Warren Nolan has our RPI up to 12

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Well they are 9-8 in conference with 7 of the 9 wins coming against three teams that have combined for 16 conference wins so far. If that's not top 10 material I don't know what is.**
 

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Come on man! Why? Now OleMiss Logo is going to have to come over here and respond to this with a 2,000 word heap of ********. It's going to suck.
 

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The Bears are 1-5 against ranked SEC teams.....

Well they are 9-8 in conference with 7 of the 9 wins coming against three teams that have combined for 16 conference wins so far. If that's not top 10 material I don't know what is.**

They have two more series left against LSU and TAM plus UK. We I'll see what kind of girados they have.
 

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If you look at it

honestly, the only conclusion is the ****** mid-week teams they've played are not quite as terrible as the ****** mid-week teams we've played.
 

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Probably because we have almost twice as many home losses as they do. But I agree, it's ridiculous they should be that much higher ranked than we are. We have both a better record and more games played against the top 25, top 50 and top 100 than they do.
 

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So essentially us

losing to A&M...that is absurd.

ETA: The biggest discrepancy is from teams ranked 51-200. They are 15-1 and we are 7-2-1. To me, our record vs top 25 should completely negate ANY of that (2 games that we are basically talking about), but that doesn't seem to be the case.
 
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For the life of me, I'll never understand how OM's is at 6...

It's the nonconference.

Nonconference RPI (SOS)
Ole Miss - 2 (33)
MSU - 75 (174)


ETA: Also the Home/Away discrepancy.

Adjusted record:
Ole Miss - 26.7-10
MSU - 23.7-13.8

We each lose 3.3 wins, but State gains almost 2 losses while we stay even.
 
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We need to pull out all the stops, pitching wise, Tuesday. Bama is a weaker hitting team. We should be ok there. Very important game because if it comes down to us and Ole Miss for a spot, we need to have the 3-1 head to head. They will have the RPI lead...almost guaranteed.
 

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We need to pull out all the stops, pitching wise, Tuesday. Bama is a weaker hitting team. We should be ok there. Very important game because if it comes down to us and Ole Miss for a spot, we need to have the 3-1 head to head. They will have the RPI lead...almost guaranteed.

We start the bama series on Thursday. No way would I sacrifice our weekend pitching for the om game. Take care of business down the stretch and we have a shot at the west title... That will be a much bigger trump card than a 3-1 record vs om
 

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They got swept at home vs. South Carolina too, so that's even with our losses to A&M. The real difference is our 2 bad mid-week losses early in the season.
 

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ETA: The biggest discrepancy is from teams ranked 51-200. They are 15-1 and we are 7-2-1.
This gets back to what I've been saying for a while now. Bianco is much smarter at scheduling for maximum RPI benefit than Cohen is. 51-150/200 is where your bread and butter is RPI-wise, and Bianco is loading up on those games.
 

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It's not an either/or situation. Guys who go a couple of innings on Tuesday will be fine for the Bama series. Even the Tuesday starter should be avaible for a couple of innings on Saturday, assuming he only goes a few innings. UM is the better team and the higher ranked team. Just because it's not a conference game doesn't mean it isn't as big as the Bama games are.
 

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aGAIN, it goes

back to what I said, y'all played less ****** teams than our ****** teams (barely). However, I would think our (away) record vs top 10 teams should trump that (easily) tenfold, and it doesn't. It's perplexing. Yalls only conference series wins include 3 out of the 4 worst teams in the league...not very impressive.
 

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back to what I said, y'all played less ****** teams than our ****** teams (barely). However, I would think our (away) record vs top 10 teams should trump that (easily) tenfold, and it doesn't. It's perplexing. Yalls only conference series wins include 3 out of the 4 worst teams in the league...not very impressive.

Because RPI doesn't include WHO you BEAT. It only considers who you PLAY and what your record is.

If y'all swept A&M but replaced those 3 losses with losses to SDSU (2x) and another to Ole Miss, your RPI would be the same.

You're confusing committee criteria (Record vs Top 25, bad losses, etc) with the RPI formula.

And a nonconference SOS of 33 vs 174 is not (barely) playing less ****** teams. That's a huge discrepancy.
 
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Well said. We will take care of your REAL rival today, ya'll can schedule the New York Yankees, and by mid week ya'll can be ranked above us as God intended---Hobby Lobby!
 

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Our SOS is 6??

My point is, are schedules, when looking at the ****** teams, aren't much different, and when you include the top teams, ours is supperior. Throw in the fact that yalls conference schedule has been a joke, and we beat yalls ***, it's sort of perplexing.

However, we're the better team, clearly, so it'll all work out.
 

KurtRambis4

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I understand it fine.

If you could comprehend, you could understand my beef.

A team that State smoked, and that has played a **** conference and non-conference schedule, is ranked 6th, but continue with your thinly-veiled posts on how State really isn't that good.

I am of the opinion that State's conference schedule should outweigh OM's non-conference schedule, and it doesn't.

You're killing that posts-per-day average on here.
 

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That series win over mighty Auburn has him resold him on how great his Rebs are. Only an ultimate homer and anunabashed retard (looking at you idiot with the baseball website) would try to argue that OM is better than State this year.
 
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I haven't once argued Ole Miss is better than State this year. In fact, I predicted State would win the series 2-1.
 

KurtRambis4

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Come on dude.

No **** it isn't. A little deductive reasoning could tell you what I'm talking about. Is that all you've got?

But hey, yalls schedule is killer!**

/killing that posts-per-day avg
 

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So what exactly do

you call coming on here (State board), crying every instance where a State fans suggests that it's a joke that OM's RPI is higher than State's, when we have a vast number more of quality wins?
 

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I call it discussing baseball. And actually knowing what I'm talking about and what RPI is whether than just bitching because a rival is rated higher.
 

KurtRambis4

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I call it

being a jackass.

So let me get this straight, if I suggest it's a joke that OM's RPI is higher than ours, it's bitching, but if you suggest otherwise, it's "discussing baseball?"

I don't know how many times I have to say, but I fully understand what RPI is. That doesn't mean I can't think it's a joke that y'all are higher than us, with essentially the same schedule OOC, and not nearly the same conference schedule...you know, "discussing baseball."

aGAIN, I get why you're so high on it. It's the only measurement in which you can claim that you're team is better than your rival. That's why you're over here defending the rebels, every time it's suggested that y'all suck.

Hell, maybe y'all can display an RPI banner this year. It'll look swell at Pat Swayze.
 
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Yes it is bitching when crying about Ole Miss' RPI because the formula is what it is.

You obviously don't understand what it is if you don't understand why ours is where it is and why yalls is where it is. Because it isn't some ambiguous, subjective rating. It's a simple, easily understandable formula, and I've pointed out the differences.

And again for you, the OOC schedule is not essentially the same. It isn't even close. NCSOS of 33 vs 174 is not "essentially the same."

You keep implying that either Ole Miss or State's (or both) ratings are incorrect (or a "joke") which just shows that you don't understand it.