Vikings fire coach for refusing COVID vax.

[fishwater99]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...sistant-refusing-covid-19-vaccine-sources-say



"The vaccine is required for all Tier 1 staff, including coaches, front-office executives, equipment managers and scouts. Players are not required to receive the COVID-19 vaccine but will face strict protocols during training camp and throughout the season that vaccinated players will be able to forgo."

 

[WilCoDawg]

Seems like a lawsuit to me. Requiring someone with the only option to take an yet-approved vaccine would be illegal, especially if players aren’t required to take it. I’m not surprised by it though.

 

[Len2003]

It's long been established legally that schools and businesses can require vaccination as a condition of attendance/employment.

 

[WilCoDawg]

Even when they’re not FDA approved? Given the amount of lawsuits against asbestos and weed killers, me thinks this would make a widow very rich.

 

[mstateglfr]

Seems like a lawsuit to me. Requiring someone with the only option to take an yet-approved vaccine would be illegal, especially if players aren’t required to take it. I’m not surprised by it though.

Anything can be a lawsuit when it comes to employment. Doesnt mean its a good case to pursue.

 

[FQDawg]

Even when they’re not FDA approved?

I keep seeing this as some sort of a "gotcha" talking point but it's wrong. The FDA approved the vaccines for emergency use. That's why we have them available. If they hadn't been approved at all, they wouldn't have been distributed.

And, yes, the worldwide covid pandemic qualifies as an emergency.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

Even when they’re not FDA approved? Given the amount of lawsuits against asbestos and weed killers, me thinks this would make a widow very rich.

All the vaccines used in the U.S. have emergency use authorization from the F.D.A. and have since January. But, a lawsuit will be filed and we'll see how the court rules. Will be an interesting ruling, you know, with this being like a major world-wide pandemic and the NFL being the NFL doing what it can to protect its brand.

Maybe McMahon and Trump can start a new Anti-vax football league. I'd buy tickets.

 

[dorndawg]

I keep seeing this as some sort of a "gotcha" talking point but it's wrong. The FDA approved the vaccines for emergency use. That's why we have them available. If they hadn't been approved at all, they wouldn't have been distributed.

And, yes, the worldwide covid pandemic qualifies as an emergency.

It's funny listening to boogereaters spout off that FDA line as if a) government approval means anything to them b) they have any idea what's in the Dollar General vienna sausage they inhaled for lunch.

 

[Go Budaw]

Even when they’re not FDA approved? Given the amount of lawsuits against asbestos and weed killers, me thinks this would make a widow very rich.

You realize that every health care professional (Dr’s and nurses) have been required as a condition of their employment to get the vaccine for like 6 months, right?

 

[ckDOG]

Weird. Aren't they aware the virus ended November 4th?

Right, fish?

 

[PapaDawg]

In the Houston, TX area Methodist Hospital Systems fired employees who refused to take the vaccine. The former employees sued and the lawsuit was dismissed due to an employer’s ability to require vaccinations for employees.

 

[Go Budaw]

It's funny listening to boogereaters spout off that FDA line as if a) government approval means anything to them b) they have any idea what's in the Dollar General vienna sausage they inhaled for lunch.

I hope Nikhazy isn’t still slumming it at the DG after getting that signing bonus.

 

[dorndawg]

I hope Nikhazy isn’t still slumming it at the DG after getting that signing bonus.

Upgraded:

 

[WilCoDawg]

There’s no “gotcha”. It’s not “approved”. It has “emergency use authorization”. I’m not sure why this is so hard for y’all to understand. Even us “boogereaters” get that. The fact that you and every other “you’re a booger eater if you don’t take the vax” dick don’t get is there are some people who don’t feel comfortable taking a vaccine that lacks long term studies. I’m not sure why that’s so hard to understand. Given the track record of the FDA approving drugs that even had that approval…*cough* vioxx *cough* phen fen…it should be expected that there are people hesitant to do so. I know a lot of them. I promise they’re much more educated than you. So keep looking down you nose and calling us “boogereaters” and “antivaxers” (which is completely false), it should remain people’s choice. It doesn’t harm you. Take the vaccine. By all means. I won’t judge you. But you should also keep wearing masks as well, because if the unvaxed are deadly to others, the vaxed are too since they can spread it just as well.

