I for one love it. He can't manage a roster or a budget, he will F them. Fingers crossed it means Stoops is on his way out after this year, and we should back the Brinks truck up to Will Steins house.
Vince Morrow to U of L
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Should have been done at the end of last year and everyone with half a brain knows it.
It certainly has diminished a bit with the advent of the portal. His strength was in hs recruiting which matters less than it ever did.
Gigantic middle finger to UK IMO. It is also pretty clear that Marrow at least, thinks Stoops is done at UK
So much for that Youngstown loyalty, huh?
Contrary to a couple of sunshine pumpers on here I think most people understand what it going to happen with Stoops. I just hope he has the decency to step down instead of bankrupting the program.
I can't say I really care that much about the old dog. Marrow said he wanted to stay in the state and the only way that is going to happen is to make this move.
Contrary to a couple of sunshine pumpers on here I think most people understand what it going to happen with Stoops. I just hope he has the decency to step down instead of bankrupting the program.
I can't say I really care that much about the old dog. Marrow said he wanted to stay in the state and the only way that is going to happen is to make this move.
I disagree. But, here’s why…I don’t think Stoops is a good HC. He’s good with things off the field, like roster building. And, he used to be much better with player development & the bureaucratic stuff. Not so much lately.
But, he’s honestly one of the worst in-game coaches I’ve ever seen, in any sport. His teams are highly undisciplined & unprepared. He coaches with a massive yellow streak running down his back & he’s never met a clock that he could manage. Absolutely terrible in pressure situations. He can’t identify good offensive coaches & he micro-manages them when he does. He can’t develop QBs or any semblance of a passing game, outside of Levis.
Yet, he was able to be average in the SEC with a cpl of really good seasons. So, my rationale is that if HE can make us competitive in the SEC, then I have little doubt that any number of other coaches could also. Especially, with the transfer portal & NIL. Hell, if Stoops would’ve embraced the offensive side & had capitalized on the 10 win seasons & developed a solid passing attack after 2018 or even 2021, I think the program could’ve taken the next step up to a consistent top 15-20 program.
But, he didn’t have the sack for that. He prefers the safest, most basic offensive playbooks that would give the impression that they were written in crayon. And, even the defensive philosophy is built on being ultra conservative & taking no chances.
I just think that if a coach like that could build annual top 25-30 rosters at UK then we shouldn’t abandon hope that anybody else can. Out of 13 seasons on the job, Stoops has had TWO that were better than average. And, since 2017 or so, he’s had good enough rosters to compete with most anyone. What are we clinging to?
Yea. Reading his Tweets, you needed a translator from all the bad grammar and broken English. He belongs with that group of uneducated people.
If he got the GM job like TV is stating, then why wouldn't you go? You are more like an AD than anything else. It is a way to transition over to the total Admin. If he does well look for him to be talked about as an AD for Akron or someone like that.
Can we or do we lost any TE over the loss of VM? We will wait and see.
Can we or do we lost any TE over the loss of VM? We will wait and see.
Loved the guy, but he’s dead to me for the time being. I understand he has to take care of himself and his family. But it is a huge slap in the face to BBN.
This also looks like we are about to watch Stoops’ 12 game funeral procession. I see 3-9 as our ceiling.
This also looks like we are about to watch Stoops’ 12 game funeral procession. I see 3-9 as our ceiling.
Well, Vince told the QB Club a couple of years back that upon retirement, he was going to ride his Harley to all Kentucky counties to thank the people for the opportunity he had been provided at UK.
And he can still take that ride . . . in ONE Kentucky County . . . where maybe 40% of the people give a Rat’s ***.
And he can still take that ride . . . in ONE Kentucky County . . . where maybe 40% of the people give a Rat’s ***.
Stoops isn't going anywhere voluntarily.
And Mitch isn't about to cough up the $40M to buy him out of that ridiculous contract.
And I don't know of a single booster that would pay that big of a buyout to watch Stoops waddle off into the sunset.
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I agree on his coaching 100%. I just don’t see us being able to hire a guy ho could make this program what we all want when there are 20 other schools who will outspend us every year now. We would have to find that coach hidden away and then keep him. Then have a great staff and try to put the most resources into FB we could and I don’t think that’s enough to be top 15 these days. I also believe it it past time for a HC change. Just saying I don’t know if we can ever get anyone to get us where we as fans want to be.
