I will ring this bell again…13 of his career conference wins are against 3 specific coaches….muschamp, Odom, and mason. All of which are long gone.
Vince Morrow to U of L
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I think the fact you have noting to sell anymore is also a big reason why recruiting is down. When Vince and Stoops first got here, the could recruit on the premise of turning the program around. Then when UK had some success, they could recruit on the fact they turned the program around. Now, what do you recruit on?
I realize NIL is also a big part of recruiting, but there is no dream to sell to potential recruits anymore.
Marrow isn’t a factor in our play on the field in that he costs us games. Recruiting will take a hit. Stoops will have a hard time replacing that especially being on the hot seat. But it’s not like him leaving is going to cost us wins and losses.
We could abolish the position of HC and let the GM position be our top position. Take a page from UL. If there's no longer a HC position, would we still be on the hook for the contract?
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Vince Marrow
Vincent Charles Marrow (born August 17, 1968) is an American football coach and former professional tight end. He is the General Manager for The University of Pvssies.[2]
Vince Marrow
Vincent Charles Marrow (born August 17, 1968) is an American football coach and former professional tight end. He is the General Manager for The University of Pvssies.[2]
Yes. That and just the inability for years to show offensively they could put much of anything together consistently enough to attract skilled players.
It's a dck move doing this so late in the year, so he clearly worked with UL to make this the most difficult change possible for UK. That being said, he's got no business being on the field anyway. Def not his strong suit.
We have under-utilized EVERY talented tight end we've had here. How many 4 star TEs did we land only to have them not get touches? That was HIS position and we sucked at utilizing and developing them. How many were drafted?
Where did we succeed? RB. Who recruited those successful RBs to UK? Was it Marrow? Thought it was always Gran that got them here. Maybe someone knows for sure.
Had no idea how bad the split must've been with Marrow and Stoops, but I'm gonna guess that the A&M stuff was the real breaking point. Stoops talking about it, but clearly Marrow (and others) didn't want to go to A&M. I bet that's when the talks with UL got serious.
I never thought the Marrow to UL as a coach talk was serious. I was right about the coach part. Man was I wrong though about even the possibility. Sometimes it's easy to underestimate the whoredom of college football coaching. That's ironically what ultimately led to the transfer portal that many hate.
It's a good move for Vince, so I understand why he took it. If you're gonna be a *****, why not for the most money with the least stress?
I wonder if Stoops saw this coming when the A&M talk was ongoing? Lol. Given our consistent inability to see how to manage clock at the end of the 2nd quarter, I doubt it. This could be a great thing, or a bad thing, but it also could be BOTH.
We have under-utilized EVERY talented tight end we've had here. How many 4 star TEs did we land only to have them not get touches? That was HIS position and we sucked at utilizing and developing them. How many were drafted?
Where did we succeed? RB. Who recruited those successful RBs to UK? Was it Marrow? Thought it was always Gran that got them here. Maybe someone knows for sure.
Had no idea how bad the split must've been with Marrow and Stoops, but I'm gonna guess that the A&M stuff was the real breaking point. Stoops talking about it, but clearly Marrow (and others) didn't want to go to A&M. I bet that's when the talks with UL got serious.
I never thought the Marrow to UL as a coach talk was serious. I was right about the coach part. Man was I wrong though about even the possibility. Sometimes it's easy to underestimate the whoredom of college football coaching. That's ironically what ultimately led to the transfer portal that many hate.
It's a good move for Vince, so I understand why he took it. If you're gonna be a *****, why not for the most money with the least stress?
I wonder if Stoops saw this coming when the A&M talk was ongoing? Lol. Given our consistent inability to see how to manage clock at the end of the 2nd quarter, I doubt it. This could be a great thing, or a bad thing, but it also could be BOTH.
I also, however, do not EVER see Jon Sumrall accepting the job here. I don't think it will work out in terms of timing and situation. He's got a great gig at Tulane. He's got everything he needs. Unless it's Bama, LSU, or a Georgia type job, there's no reason to take this job at a thoroughly basketball first school.
Very few UK fans understand and support football compared to other programs with rich traditions and histories. It's not got the kind of backing needed to be an SEC Champion. It's not going to be able to compete in revenue because of the additional support it gives to other sports, while basketball can do whatever it wants with its money.
May have to find a really decent NFL coach that wants to give college football a try to be successful. That's about the only route that makes sense. Still don't see UK getting over the hump though.