 

[WilCoDawg]

I bet you chuckled all over your Doritos typing out “boogereaters”. You may need to tell your mom to get you some more. Never mind. I’ll do that later tonight.

 

[WilCoDawg]

Sorry. I thought we were talking about the NFL, not a hospital.

ETA: the team gave waivers to players, but not coaches. Does no one see a problem here? I guess the coaches need a better union representation.

 

[johnson86-1]

Even when they’re not FDA approved? Given the amount of lawsuits against asbestos and weed killers, me thinks this would make a widow very rich.

Not everything bad is illegal (or tortious) and not everything legal is good.

COVID is not really a disease that people should be mandating vaccines for, but it is not a legal problem for employers that do so (unless there is a state specific law).

 

[ckDOG]

Coaches and staff ask their players to press physical limits.

Sorry. I thought we were talking about the NFL, not a hospital.

ETA: the team gave waivers to players, but not coaches. Does no one see a problem here? I guess the coaches need a better union representation.

That likely includes the consumption of Lord knows how many non-FDA-approved substances (since that's important to you) and asking them to bash their heads into the equivalent of a brick wall a dozen or more times a game.

The staff can take the Fauci ouchi.

 

[dorndawg]

I bet you chuckled all over your Doritos typing out “boogereaters”. You may need to tell your mom to get you some more. Never mind. I’ll do that later tonight.

 

[WilCoDawg]

Call me back when a player is forced to consume something against their will. Sounds like hazing, but what do I know?

 

[ababyatemydingo]

You realize that every health care professional (Dr’s and nurses) have been required as a condition of their employment to get the vaccine for like 6 months, right?

You might want to check your facts, hoss. I'm friends with many physicians, and have many more as clients. I can tell you the VAST majority of those haven't taken it and will not be taking it. Due to the way it was engineered, and what it was engineered to do. Simpleton sheep won't ever understand that, though.

 

[DAWG61]

I'm not wearing a mask anymore, I did that for a year and then got my shots. Anyone without a vaxx wanting me to wear a mask can get bent and move to West Canada.

 

[ckDOG]

Dennison didn't get the shot.

Call me back when a player is forced to consume something against their will. Sounds like hazing, but what do I know?

Rights preserved. Nobody forced him to do anything he did not want to. Players don't have to keep up with their peers, or can chose to hit at 50% so they don't get CTE. They'll likely lose their job like he lost his. Actions/inactions/consequences. Such is life.

 

[ckDOG]

My chiro is scared of it too.

You might want to check your facts, hoss. I'm friends with many physicians, and have many more as clients. I can tell you the VAST majority of those haven't taken it and will not be taking it. Due to the way it was engineered, and what it was engineered to do. Simpleton sheep won't ever understand that, though.

It's okay with me though. That crack is worth it...

 

[WilCoDawg]

If you think that argument is apples to apples, it’s no wonder your crying about people not getting the vaccine, players aren’t threatened with firing if they don’t ingest items against them heir will.

 

[dorndawg]

You might want to check your facts, hoss. I'm friends with many physicians, and have many more as clients. I can tell you the VAST majority of those haven't taken it and will not be taking it. Due to the way it was engineered, and what it was engineered to do. Simpleton sheep won't ever understand that, though.

 

[Nunya.sixpack]

The team should also sue the vaccine manufacturer when a player tests positive.

 

[johnson86-1]

You realize that every health care professional (Dr’s and nurses) have been required as a condition of their employment to get the vaccine for like 6 months, right?

This is incorrect. My impression was that it's still the exception (hence the Houston case making headlines), but maybe that's just the first one to get resolved. But regardless, lots of doctors and nurses do not have to get the vaccine to work. I'm sure a lot of hospitals are hesitant to mandate the vaccine when they are already dealing with nursing shortages and half their nurses are not vaccinated.

 

[ababyatemydingo]

I wouldn't expect any less from you.