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That is why you have to hire a competent coach who bleeds BLUE.....
Ray Charles can see who that is......
Per KSR- By creating a general manager position, they were able to finesse buyout language in his contract at Kentucky, opening the door for the move to finally become a reality.
I would think a GM is not a coaching position so there probably is little to no buyout. Just my guess.
we will just how good he is... I always thought he was given WAY too much love here.. but hey, i guess it was only me
Finally! Glad they finally got the details worked out.
He's been the worst position coach on staff his entire tenure.
His mouth writes checks he can't cash.
Glad he's gone just sad Stoops is still here.
He's been the worst position coach on staff his entire tenure.
His mouth writes checks he can't cash.
Glad he's gone just sad Stoops is still here.
Yes, they did that to not have to pay a buyout to UK. Mitch and his contract skills are unmatched.
Most likely he and CMS fought for a bump and extension and MB said “nah big dog let’s play this year out and see”
Kudos for drawing a line in the sand. 5 wins and no TE production, lack luster recruiting…good luck, appreciate the good times and effort.
No hard feelings its business.
Kudos for drawing a line in the sand. 5 wins and no TE production, lack luster recruiting…good luck, appreciate the good times and effort.
No hard feelings its business.
I guarantee there are 10 college assistants and recruiters out there that crush Marrow. He is very good recruiting the state of Ohio, outside that what else big name players across the country did he bring in that we couldn’t have gotten with another recruiter or staff? It feels like since 2020 the entire staff has been in flux and it starts with Stoops. This just shows how bad things have gotten to lose a guy we have consistently overpaid to stay here because he’s so valuable. All I saw was a guy who was at fancy steakhouses all the time and no improvement on the field. Maybe he mailed it in. He was very good most of his tenure I will give him that, but we are trending toward a sinking ship.
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Yeah much worse. Pitino was looking for anyway to get back in the sport itself so the UL job was all most too good to pass up at the time. And he thought people in Kentucky would actually appreciate that he was happy to get back in the state which was silly but he thought it.
No different than the rest of the coaching staff and the head man making his 9 million!
On the contrary ... if you want to see this program succeed long-term, things are better today than yesterday.
No question he got all the love more than anyone else for a long time but nothing really matters but the present mood so he long forgot about all that.
Good luck to him. I'm interested to see what the responsibilities of his new position entail.
Sort of figured he would've gone to one of the Michigan schools before now, but if he owns homes and side businesses in Kentucky this makes even more sense.
Okay....onward it is.
Sort of figured he would've gone to one of the Michigan schools before now, but if he owns homes and side businesses in Kentucky this makes even more sense.
Okay....onward it is.
Maybe Marrow's recruiting efforts have fallen off because he has nothing to sell to recruits, with Stoops failing so badly.
I hope to hell he talks Brohm into spending all the recruiting resources and effort in the mythological Shangri-la of talent that is Ohio…allegedly…
I hope we get someone who wants to mix it up a bit a maybe spend more time, effort, money in Florida and Texas.
I hope we get someone who wants to mix it up a bit a maybe spend more time, effort, money in Florida and Texas.
I'm not so sure the money will be there to buy Stoops out after this year. Athletic departments everywhere are getting creative trying to find ways to balance the budget. They're losing 20 mil to the athletes going forward. The only way we can afford to buy him out is with donor money and they are paying more now than they ever have. I really hope this is Stoops last year but my gut tells me it won't be.
Also Stoops isn't negotiating his money down.
Also Stoops isn't negotiating his money down.
We thought the same about Cal. Although Stoops lacks Cal's ego, I don't see him riding this program into the dumpster (more than he has already). If win 3-4 games this season, as many are predicting, I see him leaving on his own accord.
All time, he's not even average in the SEC.
28-62 career SEC record. He's been .500 or better 4 times (3 officially since we vacated a season) in 12 seasons.
nobody should be getting raises on this staff but it’s difficult to think Barnhart was just drawing lines after giving Wolford a raise and that guy has shown very little in his seasons here or in the last handful of years of his career in general.
There is zero way he’s leaving without his money. I think the most he would give in is that he would take it over a few years instead of the lump sum Mitch put in there.