Very few UK fans understand and support football compared to other programs with rich traditions and histories. It's not got the kind of backing needed to be an SEC Champion. It's not going to be able to compete in revenue because of the additional support it gives to other sports, while basketball can do whatever it wants with its money.
May have to find a really decent NFL coach that wants to give college football a try to be successful. That's about the only route that makes sense. Still don't see UK getting over the hump though.
Another reason why teams like UL and UK HAVE to hire only coaches who have a special attachment to the team and the fanbase.
I can’t be bothered to care. What exactly has Vince provided for the last handful of years? I don’t mean “Oh, he’s a dawg on the recruiting trail!!!” either, because he hasn’t been for quite a while. He can’t coach positions and his claim to fame (getting decent recruits to buy in back in the day) has been largely negated by NIL. Dude has been nothing more than YET ANOTHER buddy of Stoops coasting by on his friendship and making good money in the process.
Don’t care. Season was a wash before this news, season remains a wash now. Program was in the toilet before this news, program remains in the toilet now.
Get rid of Stoops and pray to the football heavens that someone more capable of handling this new NIL age comes in. Nothing short of that will make more than a win or two difference.
Don’t care. Season was a wash before this news, season remains a wash now. Program was in the toilet before this news, program remains in the toilet now.
Get rid of Stoops and pray to the football heavens that someone more capable of handling this new NIL age comes in. Nothing short of that will make more than a win or two difference.
My question is why were we trying to hang on to him if he really wanted to leave.
Screw that. UK, MB and Stoops look desperate if that is the truth. Middle school girlfriend break-up stuff.
Please hire some dam adults to run our Football program AND the Athletic Department.
Disagree with some of this. I think Stoops is gone after this year and has told Mitch so. He will take a smaller buyout and leave on a good note.
I have zero ill will towards Vince. Stoops sucks and is on the hot seat. Louisville is a hot program and Brohm has job security. He's friends with Brohm. If I'm considering my own job security, I'd probably do the same.
Why would any rational person hitch their wagon to Mark Stoops?
Stoops is gone after this season. Sumrall gets a call. And we can finally turn the page. The worst part of the Stoops saga is it feels like it's gone on about 3 years too long (when all is said and done).
Why would any rational person hitch their wagon to Mark Stoops?
Stoops is gone after this season. Sumrall gets a call. And we can finally turn the page. The worst part of the Stoops saga is it feels like it's gone on about 3 years too long (when all is said and done).
Probably already posted, but Marrow leaving is 10000& on Barnhart. He could have matched monies. What really pisses me off, Vince going to our most hated rival. Which he knew, only to redirect recruits from UK, but then again, how did his recruits perform?
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There needs to be a complete housecleaning. No need to be throwing more money on a dead horse.
The 2025 class was ranked #24 nationally one of the highest ranked classes in the Stoops era, and the portal class was ranked #8 nationally. It's whistling past the graveyard to pretend this guy wasn't an elite recruiter with names like Lynn Bowden, Benny Snell, Wan’Dale Robinson, and Darian Kinnard many more. These guys wouldn't have given UK a sniff in the past.
Marrow's departure IMO represents the end of an era, it's unfortunate but trying to say "nothing to see here" won't fly.
I tend to agree, since what did he bring to the table to help the program Tight ends were lost in Stoops offense
We were headed toward a 4 win season at best with or without him. His departure changes nothing on that. We could have limped to 4 wins either way. We always point to his rankings like the results on the field bare them out, yet they don’t. Him leaving doesn’t cost a single game this year and every year thereafter with Stoops at the helm is already laid to waste anyway, again with or without him. The problem begins and ends with Stoops. He’s the $9 million man bringing $9 results.
Doesn’t make sense. No one smiling at this. Closest I’ve seen is comments like mine stating Vince hasn’t done anything worthwhile in a few years.
Someone said Vince leaving won’t cost us games on the field this season. I agree. But his body of work will. Just as it did the last two.
Clueless. This post sums up a lot of Kentucky football fans. Just clueless. Most of yall think a football is just an under inflated basketball
Are we limping toward 4 wins or is 4 the absolute max? You kinda contradict yourself there.
Though based on the rest of your post it seems you just want Stoops gone no matter what.
Like with everything else, Mitch is 10 years behind again.
Very true. Mitch got an absolute blessing that Arkansas hired cal. Maybe ferentz will finally retire and lets him out of this contract.
Leaving is one thing. But going to the "Dirty Birds" is like a slap in the face!
Whatever good will he had, is long gone now.
Whatever good will he had, is long gone now.