the coaching he is getting now is light years ahead of what he was getting this time last year.

If true, this is nothing but good news. I think Lee has proven he can be a decent quarterback. Now maybe we will have two decent quarterbacks.
 
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C: Relf is now serviceable with a bit of coaching, and the coaches realize that it doesn't make any sense to play Russell this year. D: Relf still sucks, but they want to say that he had a good camp so that the sheep don't get pissed when Russell gets the redshirt. E: The coaches realize that just about anybody can hand the ball off to AD.
 
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Relf to become a lot better QB, can we expect Lee to be better as well?

I'm hoping so.</p>
 
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and you can redshirt Russell--who eventually meets his lofty expectations down the line in the 2010s--then wouldn't Croom's QB recruiting have improved drastically in retrospect?
 
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An analogy. Relf has D1 level software and peripherals. But his operating system is Commodore 64.

It should be very telling that Mullen is talking up Relf. All it means is that Russell is not ready for prime time.

Redshirt Russell's *** NOW.
 
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definitely has the tools and ability. We've known that a while. If he could just improve some accuracy he'd be golden. I stand in the corner of most and hope that between he and Lee they can do well enough to leave Russell out of the picture in hopes of a redshirt. If they both do bad, I hope they can at least be serviceable through the first half of the season to get him some experience in the 4th quarters
 
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Tito Cheeseburger Jr said:
and you can redshirt Russell--who eventually meets his lofty expectations down the line in the 2010s--then wouldn't Croom's QB recruiting have improved drastically in retrospect?
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Croom recruited exactly one legitimate QB the whole time he was here. Most years he didn't recruit a QB at all. And the best QB he left us with was a walk-on.
 
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Lee was serviceable under Croom. This OL and WRs were not. I'm gonna say right now Lee will be average-to-above-average under Mullen.

Relf will also improve. I'm not sure he'll be as good as Lee between the ears. I see Relf being for us was Tebow was to Florida in his first year to get playing time - a short yardage or change of pace QB. Relf can run the football, run the option, and throw short passes.
 
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Relf is far better suited to Mullen's offense than he is to Croom's. I expected Relf to improve substantially simply based on a scheme that better suits his skills.
 
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C) Mullen's comfort zone is a sizeable dual-threat QB. Relf is that. Lee is not.

I've been barking up this tree for awhile now. Assuming Relf has developed some accuracy, we are going to see him a good bit. I know Mullen has been saying he's going to fit the system to his personnel. But, what do you think is going to make him more comfortable? A gutsy 5'10'' (maybe) kid that can't see over the o-line and is a broken collar bone waiting to happen. Or, a 6'3''/235ish guy that has arm-strength, durability (assumed b/c of frame), and is a running threat.

Mullen's bread and butter offense is having a QB that can throw and run to keep the D honest. That's how his offense succeeds. I'm not saying there are other ways for him to score points. But, if he's going to have his choice, and pick a method that's most comfortable to him, he's going with the dual threat. If Relf has developed some accuracy, he's going to be our QB.
 
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ckDOG said:
C) Mullen's comfort zone is a sizeable dual-threat QB. Relf is that. Lee is not.

I've been barking up this tree for awhile now. Assuming Relf has developed some accuracy, we are going to see him a good bit. I know Mullen has been saying he's going to fit the system to his personnel. But, what do you think is going to make him more comfortable? A gutsy 5'10'' (maybe) kid that can't see over the o-line and is a broken collar bone waiting to happen. Or, a 6'3''/235ish guy that has arm-strength, durability (assumed b/c of frame), and is a running threat.

Mullen's bread and butter offense is having a QB that can throw and run to keep the D honest. That's how his offense succeeds. I'm not saying there are other ways for him to score points. But, if he's going to have his choice, and pick a method that's most comfortable to him, he's going with the dual threat. If Relf has developed some accuracy, he's going to be our QB.
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saved me the trouble of typing out the exact same thing. Relf fits Mullen's system better. If he can get some accuracy he's going to play a whole lot.
 
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I think it obvious what is lining up. Lee/Relf will be to State 09 as Leak/Tebow was to UF 06. In order to run that spread option, we will need the QB to run the zone-read option. Relf has the size and speed to handle that.

The shotgun will benefit Lee as well.
 
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We haven't seen a good quarterback play in a bulldog uniform for so long that he looks like Joe Montana out there
 
Guy From Gulfport

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Could Relf talk be misinformation to the point of Sate's Polish Rifle 2.0? Bernard Euell ran the wishbone that week after that pub hit the Ledger, didn't he?
 
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The Polish rifle never played in the spring game or was ever #2 on the depth chart.

Yeah, I believe Euell took a few snaps from center. However, my man, Todd Jordan hobbled out on the field with a huge boot and played a good portion of the game out of the shotgun. For others reading......vs. Bama in Tuscaloosa 93.
 
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Does Relf really have much speed? I've never watched him in practices, so all I'm going off of is what I've heard and seen in the few games he's played. But I thought he really wasn't as much of a running threat (at least speed wise) as we make him out to be.</p>

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From what I've seen, he looks to have a pretty strong arm... at least compared to some of the wet noodles we've had lately. I can't say much about the accuracy since he's only thrown about 10 passes in actual games - and those were as a freshman working behind the worst o-line in the SEC. But my feelings after watching him the little bit we've been able to: he can't be any worse than what we've had the last 5 years.</p>
 
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I remember thinking last year that Lee was actually more of a threat to run than Relf would be. Lee isn't fast, but he is quick. He should've been sacked about 200 more times than he was last year. Relf always looks like he's in slow motion.
 
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I don't think he's a speed demon by any means. I believe he was a 4.8 out of HS. Tyson Lee might be half a step quicker for all I know. But, who would you rather run an option or a keeper? I think Tyson looks mobile mainly because he's good at dodging 300+ lineman in the backfield. I wouldn't want the little guy running anything by design however. He won't be respected in that regard.
 
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