 

[ckDOG]

I don't want you to get the shot if you don't want it

If you think that argument is apples to apples, it’s no wonder your crying about people not getting the vaccine, players aren’t threatened with firing if they don’t ingest items against them heir will.

I'd be curious as to why, but ultimately it's your decision if you want to put something in your body or not. I also believe the Vikings have a right to protect their investment and if they feel that unvaccinated personnel are going to put their wins/losses/attendance at risk then they should be able to out conditions of employment they feel will help achieve their goals. Dennison has no right to be employed by them and to tell them how to measure success.

 

[mstateglfr]

Take the vaccine. By all means. I won’t judge you. But you should also keep wearing masks as well, because if the unvaxed are deadly to others, the vaxed are too since they can spread it just as well.

Can vaccinated people spread it 'just as well'? Or can they spread it less well?

 

[bsquared24]

You might want to check your facts, hoss. I'm friends with many physicians, and have many more as clients. I can tell you the VAST majority of those haven't taken it and will not be taking it. Due to the way it was engineered, and what it was engineered to do. Simpleton sheep won't ever understand that, though.

I don't know if its a VAST majority, but I dang sure know it isn't required at the hospitals around me for employment so please stop spreading the lie that it is required. The point of many who don't want a COVID vaccine is they want to be shown the 3 year data, the 5 year data of something injected into your body that changes your RNA. This isn't MMR, DtP, or other vaccines that have years of study. To top that 1/3 of the vaccines given, those by Moderna, are by a company that has NEVER had a vaccine approved by the FDA. You have to start somewhere, but you don't have to start with the biggest pharmacuetical experiment in history. There is a reason why the government gave the Pharma companies immunity from lawsuits on COVID vaccines, because it's risky.

I'm fine if you want to get the vaccine, why can't you be fine if I don't want to get it?

 

[MagnificentBastard]

You realize that every health care professional (Dr’s and nurses) have been required as a condition of their employment to get the vaccine for like 6 months, right?

Yeah that's not true. UMMC is not requiring it as a condition of employment until it is fully approved by the FDA. The largest hospital in Mississippi understands the difference between fully approved and emergency use authorization.

Full Disclosure: I got my vax as soon as I was eligible and encourage every one to do the same. It is misinformation that has put us where we are today and neither side should use it.

 

[Irondawg]

This is going to be an interesting case. I will say that I know some nurses and other health care workers that have not gotten the shot and have no plans to for whatever reason so it’s not required, at least here in Jackson/Madison.

Side note my grandmother in law is in a assisted living home. 100% vaccinated and now they have an outbreak of positive cases.

Half their workers have quit in the past week because they don’t feel safe. I’ve not heard of anything like that before.

 

[fishwater99]

Add another from the Pats..

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/07...ly-no-longer-part-of-patriots-coaching-staff/

 

[Smoked Toag]

You might want to check your facts, hoss. I'm friends with many physicians, and have many more as clients. I can tell you the VAST majority of those haven't taken it and will not be taking it. Due to the way it was engineered, and what it was engineered to do. Simpleton sheep won't ever understand that, though.

Gonna go ahead and call BS there.

And as far as what the vaxx was engineered to do......that should not spark fear in anyone. It's harmless (except against viruses with spike proteins).

 

[Go Budaw]

Sorry. I thought we were talking about the NFL, not a hospital.

ETA: the team gave waivers to players, but not coaches. Does no one see a problem here? I guess the coaches need a better union representation.

There is no legal distinction between an NFL non-union employee and a health care non-union employee in regards to whether or not you can force them to take the vaccine as a condition of their employment.

Regarding the policy of the players, surely you know there is a players union? And all the COVID testing protocols within the league for players had to be approved through the union. What was collectively approved between the NFLPA and the owners was more stringent testing for those who didn’t get vaccinated, less testing or zero testing for those that get the shot.

 

[fishwater99]

Right, fish?

And VP Harris didn't trust the Trump vaccine.

A bigger question is what did Fauci cover up?

Get the vaccination folx, but no more masks.